Agreed but property taxes have nothing to do with filing his 1040 unless he's itemizing, in which case, NH's high property taxes would help to reduce his taxable income.
Agreed but property taxes have nothing to do with filing his 1040 unless he's itemizing, in which case, NH's high property taxes would help to reduce his taxable income.
When you factor in lower costs, no income or sales tax, nh wins by far. I also love getting back a huge return. Otherwise, I would have just spent it on something stupid or bills all along and not noticed it,
I get the psychology of getting a big tax refund. It's just that if you lend people money, you don't let someone borrow your shit for a year without some benefit to you. Government's got a good deal on that whole thing. Obama...
Fuck all you dumb shits who think taxes are some new thing Obama imposed on you by executive order. How's that property tax faggot?
My property taxes pay for third world children to attend schools where they get taught nothing.
My federal income tax goes 50% to the military, and the other 50% goes mostly to parasites: welfare, gov't employee hiring, do-gooder social programs, etc.
A sane country could cut its taxes down to a very minimal level by excluding the parasites.
I get the psychology of getting a big tax refund. It's just that if you lend people money, you don't let someone borrow your shit for a year without some benefit to you. Government's got a good deal on that whole thing. Obama...
I put my money in a bank with basically no interest. $18-$50 more in my paycheck would go unnoticed after a month. I would just waste it on something like dunkins. I use my big check for 2 things 1) I can claim more stuff against it (like a new camera from this year and RTTP server costs) and 2) I put it in my bank and use it as a buffer to draw down out of for the year when I spend more each month than I make which is basically every single month.
Please tell me how you didn't lose money (making less than inflation) on the money that you didn't have withheld? I would like to invest in this unless it's an RTTP for a shitty website.
Well, faggot, the high property tax is far easier to swallow than:
1. State income tax (isn't this going up in MA?)
2. High cost of homes and high cost of living
3. Overcrowding/traffic
4. All the dicks in your mouth
No, your black asshole hero didn't invent taxes, but I'm also paying more now than I ever did under Bush. Fuck off.
The property taxes aren't that high since home prices are undervalued and you don't have to pay income/sales. NH is ranked 44th (as in there are only 5 states with lower tax burdens) where as MA is 8th (meaning there are 41 states that have a lower ax burden).
One thing I'm glad about is that my company moved to NH at the same time as the Bush tax break went away. So I got a 3% increase instead of a 5% increase.
Otherwise, I would have just spent it on something stupid or bills all along and not noticed it,
Yes, this is exactly my point that you don't seem to be noticing. It is YOUR money all along. I'm not losing money. Don't know exactly how you figure that getting a smaller refund is somehow losing money. If the amounts are too small for you to notice or save towards one of these big ticket purchases, that's on you, and is the crux of my original point.
Yeah man, in your advanced age you shouldn't need the feds to help you save your money.
post by ÆRK at Apr 4,2013 10:20am
"your money" is just an abstraction. there's a system that enables you the opportunity to make it "your money," there are banks that use "your money" and how taxes are used is another issue. and conservationist who seems to think society would be better with a monarch should be reminded we're all parasites, and rich folks are just as parasitic as welfare recipients, tax evasion and tax benefits are the same thing. you can complain about taxes or complain about how they're spent, which isn't all of the sudden some problem that is decided by who's new in the oval office but the millions of other government employees.
Abstraction? You work, you earn wages. Your money. I'm not saying all the cash is yours, the government gets their cut but the refund itself is money you earned. There's no abstraction. Also, all of the sudden? YOU'RE KILLIN ME GUY!
post by ÆRK at Apr 4,2013 10:31am
i'm saying earned money that is also worth something and the expectation that you can continue to make it and that it will continue to be worth something. it's not "your gold" is what i'm saying. one of the reasons taxes are paid is to ensure it's still worth anything and there's an infrastructure that provides you the opportunity to make it. ugh. i need another coffee.
post by ÆRK at Apr 4,2013 10:32am
you all of the sudden got a problem with my phrase guy?
I can't believe you faggets get all worked up over a portmanteau of irrespective and regardless. Yes, it's not an official word, but it has been widely used for 200 years.
I think, on a purely objective basis, the argument that local and state issues (state income tax, property taxes, traffic) are the fault of Obama makes no sense, because it's a fact that the last decade as a whole has seen a massive drop in how much money the federal government gives to states and localities; Obama fought that trend somewhat with the stimulus (which was one third money to states and localities), and has been arguing for more of that while the other party has been blocking him and we've been watching that for four years now. Whichever side you agree with, we all watched that happen. And of course the crash of 2008 also left us with a shitty economy that put even more pressure on everyone's wallet blah blah blah everyone knows that.
(My point is that it's one thing to say that hey, I'm a conservative and I think the federal government shouldn't spend on states, the states and cities should just tighten their belts - but then you can't at the same time blame the direct effects of that on the very side advocating to give states and localities enough money to avoid having to hike your property taxes and state income taxes to balance their budgets. I know what you might say, well the Democrats in state and local government should have cut more spending instead of raising taxes at all - but how is that the fault of the federal government exactly?
It wasn't long ago at all that conservatives in DC would push for more money back to the states and localities so less of that money would be allocated by the federal government. That argument makes a lot of sense to me, what ever happened to that? Their whole economic strategy has dropped good conservative arguments like that and has instead been reduced to buttfucking local economies in whatever way possible while hoping that people who hate Obama will blame him for it anyway - and it does work to some extent because people who hate Obama love to hate Obama, but what job is Congress even being paid for at that point if their entire goal is to purposely piss in the pool and blame the other guy? While doing that on a single issue for a few days to the other party is an old tradition in DC, there's not another example in history of a party in Congress doing that intentionally as a multi-year national economic strategy. Fucking insane.)
When it comes to federal taxes, which is the topic of the thread, Obama has cut them more for under $250K/yr than any President, and we only got the two year payroll tax cut because he fought with the other party for weeks over it, it was only on the news every day.
But we're supposed to ignore all that objective data because Obama make people mad. Got it.
post by ShadowSD at Apr 4,2013 12:26pm edited Apr 4,2013 12:29pm
And now that I'm done writing my usual boring serious rant in a political thread, here's a much more entertaining lulzy cartoon that makes fun of all sides of this issue:
No, your black asshole hero didn't invent taxes, but I'm also paying more now than I ever did under Bush. Fuck off.
The same Bush who turned a surplus into a deficit and bankrolled two endless wars on your dime? DERRR... I LIEK WHEN WE BLOW UP THE TOWELHEADS BUT I DON'T WANNA PAY FOR IT. Also cite some examples, dill weed.
Otherwise, I would have just spent it on something stupid or bills all along and not noticed it,
Yes, this is exactly my point that you don't seem to be noticing. It is YOUR money all along. I'm not losing money. Don't know exactly how you figure that getting a smaller refund is somehow losing money. If the amounts are too small for you to notice or save towards one of these big ticket purchases, that's on you, and is the crux of my original point.
No, your black asshole hero didn't invent taxes, but I'm also paying more now than I ever did under Bush. Fuck off.
The same Bush who turned a surplus into a deficit and bankrolled two endless wars on your dime? DERRR... I LIEK WHEN WE BLOW UP THE TOWELHEADS BUT I DON'T WANNA PAY FOR IT. Also cite some examples, dill weed.
Why do you log out to argue with me? Are you really afraid that I'll beat you up for name calling and being generally annoying? Please.
Bush/Cheney administration was garbage. Obama/Biden sucks just as much or worse. Have you ignored the fact that the fucking guy has basically blown just about every one of his campaign promises? We still have the Afghanistan mess, retard, and your hero has thrown even more troops at it throughout his administration. I've supported none of the war efforts, we should leave the blowing up of towelheads to towelheads because they've been doing it so well for thousands of years.
I think, on a purely objective basis, the argument that local and state issues (state income tax, property taxes, traffic) are the fault of Obama makes no sense.
I'll just cut off your exhausting diatribe right there, because nobody is saying that state taxes have anything to do with federal taxes. Some scared troll brought up high property tax and I did a quick NH-MA comparison.
Work on reading comprehension and sentence structure. A run-on sentence is not a sentence.
You said "I'm also paying more now than I ever did under Bush", and called Obama an asshole as a conclusion sentence to a list of topics you typed which included state taxes. Sounds like I read it just fine.
Semicolons and parentheses mean the sentence can go longer than only using commas; I pushed it a little bit up there, but not as much as you're making it sound.
No, the logged out fag brought up 2 separate points to attack me on and I addressed them separately. The numbered list was comparing MA to NH (property tax comment). The Obama comment was answering the accusation that somehow I think that Obama invented taxes.
