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returntothepit >> discuss >> Report: War costing US $12B a month by IMMOLATION on Jul 9,2007 4:45pm
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toggletoggle post by IMMOLATION at Jul 9,2007 4:45pm
WASHINGTON - The boost in troop levels in Iraq has increased the cost of war there and in Afghanistan to $12 billion a month, and the total for Iraq alone is nearing a half-trillion dollars, congressional analysts say.

All told, Congress has appropriated $610 billion in war-related money since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror assaults, roughly the same as the war in Vietnam. Iraq alone has cost $450 billion.

The figures come from the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service, which provides research and analysis to lawmakers.

For the 2007 budget year, CRS says, the $166 billion appropriated to the Pentagon represents a 40 percent increase over 2006.

The Vietnam War, after accounting for inflation, cost taxpayers $650 billion, according to separate CRS estimates.

The $12 billion a month "burn rate" includes $10 billion for Iraq and almost $2 billion for Afghanistan, plus other minor costs. That's higher than Pentagon estimates earlier this year of $10 billion a month for both operations. Two years ago, the average monthly cost was about $8 billion.

Among the reasons for the higher costs is the cost of repairing and replacing equipment worn out in harsh conditions or destroyed in combat.

But the estimates call into question the Pentagon's estimate that the increase in troop strength and intensifying pace of operations in Baghdad and Anbar province would cost only $5.6 billion through the end of September.

If Congress approves President Bush's pending request for another $147 billion for the budget year starting Oct. 1, the total bill for the war on terror since Sept. 11 would reach more than three-fourths of a trillion dollars, with appropriations for Iraq reaching $567 billion.

Also, if the increase in war tempo continues beyond September, the Pentagon's request "would presumably be inadequate," CRS said.

The latest estimates come as support for the war in Iraq among Bush's GOP allies in Congress is beginning to erode. Senior Republicans such as Pete Domenici of New Mexico and Richard Lugar of Indiana have called for a shift in strategy in Iraq and a battle over funding the war will resume in September, when Democrats in Congress begin work on a funding bill for the war.

Congress approved $99 billion in war funding in May after a protracted battle and a Bush veto of an earlier measure over Democrats' attempt to set a timeline for withdrawing U.S. combat troops from Iraq.

The report faults the Pentagon for using the Iraq war as a pretext for boosting the Pentagon's non-war budget by costs such as procurement, increasing the size of the military and procurement of replacement aircraft as war-related items



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jul 9,2007 5:02pm
Damn welfare arms-manufacturing corporations. Why can't they just get a job?



toggletoggle post by Hungtableed at Jul 9,2007 5:08pm
Something tells me a few H-Bombs over theo coarse of a few days would cost far less than $12b/month and would essentially be the end all. The middle east seriously needs to be reduced to glass so that we don't have to worry about stabilizing the area for future generations. Does anyone even think that these fucking savages will ever be a hospitable race? They've been killing each other since about, roughly, 630 ad - since that homo mohammed dies - all they know is to kill, and kill for revenge.



toggletoggle post by deadlikemurf  at Jul 9,2007 5:23pm
they don't wanna blow up the oil.



toggletoggle post by Hungtableed at Jul 9,2007 5:25pm
That's gotta be the reason.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 9,2007 6:40pm
yeah, fuck all those little kids who are asleep in their beds. murder them, that's the american way! I'm pretty sure that the founding fathers wrote that in to the constitution for us to do.



toggletoggle post by hung_to_bleed   at Jul 9,2007 7:24pm
the_reverend said:
yeah, fuck all those little kids who are asleep in their beds. murder them, that's the american way! I'm pretty sure that the founding fathers wrote that in to the constitution for us to do.


You're right, I think it was written into the Constitution. I've been trying to find that Wiki article where I first read it but some Clinton era Democrat must have hijacked it and changed it. It looks like I'm going to have to fix it myself.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jul 9,2007 7:27pm
Those fucks would murder your kids without thinking twice. They fucking invented suicide bombings on busses, you know, where innocent children are present? Why should we me more civil than them? If you can answer that it's admitting that they are animals. Which is more politically correct for the peace loving do-nothings to bitch about? That they are as careless as we are with our bombings an write it off as collateral damage? Or, that they are stupid animals that don't know the difference? It's war. War happens. Do you think that the Romans, the Khan, the Czar or any nation (dictatorship) ever gave a shit about collateral damage? War sucks, hands down, no argument....but to place the blame on your own country, even in a joking manner is downright stupid....unless you have ZERO concept of what war really entails. Sorry, I'm just sick of hearing the peaceniks bitching about collateral damage. End the fucking war....it's time.....that is what we should be bitching about.



toggletoggle post by jimistolazytologin at Jul 9,2007 8:04pm
Hoser said:
Those fucks would murder your kids without thinking twice. They fucking invented suicide bombings on busses, you know, where innocent children are present? Why should we me more civil than them? If you can answer that it's admitting that they are animals. Which is more politically correct for the peace loving do-nothings to bitch about? That they are as careless as we are with our bombings an write it off as collateral damage? Or, that they are stupid animals that don't know the difference? It's war. War happens. Do you think that the Romans, the Khan, the Czar or any nation (dictatorship) ever gave a shit about collateral damage? War sucks, hands down, no argument....but to place the blame on your own country, even in a joking manner is downright stupid....unless you have ZERO concept of what war really entails. Sorry, I'm just sick of hearing the peaceniks bitching about collateral damage. End the fucking war....it's time.....that is what we should be bitching about.



And this just proves why it should of never happened.




toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 9,2007 8:16pm
that's what they are bitching about hoser... "They" are as much animals as we are. and this "they" you talk about is like them saying "they" to us when they really hate our canadian and jew actors. Tell me if the king of england came over here and started pushing you around and killing your family for what you saw as no good reason, wouldn't you do the same? You've said before that you would fight.

we are better than the romans, czars or KHAAAAAAAAAN!!!! cause we care about collateral damage. Fighting this war was as stupid as a lot of the wars we fought in the exact same way. The only way to win a war like this is to get them addicted to our culture. That's how we beat the commies.



toggletoggle post by FleshFries at Jul 9,2007 8:27pm
smell that? Depression pt. 2



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jul 9,2007 8:34pm
the_reverend said:
that's what they are bitching about hoser... "They" are as much animals as we are. and this "they" you talk about is like them saying "they" to us when they really hate our canadian and jew actors. Tell me if the king of england came over here and started pushing you around and killing your family for what you saw as no good reason, wouldn't you do the same? You've said before that you would fight.

we are better than the romans, czars or KHAAAAAAAAAN!!!! cause we care about collateral damage. Fighting this war was as stupid as a lot of the wars we fought in the exact same way. The only way to win a war like this is to get them addicted to our culture. That's how we beat the commies.


I hate Khan as much as Cpt. Kirk, but I think that the Khan would have taken out the Enterprise and all of it's denizens without thinking twice as well. AND....everything is westernized anymore. Our concept of "what is right and humane" is a western concept in itself. Our concept that "collateral damage" is wrong is also a western concept. There is no "softer and gentler" war. Kids die, babies die, old men and women die. It all fucking sucks. It's war.....and war sucks. But if we try to leave now, Nato will throw a shit fit. Since when are countries responsible for rebuilding a country that they blow the shit out of? Out of NATO...that's my opinion. Fuckin' sissies.




toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 9,2007 9:10pm
tell the people of Dubai that. they out western you.



toggletoggle post by IMMOLATION at Jul 9,2007 9:27pm
I'll tell you most Republicans are growing tired of Iraqi leaders of not doing what they say they would, hopefully we pull out before is too late.



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jul 10,2007 12:07am
How about this.

The people running the war aren't Americans. They're business owners, and very smart ones.

Just like the people making medicine are business men, they do it to make money.

If we found a cure for all disease tomorrow...every medicine company in the world would hire mercenary soldiers to destroy or keep the cure hidden

If we could easily have peace. If every enemy of ours said "we will never attack you or your people again"

our leaders would say "no way, kill 'em anyways, more money for us"

MONEY!



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jul 10,2007 12:15am
y_ddraig_goch said:
How about this.

The people running the war aren't Americans. They're business owners, and very smart ones.


That's probably anti-Semitic.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Jul 10,2007 12:19am
Bahahahahahaha, nice one conservationist!!!!





toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Jul 10,2007 12:23am
Zing!!!

Seconded!!!

(PS - viva Iran)



toggletoggle post by CNV at Jul 10,2007 12:24am


Bye bye america, Game over, Game fucking over...



toggletoggle post by CNV at Jul 10,2007 12:31am



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Jul 10,2007 12:33am
oy vey



toggletoggle post by jimistolazytologin at Jul 10,2007 2:58am
CNV said:


to bad he wasnt holding pizza.



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Jul 10,2007 3:00am
We'll make that back in oil and drugs that the government says are OK.



toggletoggle post by thegreatspaldino   at Jul 10,2007 3:04am
jimistolazytologin said:
CNV said:


to bad he wasnt holding pizza.


nah... that would cause an uproar in the metalcore community



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Jul 10,2007 3:07am
they're inspecting the new US / Israeli joint currency to be introduced after we defeat Islam



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Jul 10,2007 3:10am
don't forget the european union!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 10,2007 3:35am
the european union is still around? remind me to shake in my booties.



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Jul 10,2007 3:38am
of course it is...i hear they're trying to revamp it and make tony blair EU president

although, that is under the assumption that all the european countries would be down with that, of course



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