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returntothepit >> discuss >> LIGEIA, KINGDOM, IN REMEMBRANCE, NEON HOOKERS, WITH NO REMORSE, HOLY WAR by Johnny Hardcore on Mar 22,2007 8:52am
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toggletoggle post by Johnny Hardcore at Mar 22,2007 8:52am



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Mar 22,2007 10:45am
With No Remorse really like themselves(in a bad think they are the shit kind of way), they always set-up shows and have themselves playing 2nd to last. I've been to a few shows they play and if they put on the show they always play 2nd to last when really they should probably be opening(pay your dues. In Remembrance, Kingdom, and the Neon Hookers work ALOT harder than you).

They are a fucking god-awful band. I cannot wait for the metalcore trend to wear down with these nu-metal turds and they will change their name and rip-off whatever they think is cool(however by then most people will view that trend they are hopping on as watered down and lame)

ps. this band used to all dress up in sweatshirts with the name of the band on the front and their names on the back.....god damnit I hope they die for real.



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLi at Mar 22,2007 11:10am
they do kinda have that attitude about them but they're not bad dudes, we've played with em a couple times before

true story: one of the funnier things i've heard about a local band was from a girl that went to school with these dudes. she said "i used to be friends with them but they don't talk to me anymore now that they're all famous and stuff"

apparently famous means more than 20,000 myspace page views or something



toggletoggle post by Johnny Hardcore at Mar 22,2007 3:07pm
With No Remorse will be playing 2nd on this bill



toggletoggle post by joeycobra  at Mar 22,2007 3:18pm
I think this is funny how after the past few comments someone is stating they are playing 2nd when clearly the flier had them playing 2nd to last this is just kind of funny to me.

and yeah this band sets up shows and always plays right before what ever national acts are playing ussually screwing far better bands out of the slot they desevre.



toggletoggle post by Johnny Hardcore at Mar 22,2007 6:59pm
the way our flyers are designed does not necessarily reflect the order...



toggletoggle post by Johnny Hardcore at Mar 30,2007 10:35am
THIS SUNDAY! KINGDOM OWNS!!!



toggletoggle post by Johnny Hardcore at Apr 1,2007 1:24pm
COUPLE MORE HOURS! BRAND NEW SOUND SYSTEM FOR OUR BOYS IN REMEMBRANCE! WELCOME HOME!!!!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 1,2007 4:07pm
I will be there in 5 minutes



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Apr 1,2007 5:32pm edited Apr 1,2007 5:33pm
new sounds system? sick.
i like in remembrance but couldn't make it out today.
next time

i wonder if people are going to throw meat at the singer of kingdom?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 1,2007 6:10pm
there is a bunch of "beef" with kingdom I guess, but I will let anonymouses talk about it. the room is set up like it was the first time I went to a show here. the new sound system is awesome.


holy war: they were really young kids and didn't seem to sure of themselves on the stage. It also doesn't help to be the first band when everyone is just standing around. Sort of slowed paced hardcore. Similar to some integrity.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Apr 1,2007 6:13pm
i'm watching simpsons



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Apr 1,2007 6:33pm
i think kingdom is now ex-ex black my heart seeing how ben (digital i guess is his scene name?) is not playing bass for them anymore.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 1,2007 7:40pm
the guitar play from neon hookers was filling in and he was in BMH from what people said.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 1,2007 7:42pm
with no remorse: they were pretty good. I think I saw them once. a bunch of kids where there dancing for them. Some of the vocals were sort of deathcore-y.

NEON HOOKERS: sounded awesome, but the crowd really didn't do much. I always expect to be a little scared when they play with all the bodies flying around and pile ups, but I wasn't. This was the last date on their tour and it sort of made sense why it was low key. I guess luke (IR) was filling in on bass for them on the tour.

kingdom: the singer does look familiar. She's from maine. During their set, people start tossing around bounceyballs. Oh man, I was really afraid for my eyes. The last time bounceyballs came out in nashua I got hit in the eye. The set was good. The people dancing knew like all the words. They did some speeches like the christian people do, but about veganism and stuff. they had the guitarist from neon hookers in their band on bass. He was the representative of sweatshop meat eaters in the band. there was also a BBQ outside against this band. one thing is that vegans are skinny and I kept missing focusing on their arms



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 1,2007 7:47pm
in remembrance: more and more bounceyballs! Wasn't it one of their last sets that I got hit in the eye. They ended up playing a really good set for their homecoming. The second they started the sound was perfect. These dudes sound so good. It was also funny that all the people who were dancing for Kingdom, weren't dancing for IR. Then nick said some things hatin' on the singer of kingdom. If you are looking at the pictures and thinking "red and blue lights?!? Wtf?" well guess what, there were red and blue lights attached to the new sound system and they turned them on during IR.

The end of IR's set, there was some sort of fight with weapons and 2 people getting their head busted up. This cause A LOT of issues for johnny. Some of the people involved should know how much it sucks when shit happens to/at your show. But it was also Johnny who I saw mopping all the blood up and not one of the responsible parties. Outside was chaos with the buillding owner yelling at people, 2 people from kingdom and nick arguing about the hatin', and highscool girls snapping ms photos. That's all my preaching, but it was fucking lame. It was hilarious when the building owner said "this isn't dorchestah, we're just a bunch of caucasion dudes trying to listen to music and have a good time" and the drummer for neon hookers yelled out that he was in fact african american. I don't believe it, but then again, I don't see people's colors..



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Apr 1,2007 8:12pm
so did the show get shut down?
this is why i HATE our hardcore "scene" no one can just get along its all about who's crew you roll with ect. it is retarded.
why can't we all just go to a show which we all pay the same price to go to and just have a good time?
it pisses me off that people are dick heads and can't just watch the band play and have a good time. isn't that what shows are suppose to be? a good time. i don't pay my hard earned cash to go somewhere and say wow that sucked. i go to these things to have a good time and hang out with my friends.

hope this doesn't hurt the nashua shows from booking.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 1,2007 8:22pm
legia played and then I walked out side an there were 4 cruisers.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 1,2007 9:02pm
pictures... april fools



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Apr 1,2007 9:10pm
no lie about the cruisers rev



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Apr 1,2007 9:14pm
damn they're rockin a jbl system up in nashua now. sweet.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 2,2007 9:23am
So what happened? Someone beat up the kingdom chick? Please tell me a member of with no remorse died if not the whole band!



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 2,2007 11:04am
who fought?



toggletoggle post by aaron_michael  at Apr 2,2007 12:24pm
jesus and the devil.
it's a personal thing.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 2,2007 1:23pm
honestly, I don't know who really fought. the whole fight looked like it was in slow motion and a bunch of kids camera running in who weren't at the show. it looked stupid and then the cops came. Basically, everyone scattered that was there and Ligeia played a short set to like 10 people. By the time Ligeia was over, the cops were outside so I beated it to my car.



toggletoggle post by Johnny Hardcore at Apr 2,2007 2:16pm
the show was an overall success and my thanks to the kids and bands that played their hearts out. this is one of the few places in nashua that will allow our kind of music and lifestyle and we should not take this for granted. let's not ruin this for the kids, the bands and for the legion as they look at this as a business for them as well with their liquor sales. shame on the kids for having a barbecue in protest of Kingdom's lifestyle and bringing up. They are good people and they have my respect. I'm just a neutral guy here, but man, maybe a tranquilizer shot here and there would do some justice instead. See you all at the next show and to all those that were involved in that altercation, my best wishes to you and hope everything is well.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 2,2007 5:35pm
its too bad that some fuckin pussies had to bash my boys in the head with fuckin locks... we paid 10 bucks to come see ligeia and with no remorse. we seen with no remorse but missed ligeias whole fuckin set. if anyone has pics of the altercation id love it if you posted them for us....



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 2,2007 5:49pm
its sad that it had to fuckin happen. we went there to have a good time, dance and listen to some music. just cuz we were in our own little crew doesnt mean were there to start fuckin trouble. my boy also gave one of the kids that confronted my other boy a fuckin ciggarette. were suppose to fuckin unite at hardcore shows and have fun.... unless having fun at hardcore shows is non-existent......



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 2,2007 5:51pm
im one of the kids who got the head bashed open ... these pussies are gunna get what they deserve no doubt... it all started over some kid asking my boy if he punched someone in the pit, my boy said no and band fighting... he got one then i did... A FUCKING PAD LOCK TIED TO A GOD DAMN BANDANNA...honestly if u wanna fight fight me one on one no weapons



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 2,2007 5:54pm
come one now wtf is this world coming to when some one has to tie a lock to a black bandana and hit some one in the head with it .. FUCK THE SCENCE KIDS and there crews there the ones that are going to ruin it for everyone else .. .. whatever happen to fighting with fist and not weapons ?



toggletoggle post by Johnny Hardcore at Apr 2,2007 5:56pm
this fuckin sickens me...are you ok? i'm sure you required stitches or staples from the description of the story. how did everything turn out?



toggletoggle post by BlackoutRick at Apr 2,2007 6:05pm
Children.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 2,2007 6:24pm
im ok 7 staples and 3 stitches but the kid who hit us was arrested so something good came of it at least and we hung out with ligea for a few mins so all in all night was not a dissapointment



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 2,2007 7:05pm
rev, you should take photos of these fights so people can be identified.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 2,2007 7:12pm
that's sort of why I don't do it.
that and fights usually happen (like this one) once my camera's gone away.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Apr 2,2007 7:59pm
this should have been called wiggerfest



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Apr 2,2007 8:20pm
It actually looks like baseball hat fest.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Apr 2,2007 8:26pm
sidewards baseball hat fest



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Apr 2,2007 8:29pm
The hats are straight. Their heads are sideways from the sick mosh.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Apr 2,2007 8:34pm
our drummer is in one of the bands from this.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 2,2007 8:51pm
oh yeah he is.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Apr 2,2007 8:56pm
i think i know[of] some of the kids involved in this incident....
i will get the info Wednesday night.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 2,2007 9:08pm
let me know i would really like to help my friends out... they got some good gashes



toggletoggle post by Charlie AKA C MURDEROUS at Apr 2,2007 9:57pm
Man what a bad day to take off at nashua shows. wuts good rev. I should have been there



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 2,2007 10:17pm
IR fucking killed it.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 2,2007 10:43pm
oh and the beef between IR and Kingdom was worked out I guess and it was just a misunderstanding about a promoter shorting all the bands.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 3,2007 8:37am
bake em away toys



toggletoggle post by aaron_michael  at Apr 3,2007 8:51am
anonymous said:
come one now wtf is this world coming to when some one has to tie a lock to a black bandana and hit some one in the head with it .. FUCK THE SCENCE KIDS and there crews there the ones that are going to ruin it for everyone else .. .. whatever happen to fighting with fist and not weapons ?


"their" "they're"



toggletoggle post by yummy at Apr 3,2007 9:04am
wow, this shit will continue to happen at any show. sucks that people have to get hurt tho. Are long hairs a major target at these shows or would I be cool?



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 3,2007 10:38am
cuz we fight to live
we live to fight
we don't give a shit
what's wrong or what's right right right



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Apr 3,2007 11:31am

were any of these kids in the fight?



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 3,2007 1:33pm
xanonymousx suprisingly, for some reason you chose people that are friends with the alleged person who got arrested. this person who was arrested goes to my school and i will not disclose his name, for he is a minor and i believe him when he tells me he was not the one who did it. this is definitely a sad event, and i'm really sorry to the people who were hit for no reason at all. if this kid did actually do it, shame on him, i won't talk to him anymore, but until there is concrete evidence against it i won't believe it. hes barely 16 years old...



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 3,2007 1:37pm
i love the level of secrecy that goes into these fights. if hardcore kids could keep naked pictures of scene girls as wrapped up as they do fight details then the world would be a better place.

honestly, why doesn't someone just be a man about it and post the story anonymously.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 3,2007 1:41pm
he didn't really tell me the whole thing, just he was arrested for second hand assault and he didn't do it. then said someone hit another kid with a padlock etc etc. i really would post the story if he told me, but he didn't really tell me. and i won't tell his name because well for obvious reasons.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Apr 3,2007 1:41pm
anonymous said:
xanonymousx suprisingly, for some reason you chose people that are friends with the alleged person who got arrested. this person who was arrested goes to my school and i will not disclose his name, for he is a minor and i believe him when he tells me he was not the one who did it. this is definitely a sad event, and i'm really sorry to the people who were hit for no reason at all. if this kid did actually do it, shame on him, i won't talk to him anymore, but until there is concrete evidence against it i won't believe it. hes barely 16 years old...


damn that sucks, i see and know of all those people in that picture for the most part.
and i believe i know of the person you speak of.
i've heard of stuff that they do at the shows from others such as bringing brass nuckles among other things to "protect themselves"

i will have to ask one of those kids about it more when i see him later this week



toggletoggle post by Aegathis nli at Apr 3,2007 1:46pm


I call that a Little Anthony right there, a metal man playing some jug jugs on drums that is



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 3,2007 1:47pm
i probably know you then. because i'm friends with them too. but i wasn't at this show. and yeah some of them do bring brass knuckles and things. i don't know if the notorious one went that that show or not though, but i'll ask too.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 3,2007 1:50pm
HERE'S a story.......

one time I was fighting a kid at a show (dumb). He was on top of me but I had him locked up with one arm, and I was blasting him in the head with the other. I reached into my pockets to grab my brass knuckles (dumb). I took them out, put them on and said to myself "How fucking gay would it be to hit this kid with brass knuckles??" I put them back in my pocket and kept hitting him with my fists. No cops came, the rest of the show went fine, and I never brought another weapon to a show again because it was lameass.

What a great story.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Apr 3,2007 1:51pm
even though the fighting was dumb you were smart not to break out the weapons.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 3,2007 1:53pm
oh and xanonymousx you can see the kid in the picture, i just realized almost clearly.....



toggletoggle post by aaron_michael  at Apr 3,2007 1:55pm
one time, I went to a deli in brighton to get some lunch. there were some shady characters there, but I kept to myself.
I finally went to place my order and filled out the giant list that was to be my lunch. When it was ready, I looked inside and it was made perfectly. I put it in my bag and hopped a bus. I then sat on the boston commons with my book, some Mogwai on the iPod, and my amazing sandwich.
Later that night I got arrested for drunkely throwing a brick through a church window.

sandwiches and blasphemy > shows.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Apr 3,2007 1:56pm
anonymous said:
oh and xanonymousx you can see the kid in the picture, i just realized almost clearly.....


ok then i Know who it is.



toggletoggle post by diarrhea_Blumpkin at Apr 3,2007 1:59pm
im so sick of fights at shows, especially at nashua shows... kinda makes me not want to go there again



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 3,2007 2:05pm
xanonymousx said:
anonymous said:
oh and xanonymousx you can see the kid in the picture, i just realized almost clearly.....


ok then i Know who it is.

its crazy how many kids know him.



toggletoggle post by Sinistas   at Apr 3,2007 2:31pm
Aegathis nli said:

I call that a Little Anthony right there, a metal man playing some jug jugs on drums that is


Showing off his artistic versatility.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 3,2007 2:52pm
it wasn't who you think it was, to the guys that got hit in the head: if you don't know who hit you don't jump on the bandwagon and believe it is who everyone says it is. i know you want to imply a load of payback on someone but get the facts straight before you smash someone who didnt have anything to do with it(even though said person did have the weapon in question its the easiest thing to make, im sure more then 2 people had the same setup with them that night)

keep weapons out of the legion guys, johnny is a good guy for setting all this shit up and at the end of the day he has to answer to people for your fucking retarded actions.

and next time you decide to hit someone over the head with a fucking lock think of the consequences, think of you having to answer to that persons family if the fucking kid died or ended up with brain damage or some shit.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 3,2007 3:15pm
this is gonna take Secret Squirrel, Danger Mouse, and Inspector Gadget to crack this mystery.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Apr 3,2007 3:24pm
when will this retarded style of music and the tuff guys who get off on it die out? violence at shows is stupid. leave that to g-unit shows. fuck this dumb shit.



toggletoggle post by Sinistas   at Apr 3,2007 3:32pm
Guess what? If you bring a fucking padlock tied to a bandana to a show, regardless of whether you use it, you're a fucking loser. End of story.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Apr 3,2007 3:46pm
Sinistas said:
Guess what? If you bring a fucking padlock tied to a bandana to a show, regardless of whether you use it, you're a fucking loser. End of story.


^^^^^^ backed 100%
this is why i like metal 10000000 times more than hardcore you go to metal show there are no problems and if they are they stop almost right away. no one cares if xjoex and sally two step have they same nikes.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Apr 3,2007 3:52pm
this kind of scene is for wiggers, fags, and kids who couldn't make the jv football team.



toggletoggle post by Aegathis  at Apr 3,2007 4:28pm
and now apparently kids with hot 50 year old moms too



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Apr 3,2007 4:29pm
hahahahaha



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Apr 3,2007 4:34pm
And the same people who bring weapons will be the first ones to complain about a lack of all ages shows.



toggletoggle post by Sinistas   at Apr 3,2007 4:35pm
And wear girl's jeans.



toggletoggle post by yummy at Apr 3,2007 8:10pm
and start smoking pot after years of shoving it down your throat not to.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 3,2007 9:33pm
FUCK THE SCENCE KIDS AND THERE PATHETIC LOCKS TIED TO A BANDANA ID FIGHT EVERYONE OF THEM ONE AT A TIME ONE ON ONE BUT THEY WOULDNT THEY WOULD RATHER GANG UP ON YOU AND CRACK YOU WITH A LOCK ..... PUSSIES



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Apr 3,2007 9:34pm
SCENCE RARR!



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 3,2007 10:30pm
I still don't understand why these kids pay 10 bucks to go into a show to trash on a band's lifestyle. I was disgusted to walk outside to see the BBQ (don't get me wrong, i love the occasional burger). Talk to Kingdom. Some of the nicest people I've ever met but a couple of kids who compete to see who has the most unique nikes or the rarest fitted have to just ruin it for a large percentage of us who want to go to a show to have a good time, respect each other, sing along and just be a community together. We all like the same music, hence why we're all there at the same time, so the tension is beyond me. Bands put hard fucking work into playing shows and tours. They didn't ask you to come to trash on their life style. Get your Merrimack Valley pride out of your asses and realize you aren't the only people who enjoy hardcore. It was my first time at a Nashua Legion show and I know for a fact it's my last. I've told everyone that goes out to see shows about what happened, so business from me and my friends who actually pay to enjoy bands will not be done with Nashua shows any longer. A fucking shame. Even Worcester is smarter than this. A fucking padlock fight? Kids who did it were probably from the Billerica area I'm sure. Psh.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Apr 3,2007 10:33pm
kids in billerica don't listen to godsmack anymore?



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 3,2007 10:49pm
THE HARDCORE SCENCE IS FALLING APART!



toggletoggle post by aaron_michael  at Apr 3,2007 11:06pm
anonymous said:
I still don't understand why these kids pay 10 bucks to go into a show to trash on a band's lifestyle. I was disgusted to walk outside to see the BBQ (don't get me wrong, i love the occasional burger). Talk to Kingdom. Some of the nicest people I've ever met but a couple of kids who compete to see who has the most unique nikes or the rarest fitted have to just ruin it for a large percentage of us who want to go to a show to have a good time, respect each other, sing along and just be a community together. We all like the same music, hence why we're all there at the same time, so the tension is beyond me. Bands put hard fucking work into playing shows and tours. They didn't ask you to come to trash on their life style. Get your Merrimack Valley pride out of your asses and realize you aren't the only people who enjoy hardcore. It was my first time at a Nashua Legion show and I know for a fact it's my last. I've told everyone that goes out to see shows about what happened, so business from me and my friends who actually pay to enjoy bands will not be done with Nashua shows any longer. A fucking shame. Even Worcester is smarter than this. A fucking padlock fight? Kids who did it were probably from the Billerica area I'm sure. Psh.


you'll be missed.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Apr 3,2007 11:09pm
a myspace bulletin from one of in remembrance's members even told people to go to the show and throw meat at davin [kingdom's singer]



toggletoggle post by anonymoustache at Apr 4,2007 12:45am
anyone want to give me a summary of what the entire "nikes are made in sweatshops" talk was about? i didnt get there for that embarassment



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 4,2007 7:47am
if only metal stayed out of hardcore in the first place all of this would have been avoided... crossover was not only the best thing to happen to hardcore but also the worst... if only it was left where is branched out to in 88'... how come people dont understand that metal is for gays? p.s... hardcore kids don't wear girls pants, metalcore queers do.



toggletoggle post by yummy at Apr 4,2007 7:54am
I have definitely seen hardcore kids wearing girl pants.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 4,2007 8:14am
anonymous said:
if only metal stayed out of hardcore in the first place all of this would have been avoided... crossover was not only the best thing to happen to hardcore but also the worst... if only it was left where is branched out to in 88'...


YAWWWWN. so go back in time and convince DRI to break up. Until then ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. There are a ton of great bands that incorporate metal into hardcore (and vice versa) that aren't fruity fruit salad metalcore queens. And none of this has anything to do with anything.




toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 4,2007 8:16am
I don't know anything about Kingdom, or what they stand for. But there's been vegan/vegetarian/whatever kids in the NH, and Mass scenes forever. Why choose now to have a problem with it.

I dunno, does anyone have a real answer to this? I'm all ears.



toggletoggle post by yummy at Apr 4,2007 8:33am
For starters, get out of the high school mentality of being better than everyone. If you're hardcore, cool, if you're metal, cool, but no matter what music you listen to everyone is equal. MLK mofos. Maybe not talent-wise. I remember respect being big on the hardcore ideal list. When you go to a show with a bbq outside against a vegan band you are a dick. What kind of respect are you trying to get with those actions. Sorry, I'm a metalhead so I'm gay.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 4,2007 9:07am
i guess it was something about kingdom's singer not showing up and screwing bands with money.



toggletoggle post by Johnny Hardcore at Apr 4,2007 10:09am
it's just personal beef between IR and xKINGDOMx. that is all. I feel bad that some of you don't feel comfrotable coming to the legion in Nashua here on out, but that kind of stuff can happen at a pizza shop down the street, it could happen at boston billiards, it could happen at the bowling alley bathroom...shit happens. I would need to grow another hand to be able to count how many times I've been rocked over the last 17 years of going to shows and I haven't stopped yet...however, not by weopans. This, going forward will not and I STRESS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED! YOU WILL BE CAUGHT, YOU WILL BE THROWN OUT, YOU WILL BE PROSECUTED BY THE LAW OR BY ME! THAT SHIT IS WEAK!!!! Again, I sincerely wish the best to the injured involved and wish a speedy recovery. I put on shows for a reason...to give kids a safe haven to see music where they can't elsewhere. It's a damn good thing going for the hardcore/metal community and if some imbecile wants to ruin it for the hundreds of kids that hold such strong values in this scene/industry today, then a big FUCK YOU to you! Stay the fuck out!!! My love for what I do and believe in cannot be broken.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 4,2007 10:11am
give em hell johnny.



toggletoggle post by aaron_michael  at Apr 4,2007 10:18am
if you go outside new england, metal and hardcore folk usually coexist with each other peacefully.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 4,2007 11:52am
hm.. a few things.
1) a bunch of people due to legal issues have asked me to remove this thread. Removing threads is so difficult and in the end results in holes in my site so I'm not going to do that. granted, if people start mentioning anyone's names or anything like that, I will censor. Feel free to talk about how much fighting/weapons suck, but if I see "danny crabopple hit me in the head with a fish". I know what you are think and yes, it is embrassing that you have been calling him danny crandle all these years. That's libel and all so I will delete it.

2) johnny should kick more ass.

3) obviously the kid arrested isn't the kid that did it. he'll just get charged with carrying a weapon. Anyone that did do something turned and ran before the cops got there. hell 3/4 of the show took off when the cops sirens were heard.

3) johnny rules. but just like shows at the ICC, too many injures at the hospital and police reports and johnny will be infront of the sheriff pleading with him to not shut him down.

4) metal dudes were girls pants. hardcore dudes wear girl's pants. drunk people wear girl's pants. halloween people wear girl's pants. 1/2 of the population of the world wear girl's pants. dudes that wear girl's pants a friggin fashion victims and retards (or they just want their ass to look sweet). you will run into retards in every facet of your life. if you don't like it.. why don't you PULL THE PLUG!!!!

5) there are tons of great cross-over bands. the bestest ever hardcore bands incorporate slayer riffs in their breakdowns.



toggletoggle post by Johnny Hardcore at Apr 4,2007 12:29pm
thank you Rev. the legion have been very cool throughout this all. they understand this is nothing that i could have controlled. how am I or anyone to find a padlock or something of that size on someone as they enter the club...it's not gonna happen. shows will continue there until I hear otherwise. everyone should be encouraged to keep going to the legion, where the positives far outweigh the negative



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 4,2007 1:19pm
I heard it was Artie Moshbreath in the convervatory with a candlestick.

Bake em away toys!



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Apr 4,2007 1:21pm
xmikex said:
I heard it was Artie Moshbreath in the convervatory with a candlestick.

Bake em away toys!


hahaha



toggletoggle post by aaron_michael  at Apr 4,2007 1:26pm edited Apr 4,2007 1:27pm
xmikex said:
I heard it was Artie Moshbreath in the convervatory with a candlestick.

Bake em away toys!







toggletoggle post by d_blumkpkin nli at Apr 4,2007 1:44pm




>>
he looks constipated



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 4,2007 3:55pm

to be honest, this whole post sickens me. ive been going to shows for years now and i've seen my share of fights, yeah i agree that this was one of the worst ones i've witnessed but still there has been worse. we go to shows for the music and to be with our friends. our friends are family to us all. if you saw someone hit your father what the fuck are you going to do? just sit there and fucking let it happen, i doubt it, your going to fucking take action. same goes for your friends. and your especially not going to rat out eachother, your going to stand united. i'm not trying to justify that what happened and say it was right, i'm just saying that it's in your blood to have each others backs. your all grown men, enough with the drama.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 4,2007 4:13pm
AMELIA MOSHHART IN THE LIBRARY WITH A LEAD PIPE

case closed. I'm the Encyclopedia Brown of Mosh Mysteries.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Apr 4,2007 4:17pm
encyclopedia brown was a gumpazz nigga!



toggletoggle post by Break It Alex at Apr 4,2007 6:18pm
Anonymous posts are dumb.
Cops at shows is dumb, no matter what. We take care of ourselves whether its good or bad. If you see something you don't like, try to stop it or just leave, don't bring cops around. Add that to the list of reasons i hate cell phones.
People dont all get along, even hardcore kids. And sometimes people do really bad things to people they don't like. Occasionally they deserve it. Everyone involved in this scene is a RETARD, myself included. So what do you expect? If you aren't involved in an alercation or it doesn't have an affect on you(ie. happening at a show you booked) why do you think about it for even ten minutes?
I wasnt there and have no idea what went on, but everytime I read shit with kids whining about fights or saying they hate hardcore kids or hate the scene or shit like "this is why metal is so much better"(i've been in a million fights at slayer shows) and shit like that It pisses me off. Talk about the good and ignore what you don't like. Most of the time the people talking dont even know the situation. What if someone that got beat up raped someones sister? Touched children? Stole money from a touring band?
I hope the legion continues to have shows for all of enternity.





toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 4,2007 6:27pm
NASHUA SCENE KIDS SUCK MY DICK



toggletoggle post by neon brian at Apr 4,2007 6:53pm
Best show ive played in a while. really mad i didnt go on that tour.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Apr 4,2007 9:50pm
Johnny Hardcore said:
it's just personal beef between IR and xKINGDOMx. that is all. I feel bad that some of you don't feel comfrotable coming to the legion in Nashua here on out, but that kind of stuff can happen at a pizza shop down the street, it could happen at boston billiards, it could happen at the bowling alley bathroom...shit happens. I would need to grow another hand to be able to count how many times I've been rocked over the last 17 years of going to shows and I haven't stopped yet...however, not by weopans. This, going forward will not and I STRESS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED! YOU WILL BE CAUGHT, YOU WILL BE THROWN OUT, YOU WILL BE PROSECUTED BY THE LAW OR BY ME! THAT SHIT IS WEAK!!!! Again, I sincerely wish the best to the injured involved and wish a speedy recovery. I put on shows for a reason...to give kids a safe haven to see music where they can't elsewhere. It's a damn good thing going for the hardcore/metal community and if some imbecile wants to ruin it for the hundreds of kids that hold such strong values in this scene/industry today, then a big FUCK YOU to you! Stay the fuck out!!! My love for what I do and believe in cannot be broken.


good for you Johnny, keep up the good work.
hopefully all the drama will stop and the good times can continue in Nashua.
you and Charlie work hard and don't need some people to ruin the fun not only for you guys but everyone who has ever been to a show in Nashua.
I will be coming back to rock out.



toggletoggle post by JoeyCobra  at Apr 4,2007 11:44pm
anyone that books shows an attempts to put on a good time is A-OK(shit goes wrong other than fights and such like money issues and worrying about time). Speaking of which I should prob. start booking again as my inboxs on myspace and g-mail are flooded...any suggestions for venues?



toggletoggle post by neon brian at Apr 9,2007 8:47pm
look at medway and natick...they are bumping.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 11,2007 12:44pm
With No Remorse has a lot of friends in national bands which is why they get the shows they do. some they deserve, some they don't. i personally think they're pretty good as far as metalcore goes. overdone? sure...but undeniably talented.



toggletoggle post by aaron_michael  at Apr 11,2007 2:19pm
anonymous said:
NASHUA SCENE KIDS SUCK MY DICK


dag. you got them good.



toggletoggle post by diepigdie at Apr 11,2007 2:25pm
sounds more like with no remorse is sucking mad dick.

with no remorse member with popular metalcore band's collective dicks in mouth: "...So we can play with you guys, right?"



toggletoggle post by babyshaker nli at Apr 11,2007 2:57pm
Break It Alex said:
Anonymous posts are dumb.
Cops at shows is dumb, no matter what. We take care of ourselves whether its good or bad. If you see something you don't like, try to stop it or just leave, don't bring cops around. Add that to the list of reasons i hate cell phones.
People dont all get along, even hardcore kids. And sometimes people do really bad things to people they don't like. Occasionally they deserve it. Everyone involved in this scene is a RETARD, myself included. So what do you expect? If you aren't involved in an alercation or it doesn't have an affect on you(ie. happening at a show you booked) why do you think about it for even ten minutes?
I wasnt there and have no idea what went on, but everytime I read shit with kids whining about fights or saying they hate hardcore kids or hate the scene or shit like "this is why metal is so much better"(i've been in a million fights at slayer shows) and shit like that It pisses me off. Talk about the good and ignore what you don't like. Most of the time the people talking dont even know the situation. What if someone that got beat up raped someones sister? Touched children? Stole money from a touring band?
I hope the legion continues to have shows for all of enternity.




Oh yea dude why would people call the cops when people are getting hit with padlocks. Next time some faggot tough guy is swinging padlocks we'll call you in to stop it. Can we keep you on call? Cause there’s a lot of lame ass hardcore kids to control. As for the whole hardcore brotherhood "my friends are my family shit" we'll if your friends are hitting people with padlocks there fucking lame not to mention that mentality is so machismo and lame which is why most hardcore these days is lame. It's got nothing to do with girl’s pants or the hardcore cross over its faggots who think that there "fighting" for something. There are the same kids who try to fight you for "talking shit about hardcore" when all you did was say you didn’t enjoy a bands style of music. In short its not the music or the style that’s lame its humanity



toggletoggle post by babyshaker nli at Apr 11,2007 3:01pm
p.s while having a cookout to offend vegans is wrong its pretty damn funny. And I would have found it a lot funnier if I had to listen to some chick bitch about how nike is part of big evil business in America. If you don't like capitalism there's always Canada.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Apr 11,2007 3:03pm
i still don't understand why there was even locks or any type of weapon at this place.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 11,2007 3:04pm
they were probably hoping to find lockers to store their sweet nikes in.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Apr 11,2007 3:06pm
you know what rev your right....

i heard nike owns 90% of the stock in hardcore these days.



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