ive loved them since the depressing all the umbrellas in london 7" til now. I also got to see them with carina on the distortion tour (2008?) and before that on the 69 love songs tour where they did all 69 love songs over 2 days at the somerville theatre in 2001. we actually tried to steal the 69 love songs tour for WUNH, but they require something weird in the orchestra room that would have been allowed. plus, it was a shit ton of money.