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returntothepit >> discuss >> how do bands with one guitar player make it sound like two without the use of a backup guitar player? by xanonymousx on Dec 14,2006 4:37pm
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toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Dec 14,2006 4:37pm
i know how they do that when they are recording it is easy
when they out live do they use an amp selector or do they just play with the one guitar?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 14,2006 4:38pm
2 cabs and BBTS uses a switcher.



toggletoggle post by mOe @ work at Dec 14,2006 4:41pm
yea, thats how any bands i've done does it
two cabs and preferrably two heads with an a/b switch



toggletoggle post by DrewBlood@Work at Dec 14,2006 4:45pm
dual cabbing is sick, tetra cabbing is sicker.

my band even uses two bass cabs whenever possible. it just sounds better.



toggletoggle post by DertoxiaNLI at Dec 14,2006 4:57pm
i've experiemented using my Digitech GNX3000. you can program certain effects to be mono or stereo and switch between them. I havn't tried it live but you could probably get away with it in a big venue using one amp and one cab...just have the sound guy put up 2 mics on your cab. this is assuming your amp is stereo. Im sure theres other effect processors that can do this too.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Dec 14,2006 5:09pm
that actually makes sense.

does anyone know if the secret for the harmonized guitars is using a pitch shifter or something to that effect?



toggletoggle post by DrewBlood@Work at Dec 14,2006 5:13pm
i think boss makes a harmonizer pedal. you set the interval ahead of time, and when it comes time to shred you hit it and all of a sudden you have two parts. only problem is that it sounds a little too precise, so if one of your notes is mildly out of tune it will sound really out of tune.



toggletoggle post by eddie  at Dec 14,2006 5:13pm
xanonymousx said:
that actually makes sense.

does anyone know if the secret for the harmonized guitars is using a pitch shifter or something to that effect?


there are pedals used for just that.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Dec 14,2006 5:39pm
cool i might just pick one of those pedals up just for fun.
to see what i could do with it.



toggletoggle post by blue  at Dec 14,2006 6:51pm
it is essential that you use 2 cabs, one on each side. if you gots it, a second head with an a/b/y is the way to go.


it drives me insane when 1 gutiar player bands only use one cab (REVOCATION wink wink). it really thickens things up big time when you just stick another cab on the other side. chances are they cant hear you on the other side at all without one.



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Dec 14,2006 6:51pm
If you're listening closely it will rarely if ever sound like two guitar players, but using 2 cabs, different channels on different cabs/heads can certainly give it a nice stereo feel without that extra rhythm guitar.



toggletoggle post by blue  at Dec 14,2006 7:03pm
im not saying itll sound like 2 guitars, but itll sure as hell sound better.



and dont buy the boss pitch shifter/harmonizers. theyre not going to do what you want them to do.



toggletoggle post by Anthony nli at Dec 14,2006 7:11pm
blue said:
it drives me insane when 1 gutiar player bands only use one cab (REVOCATION wink wink). it really thickens things up big time when you just stick another cab on the other side. chances are they cant hear you on the other side at all without one.


preaching to the choir man. I'm always harping on Dave to buy an extra long speaker cable to bring to shows so we could at least borrow a second cab even if we can't afford to buy one right now.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Dec 14,2006 7:40pm
DrewBlood@Work said:
dual cabbing is sick, tetra cabbing is sicker.

my band even uses two bass cabs whenever possible. it just sounds better.


and quadrocabbing is even SICKER. and the body farm will be doing it (2 heads/2 cabs per guitarist). hopefully whoever ends up playing bass for us will have 2 bass cabs, haha.

i'm not sure if loop stations (or just a sampler) ever come into play regularly, but i assume at least a few bands have used them for extra guitar parts. like if there is a solo recorded onto it and played through one amp while the guitarist is playing the rhythm through another.



toggletoggle post by Dissector   at Dec 14,2006 9:01pm
We just play like we have one guitar...

It also doesn't hurt that our bass is heavily distorted and we're a really bass heavy band, guitar and bass are usually at even levels, sometimes bass is even louder.



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