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returntothepit >> discuss >> Cake request for 3-year-old Hitler namesake denied by zyklon on Dec 16,2008 9:00pm
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toggletoggle post by zyklon at Dec 16,2008 9:00pm
EASTON, Pa. – The father of 3-year-old Adolf Hitler Campbell, denied a birthday cake with the child's full name on it by one New Jersey supermarket, is asking for a little tolerance. Heath Campbell and his wife, Deborah, are upset not only with the decision made by the Greenwich ShopRite, but with an outpouring of angry Internet postings in response to a local newspaper article over the weekend on their flare-up over frosting.

"I think people need to take their heads out of the cloud they've been in and start focusing on the future and not on the past," Heath Campbell said Tuesday in an interview conducted in Easton, on the other side of the Delaware River from where the family lives in Hunterdon County, N.J.

"There's a new president and he says it's time for a change; well, then it's time for a change," the 35-year-old continued. "They need to accept a name. A name's a name. The kid isn't going to grow up and do what (Hitler) did."

Deborah Campbell, 25, said she phoned in her order last week to the ShopRite. When she told the bakery department she wanted her son's name spelled out, she was told to talk to a supervisor, who denied the request.

A store manager at ShopRite referred questions to a corporate spokeswoman who did not immediately return a phone message Tuesday. But spokeswoman Karen Meleta told The Easton Express-Times for Sunday's editions that the store considered Campbell's request inappropriate.

The Campbells ultimately got their cake decorated at a Wal-Mart in Pennsylvania, Deborah Campbell said. About 12 people attended the birthday party on Sunday, including several children who were of mixed race, according to Heath Campbell.

"If we're so racist, then why would I have them come into my home?" he asked.

The Campbells' other two children also have unusual names: JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell turns 2 in a few months and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell will be 1 in April.

Heath Campbell said he named his son after Adolf Hitler because he liked the name and because "no one else in the world would have that name." He sounded surprised by all the controversy the dispute had generated.

Campbell said his ancestors are German and that he has lived his entire life in Hunterdon County. On Tuesday he wore a pair of black boots he said were worn by a German soldier during World War II.

He said he was raised not to avoid people of other races but not to mix with them socially or romantically. But he said he would try to raise his children differently.

"Say he grows up and hangs out with black people. That's fine, I don't really care," he said. "That's his choice."



toggletoggle post by yummy at Dec 16,2008 9:07pm
Although, somewhat of a repost it does open up more room for discussion after reading this.



toggletoggle post by Samantha at Dec 17,2008 1:05am
Why would you name your kid that? Seriously. What is going to happen to that kid once he starts school?



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Dec 17,2008 7:07am
I know, he will beat up all the jews in schools, jeez, some people.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Dec 17,2008 8:46am
Samantha said[orig][quote]
Why would you name your kid that? Seriously. What is going to happen to that kid once he starts school?


Pfft. That kid will be home schooled for the next 15 years. He won't know there's anything fucked up about his name until years later when he goes to buy a cake for his son Ihateniggers Campbell.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 17,2008 9:58am
oh, ok, they're not racists.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Dec 17,2008 2:36pm
i agree that the names are fucked up.
but.... if we are expected to accept that our president has a middle name that is associated muslim extremism, and....of course....saddam, then we should except that this guy named his kids what he named them, but isn't racist.

seems hypocritical and retarded to slam one and defend the other



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Dec 17,2008 2:38pm
because I'm sure that Barack Obama was named after Saddam Hussein in 1961

you really don't see the difference?



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Dec 17,2008 2:47pm
no....obviously he wasn't named after saddam.
but you can not deny ties between a name like hussein, and muslims



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Dec 17,2008 2:50pm
right, but his father was muslim. So there's really no denying why that was a relevant choice



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Dec 17,2008 2:51pm
ok.....but why are we to assume that this german dude is a racist (and not just brought up racists and a little mixed up/misguided), but we are supposed to swallow that Obama is in now way, shape or form Muslim or tied to their beliefs/agenda?



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Dec 17,2008 2:52pm
no way that was



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Dec 17,2008 2:53pm
to say that the name "Hussein" in 1961 was as ridiculous as naming your kid "Adolf Hitler" or "Aryan Nation" in 2006-2007 is just laughable, dude.

Not comparable.



toggletoggle post by MikeofDecrepitude at Dec 17,2008 2:56pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
i agree that the names are fucked up.
but.... if we are expected to accept that our president has a middle name that is associated muslim extremism, and....of course....saddam, then we should except that this guy named his kids what he named them, but isn't racist.

seems hypocritical and retarded to slam one and defend the other


The photo that was taken of that guy holding his son looks like they live in a clean, habitable environment. How many kid's are born into this world without fathers, or with parents who could give a shit less about taking care of their children? I'm not saying that the names are particularly clever, but to make a point; P.C. individuals are quick to demonize so called "racists", yet they fail to see the hypocrisy in their hatred for people who's views are not in sync with their own. Anti-Fascists are just as fascist as National Socialists.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Dec 17,2008 2:56pm
you are either missing....or intentionally circling around.
people don't think about when Obama was born....they just hear "Hussein" and they think "Middle East" "Muslim" "Saddam" etc.

just like when people hear hitler, they think "holocaust"



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Dec 17,2008 2:57pm
I'm not saying that there's any proof that this guy is a racist, by the way.

But I think he's absolutely retarded and doesn't care about the future of his kids having to carry around such retarded names.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Dec 17,2008 2:58pm
MikeofDecrepitude said[orig][quote]
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
i agree that the names are fucked up.
but.... if we are expected to accept that our president has a middle name that is associated muslim extremism, and....of course....saddam, then we should except that this guy named his kids what he named them, but isn't racist.

seems hypocritical and retarded to slam one and defend the other


The photo that was taken of that guy holding his son looks like they live in a clean, habitable environment. How many kid's are born into this world without fathers, or with parents who could give a shit less about taking care of their children? I'm not saying that the names are particularly clever, but to make a point; P.C. individuals are quick to demonize so called "racists", yet they fail to see the hypocrisy in their hatred for people who's views are not in sync with their own. Anti-Fascists are just as fascist as National Socialists.


that is a brilliant view point sir.
probably the smartest thing i have seen written in the history of rttp



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Dec 17,2008 2:58pm
[Dec 17,2008 2:56pm - orgymf@work ]
you are either missing....or intentionally circling around.
people don't think about when Obama was born....they just hear "Hussein" and they think "Middle East" "Muslim" "Saddam" etc.

just like when people hear hitler, they think "holocaust"


I'm not circling around anything. It's completely irrelevant what people think of. I'm demonizing the dwarf-brained father who actually intentionally associated his children with names that even he agrees are symbols related to "bad people"



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Dec 17,2008 3:01pm
brian_dc said[orig][quote]
I'm not saying that there's any proof that this guy is a racist, by the way.

But I think he's absolutely retarded and doesn't care about the future of his kids having to carry around such retarded names.


and i'm just saying that being upset by the president having a muslim sounding name (and by the way....i am not one of those people who believe he is muslim.....i just hate the left and the right, but enjoy playing devil's advocate for the right when the left get too snooty/annoying) is no more ridiculous than being upset by this dude naming his kids after a gay dude with one nut that killed jews



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Dec 17,2008 3:04pm
I just don't see any connection relevant enough to merit comparison. There are names involved...that's all I've got.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Dec 17,2008 3:07pm
and I'm just saying the reason it's not comparable is because people are upset that these kids were willfully given names that were known to be associated to pariahs. Whereas, Obama was given a stock Muslim name that later became associated to an asshole.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Dec 17,2008 3:08pm
people who are upset about Obama's middle name being associated to Islam have a different sort of outrage. IMO



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Dec 17,2008 3:08pm
brian_dc said[orig][quote]
and I'm just saying the reason it's not comparable is because people are upset that these kids were willfully given names that were known to be associated to pariahs. Whereas, Obama was given a stock Muslim name that later became associated to an asshole.


regardless of the reasons, the names, and the time frames, neither is more ridiculous than the other.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Dec 17,2008 3:09pm
LOL



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Dec 17,2008 3:10pm
LickOrificeLater?



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Dec 17,2008 3:15pm
Here's why Obama's middle name is no comparison to this kid's name, the other kids are named JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell. The father is obviously a racist permenantly projecting his beliefs on his kids, while Obama's parents just happened to name him after someone who wasn't under power at the time he was born.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Dec 17,2008 3:19pm
does not matter.
the point you are missing, is that obama haters see the two as tied together.
this guy said he was raised to love his german roots, and not mix race....obviously, he was raised by racists.
but that doesn't mean he is racist, maybe those names/words have a personal effect on him that deal with a relationship he had with his dad.....who is to say otherwise?

assuming he is racist is just as ignorant as saying obama is a muslim



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Dec 17,2008 3:19pm
dude, didn't you hear. Historical context doesn't count?

sheesh, get with the times.



toggletoggle post by MikeofDecrepitude at Dec 17,2008 3:19pm
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
permenantly projecting his beliefs on his kids


We all know he's the first person in history to do something like that. Would there be as much of an outcry if someone included the name "Mao" or "Stalin" in their children's names? How about Charlemagne, or Karl, if you prefer?



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Dec 17,2008 3:21pm
in the context of people making assumptions about a person just through their name....
no, the history has nothing to do with it....if it did, rumors of him being a muslim would not have come to exist in the first place.

nice internet sarcasm sweetie



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Dec 17,2008 3:23pm
MikeofDecrepitude said[orig][quote]
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
permenantly projecting his beliefs on his kids


We all know he's the first person in history to do something like that. Would there be as much of an outcry if someone included the name "Mao" or "Stalin" in their children's names? How about Charlemagne, or Karl, if you prefer?


at least i'm not the only one here who doesn't swallow every bit of bullshit fed to the american public by left wing media/special interest groups



toggletoggle post by MikeofDecrepitude at Dec 17,2008 3:25pm
I'm just being objective, you know? It really does beg the question.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Dec 17,2008 3:25pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
does not matter.
the point you are missing, is that obama haters see the two as tied together.
this guy said he was raised to love his german roots, and not mix race....obviously, he was raised by racists.
but that doesn't mean he is racist, maybe those names/words have a personal effect on him that deal with a relationship he had with his dad.....who is to say otherwise?

assuming he is racist is just as ignorant as saying obama is a muslim


I would agree if Aryan Nation wasn't used as a name. That kind of changes it, at least IMO.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Dec 17,2008 3:26pm
MikeofDecrepitude said[orig][quote]
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
permenantly projecting his beliefs on his kids


We all know he's the first person in history to do something like that. Would there be as much of an outcry if someone included the name "Mao" or "Stalin" in their children's names? How about Charlemagne, or Karl, if you prefer?


Where did I say he was the first? Just because it's been done, doesn't make it any more or less suspect.



toggletoggle post by Murph  at Dec 17,2008 3:26pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
brian_dc said[orig][quote]
and I'm just saying the reason it's not comparable is because people are upset that these kids were willfully given names that were known to be associated to pariahs. Whereas, Obama was given a stock Muslim name that later became associated to an asshole.


regardless of the reasons, the names, and the time frames, neither is more ridiculous than the other.


So, just because both names can elicit some sort of negative response means they are both equally "ridiculous?"

Well first off, that negates motivation, which is an essential choice when looking at this from a categorical stance. ie, why the NAMING, not the NAME is ridiculous. Obviously, the father of Adolf Hitler and Aryan Nation is more ridiculous, based on hindsight and common knowledge alone.

Secondly, I agree that some people could be put off by both, as someone whose family member has died at the hands of extremist Islam probably has some emotion tied to the same vein as someone who went through or lost family to the Holocaust. But, to be critical and not fall to supposition, Hussein is, as Brian said, a stock name, and therefore anyone tying a particular worth to that name as being historically significant and therefore a signifier of intent/agenda is biased, as it denotes a culture, not a political agenda.

The name Adolf Hitler is subscribed not just in a German context, but in a National Socialist context. The name is, therefore, no longer part of the same bland cultural narrative that a name like Hussein, or my name, Murphy, is part of: it becomes part of the troubling with proper names and the basic understanding of history and identity as rational (I don't want to get into a political debate about Nazism compared to other ideals...its not about that, its about the role of one person in a party who was essentially immoral).

Even if the dad just wanted the name because "no one else would do it" the name is more ridiculous in its fracturing from social norm (as if Obama's middle name was "Saddamn Hussein" or "King Hussein" denoting a particular connotation).

Which means, in closing, that conception, even if popular or a majority, is not static and ground. While the names may be troubling to some, or exalted to others, a proper name, assuming a prior identity, is more ridiculous than a cultural name, regardless of the historical figure's perceived role as "good" or "bad" (which is a binary I hate to use because it is limiting and subjective) because it elicts a more particular response.

Just because some people don't reason the same way, does not make the rest of us buy into cop out philosophy.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Dec 17,2008 3:32pm
let me put this in the shortest most simplistic way possible.
first, you have no idea what his motivations were, and therefor have no more right judging him than Obama's dad.

second, it is no more ridiculous for someone to be outraged that a man that will be running this country having a name associated with muslims than it is to be outraged that some nobody from PA has any name.



toggletoggle post by MikeofDecrepitude at Dec 17,2008 3:35pm
Rusty, I was just being sarcastic, that's all. I just believe a majority of parents are guilty of that accusation, you know?



toggletoggle post by Murph  at Dec 17,2008 3:36pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
let me put this in the shortest most simplistic way possible.
first, you have no idea what his motivations were, and therefor have no more right judging him than Obama's dad.

second, it is no more ridiculous for someone to be outraged that a man that will be running this country having a name associated with muslims than it is to be outraged that some nobody from PA has any name.


Just because you say it, doesn't make it true.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Dec 17,2008 3:40pm
MikeofDecrepitude said[orig][quote]
Rusty, I was just being sarcastic, that's all. I just believe a majority of parents are guilty of that accusation, you know?


That's fine.

If the kid's name was just Adolf, or just Hitler, I'd be right there with you, but Adolf Hitler together, coupled with the other kids' names, makes the parents' intentions rather fishy IMO.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Dec 17,2008 3:43pm
Murph said[orig][quote]
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
let me put this in the shortest most simplistic way possible.
first, you have no idea what his motivations were, and therefor have no more right judging him than Obama's dad.

second, it is no more ridiculous for someone to be outraged that a man that will be running this country having a name associated with muslims than it is to be outraged that some nobody from PA has any name.


Just because you say it, doesn't make it true.


and just because you disagree doesn't make it untrue



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Dec 17,2008 3:44pm
Bottom line: a good majority of people will judge anyone and everyone they meet that has a name they're not used to hearing or at least not hearing in a positive context.



toggletoggle post by Murph  at Dec 17,2008 3:47pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
Murph said[orig][quote]
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
let me put this in the shortest most simplistic way possible.
first, you have no idea what his motivations were, and therefor have no more right judging him than Obama's dad.

second, it is no more ridiculous for someone to be outraged that a man that will be running this country having a name associated with muslims than it is to be outraged that some nobody from PA has any name.


Just because you say it, doesn't make it true.


and just because you disagree doesn't make it untrue


I've got Georg Lukacs and Lyotard on my side.

Who's on yours?



toggletoggle post by MikeofDecrepitude at Dec 17,2008 3:47pm
I hear you. I do agree that their children will be subjected to much ridicule by others. Hitler is easily the most hated man in the history of the world, not Bin Laden, so this kid is definitely in for it.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Dec 17,2008 3:57pm edited Dec 17,2008 3:57pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]

second, it is no more ridiculous for someone to be outraged that a man that will be running this country having a name associated with muslims than it is to be outraged that some nobody from PA has any name.


So what if Obama really is a Muslim. Last time I checked we have the freedom of religion in this country. And just being a muslim does not make you a bad person.



toggletoggle post by MikeofDecrepitude at Dec 17,2008 3:58pm edited Dec 17,2008 3:58pm
We have freedom of speech as well. I don't know about the Netherlands though.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Dec 17,2008 4:05pm
I don't know what that has to do with anything, but hey! an article!

http://michellemalkin.com/2005/01/31/musli...-vs-free-speech-in-the-netherlands/



toggletoggle post by MikeofDecrepitude at Dec 17,2008 4:09pm
I just felt like throwing a curve ball in there


..............



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Dec 17,2008 4:10pm
I'd never argue with the guy's right to name his children what he named them. That's his right. He is, however, knowingly putting his children in a crappy situation to have to live with those names. It's unfortunate.

I'd never argue with your right to hold your opinion. I will, however, hope that you'd be willing to debate that view. No one is asking for anyone to apologize for their perspective.

However, some opinions can be more or less educated with facts. Some opinions are greater than others.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Dec 17,2008 4:12pm
haha...

well for the record. I do believe that The Netherlands does have free speech. But it seems they have issues similar to what we have here in America when it comes to censorship subverting presumed rights.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Dec 17,2008 4:13pm
FREE SPEACH FOR THE DUMB! FOR THE DUMB! FOR THE DUMB!



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Dec 18,2008 9:12am
Murph said[orig][quote]
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
Murph said[orig][quote]
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
let me put this in the shortest most simplistic way possible.
first, you have no idea what his motivations were, and therefor have no more right judging him than Obama's dad.

second, it is no more ridiculous for someone to be outraged that a man that will be running this country having a name associated with muslims than it is to be outraged that some nobody from PA has any name.


Just because you say it, doesn't make it true.


and just because you disagree doesn't make it untrue


I've got Georg Lukacs and Lyotard on my side.

Who's on yours?

my left nut, jupiter, the ghost of freddy mercury and food fortunata



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Dec 18,2008 9:14am
FuckIsMySignature said[orig][quote]
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]

second, it is no more ridiculous for someone to be outraged that a man that will be running this country having a name associated with muslims than it is to be outraged that some nobody from PA has any name.


So what if Obama really is a Muslim. Last time I checked we have the freedom of religion in this country. And just being a muslim does not make you a bad person.


muslims in general.....eh....not exactly "America Friendly"
yes, he is free to practice whatever religion he wants, but i for one find the premise of a muslim president terrifying.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Dec 18,2008 9:15am
brian_dc said[orig][quote]
I'd never argue with the guy's right to name his children what he named them. That's his right. He is, however, knowingly putting his children in a crappy situation to have to live with those names. It's unfortunate.

I'd never argue with your right to hold your opinion. I will, however, hope that you'd be willing to debate that view. No one is asking for anyone to apologize for their perspective.

However, some opinions can be more or less educated with facts. Some opinions are greater than others.


my nut hairs are greater than yours.
care to compare?



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Dec 18,2008 9:16am
MarkFuckingRichards said[orig][quote]
Bottom line: a good majority of people will judge anyone and everyone they meet that has a name they're not used to hearing or at least not hearing in a positive context.


MarkTheVoiceOfReasonRichards
-l-



toggletoggle post by MikeofDecrepitude at Dec 18,2008 9:23am
HAIL



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Dec 18,2008 9:30am
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
MarkFuckingRichards said[orig][quote]
Bottom line: a good majority of people will judge anyone and everyone they meet that has a name they're not used to hearing or at least not hearing in a positive context.


MarkTheVoiceOfReasonRichards
-l-


I do what I can sir. I provide RTTP with all of life's important answers, like how to shit a lot.



toggletoggle post by MikeofDecrepitude at Dec 18,2008 9:34am
If I have a son, I'll be sure to name him George Walker Bush. We wouldn't want little Adolf Hitler Campbell to feel alone in this world.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Dec 18,2008 9:40am
You know, well before Dane Cook had to steal my fucking thunder, I wanted a kid SOLELY to name him Optimus Prime. That kid would have been brutal, but now I'm not going to have any kids because that faggot had to write a joke about the one name I'd actually give to a child. If for some reason I get some lucky lady knocked up and I can't successfully push her down the stairs or jam a coathanger in the right place, the child will receive NO NAME.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Dec 18,2008 9:52am
MarkFuckingRichards said[orig][quote]
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
MarkFuckingRichards said[orig][quote]
Bottom line: a good majority of people will judge anyone and everyone they meet that has a name they're not used to hearing or at least not hearing in a positive context.


MarkTheVoiceOfReasonRichards
-l-


I do what I can sir. I provide RTTP with all of life's important answers, like how to shit a lot.


ahhh!!!
i didn't even get to buy that tea last night!
i spent three hours workin on my car in the parking lot at my job last night, before giving up on figuring out what the fuck was wrong with it and callin a tow truck.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Dec 18,2008 9:55am
My penis is awesome!



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Dec 18,2008 10:20am
This is the new dumbest thread ever. Congrats, George.




toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Dec 18,2008 10:25am
And I am assuming that George fooled you all into thinking that he really believes that someone who named his kids Adolf Hitler and Aryan Nation is just some regular guy who loves black people and thinks jew are just dandy.

BTW Saddam was anything but a muslim extremist. Extremest, sure. But he was about as Muslim as I am christian. He was hated by people like Bin Laden for being too secular. The guy just liked to kill people. He killed ar more muslims than any other religion. I associate terrorism with names like Bin Laden and Al Zawahiri (however the fuck its spelled)
"Hussein" just makes me think of athletes getting tortured and kurds starving to death.





toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Dec 18,2008 10:29am



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Dec 18,2008 10:31am



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Dec 18,2008 12:50pm
MarkFuckingRichards said[orig][quote]
You know, well before Dane Cook had to steal my fucking thunder, I wanted a kid SOLELY to name him Optimus Prime. That kid would have been brutal, but now I'm not going to have any kids because that faggot had to write a joke about the one name I'd actually give to a child. If for some reason I get some lucky lady knocked up and I can't successfully push her down the stairs or jam a coathanger in the right place, the child will receive NO NAME.


Just anme the kid No Name Richards....first name No, middle name Name



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Dec 18,2008 1:08pm
I'd rather father a child that never knows what to respond to.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Dec 18,2008 1:14pm
Jack Frober Richards



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Dec 18,2008 2:01pm
Josh_Martin said[orig][quote]
This is the new dumbest thread ever. Congrats, George.



thanks.

oh wait.....am i supposed to be insulted by that?

josh, how dare you!?!?!?!




toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Dec 18,2008 2:02pm
SkinSandwich said[orig][quote]
My penis is awesome!

wanna have a sword fight?



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Dec 18,2008 2:08pm
Josh_Martin said[orig][quote]
And I am assuming that George fooled you all into thinking that he really believes that someone who named his kids Adolf Hitler and Aryan Nation is just some regular guy who loves black people and thinks jew are just dandy.

BTW Saddam was anything but a muslim extremist. Extremest, sure. But he was about as Muslim as I am christian. He was hated by people like Bin Laden for being too secular. The guy just liked to kill people. He killed ar more muslims than any other religion. I associate terrorism with names like Bin Laden and Al Zawahiri (however the fuck its spelled)
"Hussein" just makes me think of athletes getting tortured and kurds starving to death.




i don't think he loves blacks and jews. i just don't think he is a racist.
rasied by a racist....yep.....misguided....uh-huh.... but not racist

regardless of how you break down what Saddam was.... people are going to make that association, and it makes them nervous and it's no more ridiculous than this situation.



toggletoggle post by MikeofDecrepitude at Dec 18,2008 2:10pm
Yeti said[orig][quote]
Jack Frober Richards


Hey now, watch it....

That's offensive



toggletoggle post by jacksonmang at Dec 18,2008 2:13pm
hitler enjoyed penis popsicles




toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Dec 18,2008 2:26pm
Jack Fucking Frober Richards has a ring to it.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Dec 18,2008 3:29pm
DENIED!!!



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Dec 18,2008 3:43pm
Glad to hear that Mr. Campbell is so in touch with his German roots. No, wait...



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Dec 18,2008 4:20pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
Josh_Martin said[orig][quote]
And I am assuming that George fooled you all into thinking that he really believes that someone who named his kids Adolf Hitler and Aryan Nation is just some regular guy who loves black people and thinks jew are just dandy.

BTW Saddam was anything but a muslim extremist. Extremest, sure. But he was about as Muslim as I am christian. He was hated by people like Bin Laden for being too secular. The guy just liked to kill people. He killed ar more muslims than any other religion. I associate terrorism with names like Bin Laden and Al Zawahiri (however the fuck its spelled)
"Hussein" just makes me think of athletes getting tortured and kurds starving to death.




i don't think he loves blacks and jews. i just don't think he is a racist.
rasied by a racist....yep.....misguided....uh-huh.... but not racist

regardless of how you break down what Saddam was.... people are going to make that association, and it makes them nervous and it's no more ridiculous than this situation.


Dude, I'm not falling for it. Good job fucking with everyone else though.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Dec 18,2008 7:02pm
Hahahahahaha....I was born in Easton, PA.



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