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returntothepit >> discuss >> ATTN: ouchdrummer by MikeofdecrepitudE on Feb 18,2009 2:41pm
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toggletoggle post by MikeofdecrepitudE at Feb 18,2009 2:41pm
5-MeO-DMT (FTW)




toggletoggle post by sever at Feb 18,2009 2:46pm
WIN



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 18,2009 3:25pm
bufo alvaris. (sp)



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 18,2009 3:33pm
I almost bought one of these guys and a little lady one for him. I found out that the milking of the gland with the 5-meo-dmt doesn't hurt em at all, apparently they kinda relax when you do it. I decided against it due to my de-apprech for 5-meo-dmt. Too much body load, too much tension, not NEARLY as many visuals. For a good 5-meo, actually one that's better with its' MAOI portion (5-meo) is 5-meo-amt. Reg AMT is kinda lame, the 5-meo lasts for around 20hours of peak. I think erowid says 12-15, but that's incredibly low dose. You need a MG scale for it, cause 15mg would kill ya, but between 5-7mg is a wild ride. One you wouldn't need a MG scale for is 5-acetoxy-det (aceta-psybin) which is sorta like hippie-flipping, you can eye that one, cause doses >150mg won't kill ya, it's pretty easy to split piles in half and shoot for 50mg from weighing .1g on a reg scale.


...Did i mention you can order 5-meo-amt, and 5-acetoxy-det semi/legally?



toggletoggle post by W3 @ work at Feb 18,2009 3:34pm
Bufo is a great hardcore band



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 18,2009 3:35pm
I still didn't drink the 'Huasca i made the other day...... MikeofdecrepitudE- where do you live?



toggletoggle post by MikeofdecrepitudE at Feb 18,2009 3:51pm
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]
I almost bought one of these guys and a little lady one for him. I found out that the milking of the gland with the 5-meo-dmt doesn't hurt em at all, apparently they kinda relax when you do it. I decided against it due to my de-apprech for 5-meo-dmt. Too much body load, too much tension, not NEARLY as many visuals. For a good 5-meo, actually one that's better with its' MAOI portion (5-meo) is 5-meo-amt. Reg AMT is kinda lame, the 5-meo lasts for around 20hours of peak. I think erowid says 12-15, but that's incredibly low dose. You need a MG scale for it, cause 15mg would kill ya, but between 5-7mg is a wild ride. One you wouldn't need a MG scale for is 5-acetoxy-det (aceta-psybin) which is sorta like hippie-flipping, you can eye that one, cause doses >150mg won't kill ya, it's pretty easy to split piles in half and shoot for 50mg from weighing .1g on a reg scale.


...Did i mention you can order 5-meo-amt, and 5-acetoxy-det semi/legally?


Yup, and I also know that bouncingbearbotanicals.com used to sell the Bufo Alvarius toad, but I'm not sure on its current availability. The toads will indeed provide their sacred venom as long as you take good care of them. They do require special care, especially sanitizing your hands when handling them and keeping them away from certain environments because they're highly prone to infection, from absorbing toxins through their skin. I've only smoked about 10mg of 5-MeO and I ended up having a void experience. It was almost disabling.



toggletoggle post by MikeofdecrepitudE at Feb 18,2009 3:53pm
Ouch, I reside in Newton. Are you planning on consuming that Yagé soon?



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Feb 18,2009 4:02pm
Bouncing Bear has greaaaaat stuff.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Feb 18,2009 4:03pm
SCIENCE



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Feb 18,2009 4:04pm
Bouncing Bear has some great salvia as well



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 18,2009 4:09pm
MikeofdecrepitudE said[orig][quote]
Ouch, I reside in Newton. Are you planning on consuming that Yagé soon?

yes. I was thinking either later tonight (9pm-ish) or monday evening. I always feel fine to do whatever within 4hours. 5 hours for heroic doses.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 18,2009 4:13pm
i'm in southie by the way. Right off of the pike.

Salvia- Honestly the only drug i feel is down right evil. As in I wasn't myself at all when i did it. Real high dose, but still, it was really really evil. Made me feel all sorts of bad. And i've tried it a bunch of ways/doses seeking the beauty i hear so often associated with it. It always makes me feel bad. I even got one of the labs that used to make research chemis for me (Phenethylamines,Tryptamines) to make me a quarter gram of Salvinorum-a... and even that wasn't fun.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Feb 18,2009 4:25pm
Yeah, I REALLY didn't enjoy salvia that much at all. Way too 3rd-person (to the degree that I don't care what happens to me), plus I felt "crackly," which was unpleasant. The time distortion is cool, though.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 18,2009 4:29pm
yeah, i coulda done really bad things to myself and others under this particular influence. Reminded me of a more apathetic dust.... which is a pretty unstable place to be.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Feb 18,2009 4:41pm
Salvia (20x+), when done with a torch lighter ist pretty cool. It's not weed or any other thing like that, but it's a great feeling if done correctly.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 18,2009 4:43pm
i've done 20 and 30 and 60 and used a torch every time. I've done em through little pipes and big bongs. I just plain didn't like it. Which if you know me, the fact that i didn't enjoy this drug is startling. I won't do them all anymore, but that doesn't mean that they all don't have a place in my heart.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Feb 18,2009 4:48pm
Were you alone?



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Feb 18,2009 4:50pm
I'm siding with Jim in this argument.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 18,2009 4:54pm
was i alone? you realize i just was talking about doing it dozens of times.... so yes sometimes i was alone, and sometimes i wasn't...... i kinda preferred not alone because then i wouldn't hurt anyone. I know it seems strange for me to do it so many times, but it was a hallucinogen I could but at Buried Treasures by Berklee. So it was so easy to get, i WANTED to like it. just didn't



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Feb 18,2009 4:55pm
are you alone right now?
what are you wearing? take it off.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 18,2009 4:56pm
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
I'm siding with Jim in this argument.



wait... which one? OH, YOU SO FUNNY!



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Feb 18,2009 5:01pm
Savlia is not AWESOME, but I never had a bad experience with it. My friends always talk down about it saying it doesn't co crap.
urbanshamen knows his stuff though.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 18,2009 5:22pm
oh it def does stuff. just stuff i don't like.



toggletoggle post by MikeOvDecrepitvde at Feb 18,2009 7:38pm
Jim, I grew up in Southie. In fact, I just returned home from there about 5 minutes ago. Small world (except when you're undergoing a DMT experience).



toggletoggle post by MikeOvDecrepitvde at Feb 18,2009 7:41pm
Oh and agreed that higher Salvia extracts produce darker psychedelic journey's. I can recall one time feeling like my body was being sliced up like deli-meat and spread across the room, in a circular fashion. Everything felt wrong, anxiety was triggered, but from what I can recall, I had a very enlightening afterglow.



toggletoggle post by blue  at Feb 18,2009 10:57pm
WTF drug science

SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY GAI



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 18,2009 11:30pm
haha, these some trips you would never forget blue. If you'd ever take shrooms, you should let me be your shaman for a bit...



toggletoggle post by blue  at Feb 18,2009 11:38pm
you can be my shaman any day you'd like. the fungi is strong with me.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 18,2009 11:40pm
nice.. What evenings do you get off? Do you ever have a whole day off (morning till early evening)



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Feb 19,2009 7:52am
Jim can show you some sick gravity blasts on the bongos.



toggletoggle post by MikeofdecrepitudE at Feb 19,2009 8:45am
I wouldn't recommend tripping out on DMT unless you want your perspective on reality to be radically altered.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 19,2009 9:08am
I agree with Mike, but i think that altered perspective is a really good thing.



toggletoggle post by MikeofdecrepitudE at Feb 19,2009 9:14am
It's definitely a positive thing. I believe that entheogenic experiences can teach one how to live life properly. Sometimes it's even a good not to really know the full extent of what you're getting yourself into. In fact, it might be easier for someone having never tried something like ayahuasca, to start off with a heroic dose. The more you enter those realms on a frequent basis, especially at higher doses, the more you're setting yourself up to enter uncharted and even unwelcomed territory. That's when it becomes more of a challenge.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 19,2009 9:31am
ya, it definately hasn't gotten easier to take heroic doses.. I dunno if it's gotten harder though. Huasca did re-teach me how to live my life. Before I started huasca my priorities were drugs, getting fucked up, and pussy. Which all aren't bad things, but when you throw everything else by the wayside.. anyways, huasca showed me the err in my ways, and i changed. I started playing drums 3-5hours a day, and i haven't stop doing that since.



toggletoggle post by darkwor  at Feb 19,2009 9:34am
Some weekend coming up I'd like to try a psychoactive drug.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 19,2009 9:35am
REALLY!!??



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Feb 19,2009 9:36am
back'd



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 19,2009 9:36am
Which one you wanna try?
I would recommend (and already have)
Mescaline
DMT
LSA



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 19,2009 10:08am
Jon- It would make my month to trip with you. I think you should try LSA. It's like LSDs' bro that has a slightly more sedative feel. Aka, it's much chiller while still having the whole psychedelic experience.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Feb 19,2009 10:10am
My friend's got a packet of seeds (can't remember the plant name) but he doesn't want them.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 19,2009 10:14am
i do. get them fo me, i trade buds. well, find out what they are, but if they're trippy related, they're probobly either Hawaiian Baby woodrose, or morning glory, or voagna africana, which are all LSA carriers.



toggletoggle post by darkwor  at Feb 19,2009 10:17am
I'd be down for trying a small amount of DMT, I'm very interested in the effects. Will you be my shaman Jim? hahah



toggletoggle post by darkwor  at Feb 19,2009 10:19am
I don't know much about LSA, but that sounds pretty nice. If it would make your month, well that makes me feel even better about it.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 19,2009 10:20am
absolutely. I would do either/both with ya, how's next weekend?



toggletoggle post by darkwor  at Feb 19,2009 10:25am
28th sounds great, looking forward to tripping, never thought I'd say that.



toggletoggle post by W3 @ work at Feb 19,2009 10:27am
why hasnt anyone posted hypno-toad yet?

fucking what is this amateur hour




toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Feb 19,2009 10:32am
Toads are wicked pissed.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 19,2009 10:40am
this thread started with toads.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 19,2009 10:41am
Jon, could you do next friday? I am supposed to brew/play a show saturday. If not, sunday daytime would work good.



toggletoggle post by NOT A COP at Feb 19,2009 10:49am
Hi I would like to join in on all the activities as well. Could you please give me your address?



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 19,2009 10:52am
ha. I buy 100% legal products my not a cop. Products that are not for human consumption. We only talk about it in these ways because this is a make believe forum. It's a given that whatever anyone talks about one here is a load of shit. do drugs.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 19,2009 10:55am
INJECT IT INTO YOUR DICK OR YOU ARE A PUSSY



toggletoggle post by NOT THE DEA at Feb 19,2009 10:55am
ADDRESS PLEASE!



toggletoggle post by W3 @ work at Feb 19,2009 10:57am
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
INJECT IT INTO YOUR DICK OR YOU ARE A PUSSY


ok that made LOLz



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 19,2009 10:58am
I don't really mind needles rev, but i choose not to use them on myself due to obvious risks.




toggletoggle post by darkwor  at Feb 19,2009 11:26am
yea jim i can leave next friday afternoon.
and RTTP is not admissible in any court of law folks



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 19,2009 11:31am
sweet, i will have some brew ready man. You gonna get raped... i mean, you gonna love it. hehe, jk.



toggletoggle post by darkwor  at Feb 19,2009 11:33am
ahahahh...second thoughts!



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Feb 19,2009 11:34am
just joking. your gonna love it, i promise you cannot imagine how great a time you'll have.



toggletoggle post by W3 @ work at Feb 19,2009 11:41am
I've seen movies that start this way.



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