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returntothepit >> discuss >> Nintendo Power closes down by the_reverend on Aug 22,2012 9:33am
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toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Aug 22,2012 9:39am
RIP



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 9:44am
Should have died out in 1995.



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Aug 22,2012 9:54am
i thought it was long dead.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 9:55am
AndrewBastard said[orig][quote]
i thought it was long dead.


yea really. I used to love NP back in the diz nizzle but I haven't seen or heard anything from them in ages.



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Aug 22,2012 9:55am
i loved when they had walk throughs screen for screen to help you on hard ass games.



toggletoggle post by Spence at Aug 22,2012 10:03am edited Aug 22,2012 10:03am
That's sad, I had a subscription to Nintendo Power for about six or seven months back when I was in middle school.



toggletoggle post by TheTacoBellBell  at Aug 22,2012 10:13am
BONG



toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 22,2012 10:14am
#1 game every week for 50 years: a link to the past.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 10:17am
ark said[orig][quote]
#1 game every week for 50 years: a link to the past.


That's some accurate reporting.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 10:23am
Ppfffftt. I still think that is the weakest 8/16 bit Zelda.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Aug 22,2012 12:51pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Ppfffftt. I still think that is the weakest 8/16 bit Zelda.


Only watching Jim watch Gaucher play 3D Zelda and bitching about it is real.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 12:55pm edited Aug 22,2012 12:56pm
Meh, all Nintendo games are usually good. I've been anti-3d Zelda since I first red about 3D Zeldas.
Link to the Past is a great game, but I definitely prefer Link's Awakening and Zelda 1 (obviously) and Zelda 2 (such a unique game).



toggletoggle post by Burnsy at Aug 22,2012 1:10pm
Link's awakening on gameboy awl day, SON.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 1:18pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Ppfffftt. I still think that is the weakest 8/16 bit Zelda.


the NES zelda games are BORING AS FUCK.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 1:18pm
I CANT HEAR YOU


WHAT



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 1:23pm
I said

THE NES ZELDA GAMES ARE BORING AS FUCK.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 1:24pm
A Link to the Past and Link's Awakening are so far above the NES games it's not even funny.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 1:25pm
IM SORRY




WHAT



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 1:35pm
I SAID MOTORHEADS COVER OF 'LOUIE LOUIE' IS ANNOYING AS FUCK



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 1:37pm
ONE MORE TIME

MY HEARING AID IS DYING



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 1:39pm
I SAID 'SCARED STUPID' IS BY FAR THE BEST JIM VARNEY FILM



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 1:40pm
OK OK GOTCHA NOW. IT REALLY IS. SO MANY TROLLS.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Aug 22,2012 1:41pm
Only having the copy of Dragon Warrior they gave away with OG Nintendo Power subscription is real.



toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 22,2012 2:12pm
trioxin245 said[orig][quote]
A Link to the Past and Link's Awakening are so far above the NES games it's not even funny.


that's so true, and don't even lie jim, you were digging skyward sword (which i'm about %80 done with and much bigger game world than we thought)



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 2:22pm
I'm not gonna lie. thats why I said Nintendo games are good. I just disagree on the dimensional aspect, Linktouros



toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 22,2012 2:23pm
fair enough. i like new games and using my 3d hardware, but i still haven't played a better game than 2d super metroid.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 2:25pm
ark said[orig][quote]
fair enough. i like new games and using my 3d hardware, but i still haven't played a better game than 2d super metroid.


that's because it's an incredible game. much better than the original Metroid, although that's still a good 'un



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 2:26pm
IM SORRY,


WHAT



toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 22,2012 2:27pm
super metroid is better than metroid: FACT



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 2:33pm
SORRY GUYS


SPEAK UP



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 2:34pm
I CANNOT WAIT TO BE AN OLD MAN



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 2:40pm
ark said[orig][quote]
super metroid is better than metroid: FACT


lol @ there even being an argument against this.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 2:41pm
Original Metroid is way better.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 2:43pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Original Metroid is way better.


I'd love to hear your argument as to why...



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 2:44pm
Longer, bigger maze. Bleaker game.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 2:51pm
That's not an argument, because it isn't even true. If anything, the original metroid took longer only because you had to constantly back track to areas you'd already seen over and over, which is one of its biggest failings.

Super Metroid had weapon upgrades, better inventory and saving, much larger and more diverse world, control was better, a much more immersive and memorable story line, not to mention it used more than 3 colors and had one of the better soundtracks of the SNES.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 2:54pm
That was the beauty of the first. It was like a maze. Obviusly the second one was an upgrade in all facets of play, but a.) Much easier. b.) Not a direct sequel and c.) metroid II for gameboy blows both away.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 2:55pm
Essentially the same argument could be used for comparing the NES zelda games to A Link to the Past.

If you think the originals are superior because you have more memories of them than the newer ones than I understand completely, but there's no way you could sit down and play Metroid and Super Metroid back to back for the first time and tell me that you had better things to say about the former.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 2:56pm
I don't think Super Metroid was easier at all. Game could be unforgiving as hell. It might've been easier because the controls were more fluent and the gameplay was more refined, not to mention the fact that you would've been more used to that type of gameplay by the time the SNES came out than when the original came out (as in, fighting games nowadays seem easier because we've been playing similar games for years so we can just pick up and play instead of learning from scratch).



toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 22,2012 2:57pm
super metroid was the game the developers wanted to make from the start. easier? debatable. better more immersive controls? absolutely.



toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 22,2012 2:58pm
and i completely fail as a metroid fanboy for never playing metroid II for GB.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 2:59pm
Metroid II is excellent. It's like the first one, only with an actual save system, so you don't want to RIP YOUR OWN FACE OFF OF YOUR FACE every time you die.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 3:00pm
This thread made me bust out Super Metroid. I'm five minutes in and loving it. Game hasn't aged a day in 15 years.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 3:02pm
Sure, maybe nostalgia comes into play here. I sincerely think Metroid II is the best of the three, though. It was a dark fucking game.
I'll never forget playing Super Metroid on shrooms. THE WALLS BREATHE



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 3:03pm
Ive never playes Metroid Prime or any of that garbage.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 3:05pm
I actually remember Metroid Prime being pretty good when I played it on my buddies gamecube, but I don't know enough about it to have much of an opinion.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 3:06pm
I don't understand the argument that game sequels on different platforms are superior than the originals. Mario64? Great game. Better than any of the NES ones? No way.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 3:07pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Sure, maybe nostalgia comes into play here.


I'm not trying to tell you you're wrong or anything, it's just like, my opinion man. I'm just saying, I defended the original Legend of Zelda my whole life, but when I picked it up recently I was BORED to tears, whereas I have beaten A Link to the Past probably 100 times in my life and it never gets old.

AOW is better anyway.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 3:08pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
I don't understand the argument that game sequels on different platforms are superior than the originals. Mario64? Great game. Better than any of the NES ones? No way.


Mario 3 > Super Mario Bros > Mario 64



toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 22,2012 3:09pm
the metroid prime series is awesome. they stand up to any great nintendo game. huge positive critical reception. they do capture the feel of metroid, but being first person shooter in addition to standard metroid adventure/exploration games they're not for everybody.



toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 22,2012 3:10pm
trioxin245 said[orig][quote]
This thread made me bust out Super Metroid. I'm five minutes in and loving it. Game hasn't aged a day in 15 years.
that's why i still stand that it's my favorite game of all time. it's so damn fresh and still feels new. a link to the past aged just as well.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 3:11pm
ark said[orig][quote]
the metroid prime series is awesome. they stand up to any great nintendo game. huge positive critical reception. they do capture the feel of metroid, but being first person shooter in addition to standard metroid adventure/exploration games they're not for everybody.


Yea I mean, I at least remember Prime having all the elements of the Metroid games, with the exception of it being first person as opposed to side-scrolling.

I'm just extremely biased when it comes to the SNES. Best console ever. Period. Everyone can have their own opinion on the matter, but it will never even come close to changing mine.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 3:12pm
I think I guess youd have to look at a game when it came out. When the original Metroid came out people were blown away. My friend's dad hand drew maps of the game and them littered around their house.
When super metroid came out, everyone loved it for the same reasons, but it also went with the times. SNES waa a far superior system than NES and they utilized the technology. Both games are great, but I guess in FAIRNESS I WILL SAY BOTH ARE RESPECTABLE GAMES IN THEIR OWN RIGHT






BUT METROID II IS DARKER



toggletoggle post by Burnsy at Aug 22,2012 3:13pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
.metroid II for gameboy blows both away.

Never played the nes versions but this game fucking ruled.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 3:16pm
Gameboy is the best system Nintendo ever produced.



toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 22,2012 3:23pm
hand-drawn maps in video games, haven't needed those in 20 years. but LEGENDS OF GRIMROCK has a setting where you do need to keep a hand drawn grid map. great game btw!



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Aug 22,2012 3:29pm
My two cents:

Super Metroid is not only the best Metroid game, it's the best video game of all time, period. I'm not gonna bother debating, I'm just going to state that opinion as fact and see what people make of it.

Metroid II for GB: don't bother, not that good.

I can't make heads or tails of the two Zelda games on NES, it's extremely unclear what you're even supposed to do in them on times. I got to the third dungeon in the first game but I just scratch my head thinking about it now.

I busted out A Link to the Past not long ago and have been working on it again. I haven't beaten that game in years so I'm forgetting some crucial information but it's still the shit.

Skyward Sword was fun as fuck, though not very challenging.

Never did like 3D Metroid.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 3:40pm
Lamp, you're never allowed to use my speaker cables or anything else again.



toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 22,2012 3:41pm
trioxin245 said[orig][quote]
ark said[orig][quote]
super metroid is better than metroid: FACT


lol @ there even being an argument against this.


THIS IS NOT UP FOR DEBATE



toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 22,2012 3:41pm
LAMP JOHNSON IS RIGHT



toggletoggle post by trioxin_245  at Aug 22,2012 3:42pm
Also, I played a Zelda game for the gamecube one time that was pretty good. Don't remember what it was called, but it was pretty dark for a Zelda game. I remember morphing into a wolf...



toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 22,2012 3:42pm
that was twilight princess. great zelda game.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 3:49pm
puke.



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Aug 22,2012 3:51pm
i played one on gamecube too (i think it was game cube) and you used an actual little cross bow to play the game in certain parts.

I'm not imagining that right?



toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 22,2012 3:52pm
like a physical crossbow in your hands? never happened.



toggletoggle post by chernobyl at Aug 22,2012 3:52pm
trioxin245 said[orig][quote]
I SAID 'SCARED STUPID' IS BY FAR THE BEST JIM VARNEY FILM


Agreed.



toggletoggle post by trioxin_245  at Aug 22,2012 3:52pm
LOLWUT



toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 22,2012 3:53pm
uh yeah abastard i guess that was a game. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link%27s_Crossbow_Training



toggletoggle post by trioxin_245  at Aug 22,2012 3:54pm
WTF is that?



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Aug 22,2012 3:54pm
it was for Wii!!!!!!!!!!!!!



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Aug 22,2012 3:55pm
it was at a friends house and we were hammered:






toggletoggle post by trioxin_245  at Aug 22,2012 3:56pm
also, to get back on topic

http://cinemassacre.com/2007/09/04/avgn-nintendo-power/

and yes I am VERY aware that AVGN is old news.



toggletoggle post by chernobyl at Aug 22,2012 3:56pm
Haha Link sort of looks like Andrew



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 3:57pm
AVGN is best news and never gets old. Ark told me he's never seen. WATCHHHH.



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Aug 22,2012 3:58pm
chernobyl said[orig][quote]
Haha Link sort of looks like Andrew


<3 <3

i wish i was Link.



toggletoggle post by trioxin_245  at Aug 22,2012 4:06pm
Link doesn't look anything like Andrew. He's all skinny and girly cuz he's an elf. Andrew is all MAN(jew)



toggletoggle post by trioxin_245  at Aug 22,2012 4:06pm
also, this 'links crossbow training' game seems like it's more of just a flash game advertisement type deal than a real game.



toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 22,2012 4:09pm
ok i'm watching it now. yes this is great. oh the nintendo power days.



toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 22,2012 4:17pm
shit, watching avgn, i remember almost every single magazine he pulls out.



toggletoggle post by trioxin_245  at Aug 22,2012 4:22pm
ark said[orig][quote]
shit, watching avgn, i remember almost every single magazine he pulls out.


I've seen every single AVGN so many times now haha. I have the dvds. Hadn't even heard of it til like two or three years ago though.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 4:24pm
Uhhhh AVGN dvds?



toggletoggle post by trioxin_245  at Aug 22,2012 4:26pm
http://www.screwattackstore.com/avgndvds.html

way old news Jim. TRY TO KEEP UP.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 4:26pm
SORRY, I'M GOING DEAF


WHAT



toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 22,2012 4:29pm
hbabahhahaahah i'm watching the batman one and losing my coffee



toggletoggle post by trioxin_245  at Aug 22,2012 4:30pm
ark said[orig][quote]
hbabahhahaahah i'm watching the batman one and losing my coffee


I like the batman ones but the kid who plays the joker in the second one gets reeeeeeally annoying after a while (he's also in tons of other videos, like the Star Trek one as a Klingon.)



toggletoggle post by my_dying_bride at Aug 22,2012 9:08pm
ABACABB



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