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returntothepit >> discuss >> Finally getting my bass sound pretty close to almost right for the first time in 16 years APPREESH by DestroyYouAlot on Mar 10,2009 11:10am
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toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 10,2009 11:10am
What the title says. I've been playing this:

LTD B155



through this:

AMPEG SVT3 PRO



into this:

AMPEG CLASSIC 15"



and a crap Carvin 15" cab for some time, nao. The super warm/hot punchy mids are there in spades, and I've tweaked it a whole bunch lately to where I was really happy with that part of the sound, but that really excessive growly overdrive just wasn't there until I hit on the idea of putting this:

TECH21 SANSAMP BASS DRIVER DI



in front of the amp. Drive close to full, presence backed off a bit, treble up a bit, bass backed off plenty, and tweak the blend to where the punch is there but backed up by the growl. WTF - totally psyched with the possibilties, here. I still need to tweak a bit before practice to find the right mix, but it sounds fucking gigantic, now. Chords are just mosntrous and warm, B-string play isn't rumbly and duck-fart-y, everything is lovely. PSYCHED.

(To be fair, I just stole this from Alex Webster - saw that he was running a SansAmp in front of his SVT4 somewhere whilst trolling around trying to find a backup of the Bassists of Death forum, figured I'd try it. What I'm rocking now is pretty much a ghetto version of his setup. Which is just fine by me. Now just to find a cheap as free Ampeg 8x10. LOL)



toggletoggle post by Blue  at Mar 10,2009 11:26am
Youd have a lot easier time if you had some ten inch speakers in that rig. And dont count out a pickup change.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Mar 10,2009 11:29am
$500
http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/msg/1060130200.html


could probably get that cheaper with patience though



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 10,2009 11:31am
IN B4 BLU- OSHIT



toggletoggle post by DrewBlood   at Mar 10,2009 11:35am
10 inch speakers with a sub low pass will give you usable low end down to 26hz. the difference is noticeable, especially if you plan on using a 5 string.

ampeg 4x10 HLF por vida



toggletoggle post by W3 nli at Mar 10,2009 11:37am
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
IN B4 BLU- OSHIT


LOL @ YOUR FAIL



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 10,2009 11:41am
Yeah, 10 inchers would def be my preference, but new gear money is going to be a while in coming. Pickups might be a possibility in the near future, but that brings of back to the "active or no" debate. YER THOTS?



toggletoggle post by Blue  at Mar 10,2009 12:01pm
Well that giant reply i just typed out expired cus phone posting blows. Ill provide a response when i get in front of a real computer.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 10,2009 12:23pm
FUCK, I KNOW, RIGHT?!? My original response to your response is off in phone post limbo. LOL



toggletoggle post by destroyyoualot  at Mar 10,2009 12:33pm
BTW, Blue's Clues, your ever-vigilant gear feedback is much appreeshed. I almost want to lure you down to the Worcester space with some greenbacks/bud and have you solve all our problems, but our guitarist's ghetto rig might make your head asplode. LOL



toggletoggle post by badsneakers at Mar 10,2009 3:11pm
I have to say lucky you! I have yet to everfind the right sound for anything I do. I just keep buying bass gear..



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Mar 10,2009 3:11pm
I'm afraid that the only correct bass tone involves Sunn 300t



toggletoggle post by TheGreatSpaldino   at Mar 10,2009 3:14pm edited Mar 10,2009 3:15pm
seriously, the best tone i have ever had was from an 80's randall guitar head. it JUST shit the bed on me... but before that, it was the best metal bass tone i have ever had. it was being played through my shitty huge peavey 4x10 700 watt cab.



toggletoggle post by TheGreatSpaldino   at Mar 10,2009 3:17pm
brian_dc said[orig][quote]
I'm afraid that the only correct bass tone involves Sunn 300t


you apparently havent played with any Eden heads before...



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 10,2009 3:18pm
The SansAmp gets a lot of love on the bass forums, and I agree. One of the only bass ODs I've heard that isn't trying to be a guitar pedal. Very versatile, as well.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Mar 10,2009 3:19pm
yeah Steve your bass was very audible at practice.



toggletoggle post by TheGreatSpaldino   at Mar 10,2009 3:19pm
oh and triple post WUT?!


but yeah... i'd say go with active preamp/passive pick ups. well since you are dirtying up your sound with the sans amp anyway... i guess active pick ups would be fine. i never really cared a whole lot for active bass pick ups. i always thought it was too much. *shrug*



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 10,2009 3:20pm
Yeti, you actually haven't heard this yet - whole new levels of snarly and gnarly.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Mar 10,2009 3:22pm
my loins are tingling with anticipation.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Mar 10,2009 3:31pm
TheGreatSpaldino said[orig][quote]
brian_dc said[orig][quote]
I'm afraid that the only correct bass tone involves Sunn 300t


you apparently havent played with any Eden heads before...



I don't even play bass. I just know what's behind a lot of tones I enjoy. I just like a powerful, present tone. And the gain stage of that amp is crazy.

I'm checking out Eden videos now. I can tell it's a sweet amp, but it's mostly this dude playing stock, clean funk bass lines at NAMM. Different amps for different things.



toggletoggle post by narkybark   at Mar 10,2009 4:09pm
I'm still experimenting with my sound. Everytime I think I'm happy with it I change my mind.



toggletoggle post by Blue  at Mar 10,2009 5:44pm
my recommendation is to sell the carvin 1x15 (why you have 2 15s and no 10s is beyond me) and pick up a 2x10 cab to put on top. you'll have a hell of a lot easier time not muddying up your sound.

as far as replacement pickups are concerned, you have only so many options because your bass is routed to take EMG pickups. i have a feeling you'd probably be satisfied with getting a set of EMG 40DCs in there, it'll give you all the output you'll need and youll mess yourself with how huge it'll sound with the sansamp. i'd recommend upgrading the preamp in the bass too if you're going to go that route though. basically its 2 choices: money to burn - EMGs, no money to burn - passives.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 10,2009 6:36pm
Blue said[orig][quote]
my recommendation is to sell the carvin 1x15 (why you have 2 15s and no 10s is beyond me) and pick up a 2x10 cab to put on top. you'll have a hell of a lot easier time not muddying up your sound.[/IMG]

Why 2 15s is just 'cause that's what I stumbled into for no money. *shrug* Not ideal, but it makes the loud. That's definitely in my game plan, though.

[IMG]as far as replacement pickups are concerned, you have only so many options because your bass is routed to take EMG pickups. i have a feeling you'd probably be satisfied with getting a set of EMG 40DCs in there, it'll give you all the output you'll need and youll mess yourself with how huge it'll sound with the sansamp. i'd recommend upgrading the preamp in the bass too if you're going to go that route though. basically its 2 choices: money to burn - EMGs, no money to burn - passives.


Blue, you have stock in a 9v battery manufacturer, don't you? LOL

Thanks, dude. I'll look into it.



toggletoggle post by DrewBlood   at Mar 10,2009 10:14pm
brian_dc said[orig][quote]
TheGreatSpaldino said[orig][quote]
brian_dc said[orig][quote]
I'm afraid that the only correct bass tone involves Sunn 300t


you apparently havent played with any Eden heads before...



I don't even play bass. I just know what's behind a lot of tones I enjoy. I just like a powerful, present tone. And the gain stage of that amp is crazy.

I'm checking out Eden videos now. I can tell it's a sweet amp, but it's mostly this dude playing stock, clean funk bass lines at NAMM. Different amps for different things.


i agree with brian



toggletoggle post by ArilliusBM  at Mar 10,2009 10:31pm
steve, are you still making me my wooden pedal board? LOL



toggletoggle post by jimboNLI at Mar 10,2009 10:35pm
jim... thought you weren't posting anymore sir?



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 10,2009 11:49pm
ArilliusBM said[orig][quote]
steve, are you still making me my wooden pedal board? LOL


SRSLY, talk to me in the springtime. Once it's not fucking freezing in my basement I should have a pretty decent workshop set up.



toggletoggle post by metalguy_2 at Mar 11,2009 12:48am
Ampeg SVT
MesaBoogie 400+

These two amplifiers will make you sound like god...



toggletoggle post by metalguy_2 at Mar 11,2009 12:49am
Wasn't impressed by the Sunn bass amplifier at all



toggletoggle post by metalguy_2 at Mar 11,2009 1:04am
btw i will sell a fender 2x10 for cheap, it is beat up but it will definitely round your sound out.. thebleedingpromotions@gmail.com






toggletoggle post by BSV at Mar 11,2009 1:25am
my LTD is beat to hell right now...neck is just plain ole fucked. she's been through ALOT!



toggletoggle post by badsneakers at Mar 11,2009 6:30am
metalguy_2 said[orig][quote]
Ampeg SVT
MesaBoogie 400+

These two amplifiers will make you sound like god...


well the ampeg svtcl are not worth the money but i fully endorse the 400+

I'm currently digging on my peavey classic 400 but i killed my sunn 2000s on monday



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