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returntothepit >> discuss >> forrest gump content by anonymous on Jun 25,2007 12:17pm
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toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jun 25,2007 12:17pm
Jenny dies of AIDS right? RIGHT?






sorry, mike.



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Jun 25,2007 12:22pm
AIDS for the win!



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 25,2007 12:49pm
Jenny said the doctor's didn't know what her disease was.

Her tombstone says March 1982

The first diagnosed case of AIDS was in June 1981.

Hence therefore doctor's presumably would have been able to diagnose her with AIDS if she had it.

What really happened was she blew the dude who played Inigo Montoya. Scientists still can't explain it, but it's a death sentence.



toggletoggle post by metal_church101  at Jun 25,2007 12:51pm
"That's all I have to say 'bout that."



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 25,2007 12:54pm
And furthermore, if Jenny had AIDS wouldn't either Forrest or the son have AIDS?



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jun 25,2007 12:57pm
xmikex said:
Jenny said the doctor's didn't know what her disease was.

Her tombstone says March 1982

The first diagnosed case of AIDS was in June 1981.

Hence therefore doctor's presumably would have been able to diagnose her with AIDS if she had it.

What really happened was she blew the dude who played Inigo Montoya. Scientists still can't explain it, but it's a death sentence.


I was gonna disprove this, but never mind - I like your explanation better.



toggletoggle post by moe @ work at Jun 25,2007 1:00pm
xmikex said:
And furthermore, if Jenny had AIDS wouldn't either Forrest or the son have AIDS?



i thought about this too when i first saw the movie...maybe cancer?



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Jun 25,2007 2:01pm
It is AIDS.



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Jun 25,2007 2:08pm edited Jun 25,2007 2:08pm
Goofs for
Forrest Gump (1994)

Continuity: The feather is visible on Forrest's shoe and floating in the air at the same time, when the camera is approximately ten feet above Forrest's head.


Anachronisms: Car tire tracks are visible in the segment remembering Nathan Bedford Forrest's Civil War ties with the KKK. This was a goof present in the original footage which was taken from D.W. Griffith's The Birth of a Nation (1915). The CG team considered removing them, but decided not to.


Continuity: Forrest's hands on the swing ropes when listening to his mother entertain the school inspector.


Continuity: The girl behind Forrest and Jenny on the school bus disappears and reappears between shots.


Continuity: When Forrest sits down to watch TV with his son, the iron behind Jenny changes from being down and sitting up between shots.


Continuity: Forrest leaves the mower with grass in front of it when he goes to meet Jenny. When they cut back to him, the mower is sitting next to the cut grass, not in the middle of it.


Continuity: When Forrest first gets on the school bus, the shots from inside the bus show the driver's hand on the door lever, while shots from the outside show it on the gear shift lever.


Continuity: Bubba's lower lip when he and Forrest are on their way to Vietnam in the helicopter.


Continuity: Bear Bryant stands up to watch Forrest after he was already standing.


Anachronisms: During the 1972 New Year's Eve celebration, Forrest drinks a Dr. Pepper with a logo that wasn't devised until the mid-1980s.


Factual errors: The moon is shown as waxing, almost full, and is lit from the top right; an impossible situation at night.


Anachronisms: During the recreation of the integration of University of Alabama, 1963, a newscaster says "...here by videotape is the encounter..." TV stations didn't use videotape for news reporting in 1963, they used film.


Anachronisms: Jenny dies in March 1982, and yet shows Forrest a clipping from "USA Today" which was first published on 15 September 1982.


Factual errors: Forrest claims that Jenny died on a Saturday, and yet her gravestone says 22 March 1982, which is a Monday.


Anachronisms: The letter from Apple Computer is dated 21 September 1975 (a Sunday), when Apple wasn't a public company open for investment. Apple Computer was not incorporated until 3 January 1977, and didn't become publicly traded until its initial public offering (IPO) on 12 December 1980.


Errors in geography: The woman on the bench in Savannah tells Forrest to go a few blocks ahead to Henry St. though it is actually behind them.


Continuity: Forrest can't run with his braces; he can barely walk. When he and Jenny run to their favorite tree, he is running normally. Yet when the bullies from school chase him on their bikes, he is back to his old gait. It is only after the braces are lost that he runs normally.


Factual errors: When Forrest sits on the bench by the square and the bus passes him, the traffic is going in the wrong direction. In Savannah, traffic goes counter-clockwise round city squares.


Anachronisms: In 1974, one of Forrest's shrimping attempts yields, among other pieces of garbage, a Mello Yello can. Mello Yello was introduced in 1979, and the can bears the revised logo introduced circa 1989.


Revealing mistakes: In the montage of Forrest's and Lt. Dan's first successful shrimp catch after the hurricane where they are emptying their full shrimp nets onto the deck of the boat, the shrimp nets are full of headless shrimp. Shrimp caught in nets are complete animals, and they are processed on the boat after they are dumped, at which time their heads are removed. Shrimp boats do not catch pre-processed shrimp from the waters of the gulf.


Continuity: The ramp outside the stage door at the Dick Cavett show as seen over Forrest's shoulder is clear of snow, yet moments later it covered with snow as Lt. Dan slides down it.


Revealing mistakes: When Forrest is playing ping pong, the computerized ball starts moving very quickly. If you follow it closely, you can see that it bounces off his elbow at one point instead of the paddle (right before the ball bounces and then seems to hit the camera).


Anachronisms: During the 4th of July 1976 celebration scene at Forest's house with Jenny, the fireworks show on the television shows the Statue of Liberty after it was restored. The Statue was restored in 1986.


Continuity: When Forrest stops running, there are no shadows in the overhead shots (overcast weather) but a clear shadow from his cap in the close-up of his face.


Revealing mistakes: When the bullies first throw rocks at Forrest, the second one clearly hits him below his eye, but he starts to bleed up on the top of his forehead.


Continuity: When Forrest is giving his speech about the war in front of the reflecting pool and he runs down to meet Jenny, he walks by the same guy twice.


Continuity: When little Forrest and Jenny are on the bus, the bus seems to be traveling at different speeds, depending on the shot..


Factual errors: When Forrest and Jenny watch the fireworks, the sound from the fireworks bursting comes exactly on the same time as they appear.


Revealing mistakes: When Lt. Dan falls off the wheelchair, he gets up with the help of his (invisible) legs.


Continuity: When Forrest is originally running from the bullies he is in a plaid shirt, the shirt then changes, and he ends up in the same plaid shirt by the end of the shot.


Anachronisms: When Forrest is playing ping-pong before being discharged, the gymnasium where he's playing shows the 3-point line on the basketball court. The 3-point line was first used 29 November 1980 in a college basketball game at Reid Gym in Cullowhee, North Carolina.


Continuity: Forrest paints the name "Jenny" on the side of his shrimping boat. However, in just about every subsequent scene, the name is gone from the side of the boat.


Revealing mistakes: When Jenny is playing guitar naked you can see the outline of a skin toned thong.


Continuity: When Lt. Dan meets Forrest after Forrest becomes a shrimp boat captain, Lt. Dan smokes a cigar. The ash on the end of the cigar changes between shots; it's longer when the camera is facing Forrest than when the camera is facing Lt. Dan.


Anachronisms: During the Vietnam sequence, cabbage palms are visible to represent the tropical locale. Cabbage palms do not grow in Vietnam. They grow in the southeast United States, where the movie was shot.


Factual errors: When Forrest gets his Army discharge (before the 1972 New Years), he is practicing ping pong in the barracks' gym. The basketball court has a 3-point arc. Although, the 3-point arc was introduced in the ABA in 1968, they weren't standard until after 1986. So unless his barracks were home to an ABA team, there wouldn't be a 3-point arc.


Continuity: When the boys are chasing Forrest in their car, from the front it is obvious that they are right on his heels. However, whenever the shot changes to a side view, he is at least ten feet ahead of their car. Then the shot changes and they are again almost running over him.


Continuity: When Forrest gets his leg braces, he walks awkwardly (for example, when walking home from the doctor with his mother) because the braces do not bend at the knees. Yet he is shown seated at least twice while wearing the braces (outside the principal's office and waiting on the porch for the principal to leave his home). In order for him to be seated, the braces must bend at the knees.


Continuity: In the New Year's Eve sequence, Dick Clark is on the TV in the bar, wearing a brown jacket. When the scene switches to Jenny on that same New Year's Eve, Dick Clark is on her TV, wearing a blue jacket.


Anachronisms: The Congressional Medal of Honor can ONLY be won during combat. Forrest Gump was a Medal of Honor recipient for his heroic service in the Vietnam War. However when Forrest is in Washington D.C. with his Medal of Honor around his neck, he is not wearing the combat patch of his unit (which would be located on his left shoulder, above his Seargent's stripes), nor is he wearing a purple heart, for being shot in the buttocks in combat, the Vietnam Service ribbon, or the ribbon worn by a Medal Of Honor winner.


Anachronisms: The Stroh's neon beer sign shown outside the Times Square bar in the early 70's, is a blue, block lettered logo. This logo did not appear until the mid-late 80's. They used a red-script logo up until that time.


Incorrectly regarded as goofs: Any uniform of the United States can NOT be recreated in actual form. There has to be some sort of "mistake" made to the uniform, whether it's the presence of ribbons or medals or if a person is wearing the uniform incorrectly. This is the reason for so many discrepancies to Gump's uniform during the award ceremony.


Continuity: When Forrest runs Tex out of the Vietnam forest, he is holding onto to a leg in one shot, his arm in the next shot, and then his leg again in the last shot.


Factual errors: The original tropical jackets in Vietnam era had a much smaller collar length, more like a shirt collar measuring no more than 3.5 inch, while the jackets appeared in the movie were sewn with a much longer collar.


Continuity: When Forrest gets the returned letters from Jenny in the hospital, Jenny's zip code on the 2nd letter is different from the first and all subsequent letters. This mistaken zip code also appears on every envelope as Forrest's zip code in the return address, but it starts with a "3" when California zip codes should begin with a "9."


Continuity: When Forrest jumps off of his shrimp boat to go home to his sick mother he's empty-handed, but when he's shown running home, he's carrying a suitcase.


Revealing mistakes: Jenny's father's house is clearly a prop. This becomes apparent in the scene near the end of the movie that shows it being "bulldozed to the ground." When the siding falls off and the wall's framing is exposed, one can see that the studs are around four feet apart. Wall studs are normally spaced sixteen inches apart and never over twenty-four inches (two feet) apart.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jun 25,2007 2:16pm
"She tasted like cigarettes."



toggletoggle post by metal_church101  at Jun 25,2007 2:23pm
"He's on vacation"



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 25,2007 2:54pm
AUTOPSY_666 said:
It is AIDS.


proof?



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Jun 25,2007 3:04pm
One of the keywords on IMDB for the movie is AIDS.



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Jun 25,2007 3:08pm
"She also tells Forrest she is suffering from an unknown virus, which is most likely to be the then less commonly known HIV. Together the three move back to Greenbow, Alabama, where Jenny and Forrest finally marry, but their married bliss is cut short by Jenny's death "on a Saturday morning" according to Forrest. Her gravestone gives her date of death as March 22, 1982, which in the real world was a Monday."



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jun 25,2007 3:18pm
xmikex said:
What really happened was she blew the dude who played Inigo Montoya. Scientists still can't explain it, but it's a death sentence.


what the hell does Mandy Patinkin have to do with that?



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jun 25,2007 3:20pm
PWNED. It was too early to be commonly referred to as AIDS in the movie anyway.



toggletoggle post by Jared_The_zompire  at Jun 25,2007 3:39pm
Where did you get all that info from?



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 25,2007 3:39pm
AUTOPSY_666 said:
She also tells Forrest she is suffering from an unknown virus, which is most likely to be the then less commonly known HIV.


Even if it is "most likely" which I don't think it is, that hardly passes for absolute fact (no matter what the IMDB keywords would have people believe). "Less commonly known" and unknown are two totally different things. Less commonly known connotes that most people weren't aware of it in the early 80's which is true. However, one would have to assume that someone with extensive medical knowledge... like.....say, I dunno.... the doctors that worked on her.... would have been able to put a name to it.

I'm not saying every doctor in 1982 is House. I'm just saying doctor's don't just shrug their shoulders and give up on every disease that isn't a household name. If they knew about it they "most likely" would have diagnosed her with it.




toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 25,2007 3:40pm
Yeti said:
xmikex said:
What really happened was she blew the dude who played Inigo Montoya. Scientists still can't explain it, but it's a death sentence.


what the hell does Mandy Patinkin have to do with that?


haha there's this one scene where Jenny is shooting up or something with some guy, and I swear to God the guy looked exactly like Mandy Patinkin.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 25,2007 3:45pm
anonymous said:
PWNED. It was too early to be commonly referred to as AIDS in the movie anyway.


That's why it was already recognized and named a year prior?

Why would the doctor's say "Yeah you have this disease with identical symptoms to this crazy new disease called AIDS.... but we totally don't know what it is."

Next you're gonna tell me the guys in Amistad were just really tan.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 25,2007 3:50pm
ET's mysterious alien sickness..... AIDS



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 25,2007 3:51pm
The Jewish Guy in Saving Private Ryan died of AIDS too, not a knife wound to the heart. I read it in Ryan Seacrest's blog.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 25,2007 3:55pm edited Jun 25,2007 3:55pm
This just in

Oceanographer's are now entertaining the theory that Jaws, who originally displayed symptoms concurrent with being killed in an explosion caused by an oxygen tank exploding in his mouth, may have actually met his demise through a violent strain of shark aids. Marine biologists at the time, however, had no way of naming the disease and just waved it off as a simple case of an oxygen tank exploding in it's mouth.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jun 25,2007 4:12pm
that's the thing about film. directors don't necessarily need to specify her fate in the movie, when it's generally implied that she died of AIDS as a result of her lifestyle. the element of mystery is kind of gone whenif her tombstone said "here lies jenny, she died of aids, we hardly knew ye".



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 25,2007 4:17pm
I can see that. I can see the film wanting to let Jenny go out with a little bit of dignity by not showing her stumbling around covered in purple sores.

But the fact remains that she said the doctors didn't know what kind of disease she had.

Best case scenario for the AIDS theory... it was supposed to be AIDS, but it was just another historical / factual innacuracy. That's really the only theory I'll buy at this point.

Behold, the least mysterious movie ever:



toggletoggle post by MikePile at Jun 25,2007 4:38pm
xmikex said:
This just in

Oceanographer's are now entertaining the theory that Jaws, who originally displayed symptoms concurrent with being killed in an explosion caused by an oxygen tank exploding in his mouth, may have actually met his demise through a violent strain of shark aids. Marine biologists at the time, however, had no way of naming the disease and just waved it off as a simple case of an oxygen tank exploding in it's mouth.


Ill be selling red ribbons to raise awareness for SHAIDS



toggletoggle post by metal_church101  at Jun 25,2007 5:40pm


"Forrest, I'll always be your Aids infected girl"



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 25,2007 5:56pm
metal_church101 said:




Jenny flashes her white blood cell count.



toggletoggle post by Dwellingsickness at Jun 25,2007 5:59pm
I never did see Forrest Gump.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jun 26,2007 10:41am
Dwellingsickness said:
I never did see Forrest Gump.


uh...is that legal?



toggletoggle post by metal_church101  at Jun 26,2007 11:09am


GUMP happens.



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