the new download is a live recording at the middle east on nov 3rd. some of the songs were to be on the new recording that will never be. there are new bands in the works now and thanks to everyone who came to shows and gave something. .:shallows and flats:.

go to http://www.hxcmp3.com/bands/1586/ to hear the set.

why did you guys break up?

we wanted different things.

good band. good good band.

let me guess..
someone wanted to get serious and told the other that they loved them and wanted to spend teh reast of their lives with them...
and the other one got scared and dumped them.
I saw that on some sitcom.. well.. every sitcom ever invented did that same story line.

good guess

well if ya'll need a vocalists for any of ur new bands, im available, i used to sing for envelope. ugh ya
bitterlowz@aol.com

can i just say i think that fucking blows. you guys were nutsy to watch. i know derek is doing black my heart, but what is mark doing now? that kid is such a drumming machine, definetly one of the coolest drummers ive ever seen. good luck on whatever you guys decide to do, and keep us updated.

"God, stop singing!!"
that must have been frodo.
i heard he was piss drunk and hated you guys.
when i heard he was there i had hoped maybe he was a metalhead.
but my friend told me his friends band was playing and thats why he was there.
I thought that was an awesome show, and unfortunatly it was the only one i ever saw.
sucks.
but now i have an mp3 of it.

derek, mike from kid eternal, and i are starting up something else. we're still looing for another guitrist and a vocalist.

whoah whoah whoah... mike wessel?

thats the one

I went to high school with him.
small world

last I knew, he was doing something ultra-math

thats random, he is playing in another band. i think its just him and someone else and they dont play shows.

is the singer from shallows and flats starting anything new, jesus christ that kid had some gross vocals.

tears of avarel reunion *cough*

seconded*cough*

thirded.*.*

fourtheded *!*

*fifthed*