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returntothepit >> discuss >> National ID is back and Obama supports it by TheRidersofDoom on Mar 19,2010 8:38am
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toggletoggle post by TheRidersofDoom  at Mar 19,2010 8:38am
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...8/AR2010031803762.html?hpid=topnews


good bye privacy!

by the way if this passes I will be in jail or flee the country, I absolutely refuse to get a card that carries my entire life on it and keeps track of where I am.



toggletoggle post by MikeofdecrepitudE at Mar 19,2010 8:51am
Where is security governed through scrutiny?



toggletoggle post by Slag NLI at Mar 19,2010 8:52am
Just by posting this one morsel on the internet, your IP address could be tracked back to your house or where ever you are. The government could hunt you down at any moment. You mentioned something about privacy?



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Mar 19,2010 8:56am
a) it doesn't keep track of where you are
2) you don't have to get one, illegal immigrants can get one

"As in earlier efforts, the senators would grant legal status to illegal immigrants who have not committed felonies, and who admit they broke the law by entering the country illegally, then agree to perform community service, pay fines and back taxes, pass background checks and learn English."

they're already here and not going away so why not squeeze money out of them and make them lern english good.

and of course rule # 3) never submit to a biometric scan. problem solved



toggletoggle post by TheRidersofDoom  at Mar 19,2010 8:58am
Slag%20NLI said[orig][quote]
Just by posting this one morsel on the internet, your IP address could be tracked back to your house or where ever you are. The government could hunt you down at any moment. You mentioned something about privacy?



yeah but if I left the house at least they couldn't find me hahah. I understand the internet as a means of tracking people but it can't tell the gov where I am.

these cards will be needed for almost everything, using transit, entering federal buildings, leaving the country, and with today's technology I wouldn't put it past them that they would put tracking devices in them...they can make those microscopic now.



toggletoggle post by TheRidersofDoom  at Mar 19,2010 8:59am
arktouros said[orig][quote]
a) it doesn't keep track of where you are
2) you don't have to get one, illegal immigrants can get one

"As in earlier efforts, the senators would grant legal status to illegal immigrants who have not committed felonies, and who admit they broke the law by entering the country illegally, then agree to perform community service, pay fines and back taxes, pass background checks and learn English."

they're already here and not going away so why not squeeze money out of them and make them lern english good.

and of course rule # 3) never submit to a biometric scan. problem solved



every american will need one, says it everywhere I read. You will need it to verify employment...but soon they think it will be needed to board a train, bus, plane...enter a library ahaha



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Mar 19,2010 9:02am
arktouros said[orig][quote]
a) it doesn't keep track of where you are
2) you don't have to get one, illegal immigrants can get one
rule # 3) never submit to a biometric scan. problem solved


where's rule #1? Or better yet, b and c?



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Mar 19,2010 9:02am
ah. Real ID II. if it passes i'll do whatever it takes to not get one.



toggletoggle post by TheRidersofDoom  at Mar 19,2010 9:04am
Yeah this was passed over sooooo lightly by NPR, I swear that healthcare is being used to cover it up so we are all angry over healthcare then bam both parties pass this.

that's the scary thing, both parties looove the shit out of this idea and will think we will love them for working together on it.



toggletoggle post by Slag NLI at Mar 19,2010 9:07am
TheRidersofDoom said[orig][quote]
Slag%20NLI said[orig][quote]
Just by posting this one morsel on the internet, your IP address could be tracked back to your house or where ever you are. The government could hunt you down at any moment. You mentioned something about privacy?



yeah but if I left the house at least they couldn't find me hahah. I understand the internet as a means of tracking people but it can't tell the gov where I am.

these cards will be needed for almost everything, using transit, entering federal buildings, leaving the country, and with today's technology I wouldn't put it past them that they would put tracking devices in them...they can make those microscopic now.


I see what you are saying. But do not forget to leave the cellphone at home. They'll get you with that too. And the credit cards.

Siberia sounds better daily.



toggletoggle post by TheRidersofDoom  at Mar 19,2010 9:09am
I feel like my crazy thoughts of moving out into the woods of canada are becoming more and more logical and sane daily.



toggletoggle post by MikeofdecrepitudE at Mar 19,2010 9:13am
They'll still find you.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 19,2010 9:17am
TheRidersofDoom said[orig][quote]
I feel like my crazy thoughts of moving out into the the asteroid belt and mining uranium are becoming more and more logical and sane daily.


fix'd, back'd



toggletoggle post by TheRidersofDoom  at Mar 19,2010 9:20am
Uncle Owen keeps making me stay on for the water harvest hence I can't become a pilot and check out the asteroid belt.

I know that is nothing like what your reference was aiming for but now I want to watch a new hope.



toggletoggle post by Slag NLI at Mar 19,2010 9:20am



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Mar 19,2010 9:28am
^wow...whoever made that is a fucking genius



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Mar 19,2010 9:29am
you don't get more jew than ferengi



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 19,2010 9:42am
burn your passports then faggos



toggletoggle post by TheRidersofDoom  at Mar 19,2010 10:27am
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
burn your passports then faggos



you don't use a passport to get a job/board the t/get on a train/get on a national flight


but yes, there are chips in passports so they can track you overseas and make sure you aint hanging with bin laden's crew.

on that note I don't have one yet, but willl need one once it comes time to visit iceland...what america will look like in five years, economically that is.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Mar 19,2010 10:28am
MikeofdecrepitudE said[orig][quote]
Where is security governed through scrutiny?


your privacy denied, organized and confined.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Mar 19,2010 10:30am
hah, iceland has had a self-sufficient local economy for 1000+ years. no matter what their bank's balance sheets look like, you wouldn't know the difference.



toggletoggle post by TheRidersofDoom  at Mar 19,2010 10:33am
arktouros said[orig][quote]
hah, iceland has had a self-sufficient local economy for 1000+ years. no matter what their bank's balance sheets look like, you wouldn't know the difference.


them fuckers are screwed, I read in the economist that the citizens are being forced to bail out their banks and the tab is due, the article was called the united states of iceland because it's supposed to parallel what we will be dealing with in five years when supposedly we will have to start paying the bills

but yes, they have meat, wool, small farming, fishing and whaling, thermal energy

don't know why they just don't say fuck it and isolate themselves they don't need shit anymore.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Mar 19,2010 10:36am



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 19,2010 10:46am
ok, trod, then burn your license. try go out to get a drink without an ID card. Oh wait, you can't! right now we have 50 different national ids. some of them area really easy for people to fake too. hm.. time for this nilla to become mclovin.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Mar 19,2010 10:49am
also hilarious: people who don't want to fill out the census. not like they don't already have your info.



toggletoggle post by TheRidersofDoom  at Mar 19,2010 10:51am
yeah but at least a license doesn't give the person scanning it access to your records. Basically what they propose is adding on your criminal record, list of previous addresses, medical conditions, and other info like the shit the TSA has on a lot of people that they don't know about.



toggletoggle post by Slag NLI at Mar 19,2010 10:56am
Good news in all of this is, we all die soon.



toggletoggle post by douchebag_patrol at Mar 19,2010 12:46pm



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 19,2010 1:03pm
TheRidersofDoom said[orig][quote]
yeah but at least a license doesn't give the person scanning it access to your records. Basically what they propose is adding on your criminal record, list of previous addresses, medical conditions, and other info like the shit the TSA has on a lot of people that they don't know about.
you are right. the cops take your license, walk back to their car, wipe their boogers on the card, and then come back and hand it to you. all they are checking for is if you have a muslim name or your license smells like cocaine.



toggletoggle post by Vagoo Vikernes at Mar 19,2010 1:06pm
I am amused that liberal America is not pleased with the mulatto they elected. Don't they know his policies will be half-George Bush, half-Kenya? In Kenya they also have ID cards. It is the bribe you pay to police officers so that they do not arrest you immediately.



toggletoggle post by TheRidersofDoom  at Mar 19,2010 1:07pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
TheRidersofDoom said[orig][quote]
yeah but at least a license doesn't give the person scanning it access to your records. Basically what they propose is adding on your criminal record, list of previous addresses, medical conditions, and other info like the shit the TSA has on a lot of people that they don't know about.
you are right. the cops take your license, walk back to their car, wipe their boogers on the card, and then come back and hand it to you. all they are checking for is if you have a muslim name or your license smells like cocaine.



nigga I'm talking employers will have access to sensitive info, I know cops can look that shit up, well minus medical history



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