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returntothepit >> discuss >> ...and Justice for All with the bass in by DestroyYouAlot on Jul 18,2007 12:47pm
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toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jul 18,2007 12:47pm
Does anybody have a link or a torrent for that "...and Justice" remix I keep hearing about? I'm dying to check it out.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jul 18,2007 12:49pm
never heard of this... sounds intriguing.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Jul 18,2007 1:27pm
huh? Was there no bass on this album prior?



toggletoggle post by Cav at Jul 18,2007 1:28pm
haha. i remember listening to metallica back in the day and going "where the fuck is the bass" and asking punk kids on my bus why bands even have bass players.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jul 18,2007 1:30pm
this is news to me.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jul 18,2007 1:33pm
GB2 GAIA



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Jul 18,2007 1:35pm
This threads reads like the fucking Necronomicon in its original tongue



toggletoggle post by Sinistas   at Jul 18,2007 1:37pm
it's called ...And Justice For Jason, it's the only version I listen to.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Jul 18,2007 1:39pm
then hook us up with that shit if you got it, beeeeaaaaattttccchhh



toggletoggle post by TheAccursedDrummer  at Jul 18,2007 1:48pm
There are some individual tracks still available for download here...
Jasonizer

I'm still looking for the full album download. I got it as a torrent, so I'm checking for a Rapidshare or Megaupload link or something. Worst case, I'll look through all of my mp3 discs for it and upload it & post it myself.



toggletoggle post by yummy at Jul 18,2007 1:48pm
wouldn't mind hearing that!



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jul 18,2007 2:15pm
Supposedly here on eBay, but I'm a little leery of this auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Metallica-And-Justice-...QihZ018QQcategoryZ307QQcmdZViewItem



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jul 18,2007 2:21pm
i'm sure its just some dude who mixed in his own bassline. still interested in hearing it though



toggletoggle post by thegreatspaldino   at Jul 18,2007 2:53pm
DestroyYouAlot said:
Supposedly here on eBay, but I'm a little leery of this auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Metallica-And-Justice-...QihZ018QQcategoryZ307QQcmdZViewItem


that guy is a douchebag and is charging about 15x what he paid to put together internet downloads, print out a booklet, put a label on a cd and burn it. what an asshole. no life til leather demo RARE!!!... he probably has the halford/sabbath live show bootleg for sale too.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead is watching you at Jul 18,2007 6:56pm
There IS bass on ANd justice for all. It's not that it's turned down, missing, or any other such conspiracy. It's just that in their quest for a heavy, heavy guitar tone they left little bandwith for the bass tracks. Instead of buying some crap off ebay, or downloading the And Justice for Jason (Which is actually some 17 year old kid putting his own bass tracks over the songs), try just tweaking your EQ. The bass is there, it just shares it's most prominent frequencies with the guitars.



toggletoggle post by rhys  at Jul 18,2007 7:20pm
i saw an interview that said james and lars weren't confident with his bass parts so they turned it down til it was barely audible and then they turned it down half a decibel



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jul 18,2007 11:52pm edited Jul 18,2007 11:52pm
Interestingly enough, I randomly stumbled across a DVD copy of Cliff'em All today for 8 bucks.

Man. Makes me fucking sad, on two levels - first, 'cause Cliff was such an amazing talent (as much for his songwriting ability as his bass playing, if not more), and he was just snuffed out in his prime. Second, seeing Metallica when they still had it is weird; I got so used to them sucking. After Cliff died, they were finished - "... and Justice" was an amazing last gasp, but that's all they had in'em. Fin.



toggletoggle post by boine at Jul 19,2007 12:01am
they need more footage with them and dave playing together



toggletoggle post by the_revealer at Jul 19,2007 12:06am
And Justice For Jason http://www.desubicados.cl/foros/showthread.php?t=630

The link right underneath the Nirvana album.



toggletoggle post by the_revealer at Jul 19,2007 12:09am
I'm digging this actually.



toggletoggle post by yummy at Jul 19,2007 12:14am
much better!



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jul 19,2007 12:18am
the_revealer said:
And Justice For Jason http://www.desubicados.cl/foros/showthread.php?t=630

The link right underneath the Nirvana album.


Fucking SWEET. Thank you.



toggletoggle post by TheAccursedDrummer  at Jul 19,2007 12:30am
Beat me to it. Good job dude!



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jul 19,2007 12:45am
the_revealer said:
I'm digging this actually.


Yeah, it's well-done. Clearly a labor of love.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jul 19,2007 1:01am
OMG, Shortest Straw with the bass in is FUCKING KILLER.



toggletoggle post by Whoremastery  at Jul 19,2007 7:45am
this is so much better...i want to own this!



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Apr 21,2009 12:14am
bump! anyone have this?



toggletoggle post by metalguy2 at Apr 21,2009 12:46pm
It is one of those things that, the bass guitar provides a certain function. And if one can recreate that function in the recording process the bass can in fact be left out of the mix. A bass guitar is for providing the low feq's that a guitar doesn't naturally have by itself. However, since heavy metal guitar provides so much low end in the first play. It gives little room for a bass to operate it's original function. Not only that but the drums don't help at all either. Since the kick drum ends up so tight and punchy it sounds like a bass might as well be playing with it.
I am sure that they could have recorded excellent bass tracks (that copied the guitar lines) that had alot of mid range to stand out. But why would you do that just for the sake of doing it. The recording sounds fine.



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Apr 21,2009 1:07pm edited Apr 21,2009 1:20pm
need to find.



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toggletoggle post by Murph  at Apr 21,2009 2:07pm
Haha, no matter what they do, this album still sounds like absolute dog shit, content-wise, engineering-wise, and production-wise.



toggletoggle post by DYA NLI at Apr 21,2009 2:11pm
Listening now. metalguy is dumb.



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toggletoggle post by Yeti at Apr 21,2009 3:33pm
Murph said[orig][quote]
Haha, no matter what they do, this album still sounds like absolute awesome, content-wise, engineering-wise, and production-wise.



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Apr 21,2009 5:04pm
Riffs the size of mountains.



toggletoggle post by MikeOv... at Apr 21,2009 8:00pm
Murph said[orig][quote]
Haha, no matter what they do, this album still sounds like absolute dog shit, content-wiseQUOTE]

As bad as Metallica has become, even I can't deny the fact that ...And Justice For All is one of the greatest metal albums ever, and a total riff fest. I think I'll put it on now.



toggletoggle post by MikeOv... at Apr 21,2009 8:02pm
Botched quote attempt, oh well. Still not as bad as the nosedive Metallica's musical integrity took.



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Apr 21,2009 8:26pm
Pff. The original had enough bass. It kicks ass either way.



toggletoggle post by BSV at Apr 21,2009 10:19pm
spunds good. you can never have enough bass. i'm skeptical of anyone who doesn't love it loud.



toggletoggle post by Murph  at Apr 21,2009 10:22pm
OFF TO NEVER NEVER YEAH..........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH.



toggletoggle post by DYA NLI at Apr 22,2009 10:03am
So was Hetfield bitten by a werewolf around 1990 or what?



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