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returntothepit >> discuss >> Joe, stop booking shows when I'm booking one by armageddonday on Aug 3,2004 2:07pm
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toggletoggle post by armageddonday   at Aug 3,2004 2:07pm
...or less no blueberry pie.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Aug 3,2004 2:28pm
I might stop booking shows in general.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 3,2004 2:32pm
it's been brought.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Aug 3,2004 2:34pm
someone cancel the september 3rd show at obriens so goratory can play haverhill



toggletoggle post by armageddonday   at Aug 3,2004 2:38pm
Don't stop...you're just getting there. I'm surprised you don't get more people at your shows. I don't think I've been to one bad show that you booked.



toggletoggle post by shatteredliz   at Aug 3,2004 2:38pm
No way!! September 3 is the 25th Boston's Dead. It refuses to be cancelled!!



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Aug 3,2004 2:40pm
I've never booked a bad show in my life, people just don't come because they are too busy being faggots, so they can go to the Palladium and complain who there are never good shows.



toggletoggle post by SUBJUGATE   at Aug 3,2004 2:42pm
the sept 3rd show is gonna be sick i'm gonna pop 20 geritol and go out and rock



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Aug 3,2004 2:44pm
and you forgot..
metalheads are lazy



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Aug 3,2004 2:52pm
Yeah, well I think I am finally realizing that will never change.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Aug 3,2004 2:54pm edited Aug 3,2004 2:55pm
shatteredliz said:
No way!! September 3 is the 25th Boston's Dead. It refuses to be cancelled!!


hahahaha, damn you for booking pillory!

GORATORY needs to play a show with us!

let's flip a coin for Darren?



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Aug 3,2004 2:56pm
shatteredliz said:
No way!! September 3 is the 25th Boston's Dead. It refuses to be cancelled!!


I will be there



toggletoggle post by armageddonday   at Aug 3,2004 3:10pm
BANDS: why don't you help fucking flyers for your shows? This is just make it better for you at the end, the more people the more you get paid, and the more exposure you get. I encounter the same thing with the shows we book, only a few bands will flyer for shows and I don't get it.
and it's not just metalheads who are lazy....



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Aug 3,2004 3:14pm
They won't, I made a post about it once and only a few bands paid attention and they were already flyering anyway.
There will never be a metal scene in Boston, and the bands are to blame, not the fans.



toggletoggle post by SUBJUGATE   at Aug 3,2004 3:16pm
cut him in half

RustedAngel said:
shatteredliz said:
No way!! September 3 is the 25th Boston's Dead. It refuses to be cancelled!!


hahahaha, damn you for booking pillory!

GORATORY needs to play a show with us!

let's flip a coin for Darren?





toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Aug 3,2004 3:16pm
my band flyers and promotes shows wherever we can.



toggletoggle post by armageddonday   at Aug 3,2004 3:19pm
You should start teaching other bands to do the same, cause really it's discouraging sometimes.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Aug 3,2004 3:22pm
bostons dead 2 year anniversary basically decides if they can keep the fridays, and i dont think i've seen any of the bands flyering for it.
Granted, Kurixis is from maine, so they are pretty limited in their capacity to promote that show, but nothing should be stopping the other bands.



toggletoggle post by WhyamIandasshole   at Aug 3,2004 3:24pm
I found flying is the least effective way to advertise a show especially in Boston. There are only a few places you can put them up were they wont get taken down, and those are usually a fucking mess of flyers. Also I've never had someone come up to me and say that they came to a show because they saw a flyer. I've gotten much better results canvasing messageboards, doing emails and other internet shit like myspace bulletons. We still flyer for shows but were not as hardcore about it as we were.



toggletoggle post by armageddonday   at Aug 3,2004 3:26pm
yeah it seems that's the way it work in Boston, I have to do both in Providence and we run a minimum of 200 flyers for each shows. But you still can flyer at record stores (you can just send me flyers in Providence too), music store and more important at shows!



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Aug 3,2004 3:27pm
Never give up, never give in!




toggletoggle post by SUBJUGATE   at Aug 3,2004 3:27pm edited Aug 3,2004 3:30pm
i do a shit ton of flyers for all B.O.E shows lotsa spam on message boards and a very large e mail list

but you already know this joe

you also know i get peeved with bands who only flyer for shows of specific importanc to them but but not for the rest of their shows



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Aug 3,2004 3:28pm
I think just flyering other shows is worth it, you actually reach a specific target audience. Obviously not every band can go to every show that happens, but even flyering your shows helps.

I flyered the Mayhem Convention, and hits to my site increased 5 fold for the week following. So flyering does actually work.

Some bands will bring people just from promoting the show on message boards and through emails, but look how stagnant everything has become. It's always going to be the same people coming to see the same bands forever if only those same people are hearing about the shows.



toggletoggle post by WhyamIandasshole   at Aug 3,2004 3:48pm
True,
Flyering big events I agree does help, I'm more talking about street flying. Handing stuff outside the Mastodon show on Saturday would have been good.



toggletoggle post by WhyamIandasshole   at Aug 3,2004 3:50pm
Other local shows too.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Aug 3,2004 3:56pm
we're not even from mass, and our singer went to boston and flyered for our choppin block show... he encountered some areas that terrence had already hit up too ;)



toggletoggle post by Ninkaszi at Aug 3,2004 4:12pm
Most of the time I pass out flyers for Hirudinea shows. When I'm out at bars, I give them to anybody, leave them on the bar, tack it up, etc. It has worked a few times. It's just as important as promoting on the net.



toggletoggle post by armageddonday   at Aug 3,2004 4:30pm
Yeah the best is really to do both and build a serious mailing list too. We mail flyers to stores sometimes (for bigger shows)...doesn't cost much more but still.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Aug 3,2004 8:42pm
Anne beat the idea out of my head, it would be bad business for my bands if I stopped booking shows.



toggletoggle post by armageddonday   at Aug 3,2004 9:41pm
Yeah now you should beat the idea out of my head, I'm pissed. WTF, so the show Saturday got booked at least 6 months ago, and one of the guy just talk to his boss today to take time off for Saturday night...WTF?



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Aug 3,2004 10:07pm
yeah the shape of advertising shows is changing...

it's weird.

if we ever get hooked up in Providence I have a plan to drive down and flyer for a day in a very large an interesting way.

then try and recruit other people to do it.

I am a flyer junky, and flyers convince me to go to shows more than any other method.



toggletoggle post by armageddonday   at Aug 3,2004 10:12pm
you'll get booked in Providence I just need to see you live first...really they're a lot of bands around and we try to let everyone play but we don't book that many shows...




toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Aug 3,2004 10:20pm
no I hear that, I do, and hopefully you'll see us soon...judging by the caliber of some of the shows you put together I don't doubt it keeps your hands full. Intense line-ups. Plus the shop...

What's AS220 like? I've never seen the inside or anything.



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Aug 3,2004 10:52pm
It's the Regal Beagal with a stage.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Aug 3,2004 10:54pm
oh

what's the reagal beagal?

I KNOW someone's gonna say "Like AS220 without the stage" but I'm prepared.



toggletoggle post by armageddonday   at Aug 3,2004 10:58pm
it's a non-profit space they do tons of stuff in the building, art openings, silk screen shops, photo etc. It's all ages, really cosy, they have really good beers (Maudite yummy). Book a lot of different style of music..It's great, to me this is the best place Providence has to offer right now



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