guitar center is selling a marshall mg100hdfx with cab for 699.99 do you guys think that is a good deal?
or should i just get something like a mesa

first of all this question should be possed towards the GC Masta, but i dont know where Blue is so just wait for him to respond.

LOL.

you realized you just asked the question of, 'should i buy one of the worst amps ever created, or should i buy something light years ahead of it?'

seriously though.

the marshall MG series is by far one of the worst sounding amps iv ever heard.

if youd actually want to get something like a mesa, youd probably be looking at at least a grand more than the marshall stuff.

save yourself money, buy used.

EBAY THAT SHIT NUCCA !!!!!!!!!!

For that price you could get a Crate GT1200H, a FULL stack, and is the best you'll get for the price.

Either that, or buy used.

blue you work at gc right? can you hook me up on a deal with a decent amp?

both Blue and I work at GC Boston and can hook you up...
If you want a halfway decent head w/ out breaking the bank you may consider this used Peavey XXL...

I'd save my $$ and get something tube though.

you and blue need to find me a blockhead 5150!!!!

used Carvin MTS 3200 and a 412. that's all I'm sayin'.

thanks guys... what cab would you suggest to go with the xxl?

I have a block letter EVH 5150 of my own but I'll never get rid of that!

I'd grab a Mesa cab as they are the best cabs EVER but unfortunately we can't discount Mesa/Boogie shit so you'll have to pay the full $849 for it.

If you want a decent cheap cab you may consider Marshall AVT cabs or some of the 'higher' end Crate cabs...

Joshtruction said:

if you can find a 6505 used, theyre identical to block letter specs.

Peavey amps create the shittiest dryest pinch harmonics I've ever heard. The distortions good on them except for being inarticulate.

I don't even really like mesas that much for the same reason. better distortion than the peaveys, but still dry pinches. also really inarticulate. they sound messy.

Than again, I play Crates and people have plenty to say about them too.

blue nli said:

UMMM.....Mesa or ummmm...crap...your decision.

blue nli said:


hmmm your right... but having never heard this amp before the marshall.. to quote the guitar center catalogue "when you need the kind of power that grabs your audience by the throat only the sound of a 100-watt marshall head pushing a 4x12 cab will do. now with the mg100hdfx half stack that signature roar can be yours at a working musicians price, with the added bonus of on board effects like delay chorus flanger and reverb"

i asked this question because of the gc book i got in the mail....

EEEEEKK!!!! Who wrote that article??!! They should be disemboweled!!!

niccolai said:

depends on which peaveys, imo. the xxx is my least favorite head they have in production. i definetly have no problem with getting nice fluid pinch harmonics out of my 5150 II.

boosting mine with a modded tubescreamer certainly helps, too. a lot of people seem to overlook boosting their amps, i find that it tightens up things very well.

mesas for the most part dont impress me too much, besides the mark series although im quite interested in the new stiletto aces.

anonymous said:


i think a general rule of common sense, you shouldnt believe marketing propaganda. i think that goes without saying.

i trust 2 different opinions as far as gear is concerned:

1. my own
2. ones of musicians whose opinions i value and trust

and i trust your opinion compaired to some ad....
do they still make the 5150's or 5150 II?

5150 II yes...you can get an original 5150 on ebay for $400-$600 though.

I really like when people start modding 5150's. They start to sound amazing. Other than these my fav amps are engl's.

Joshtruction said:

I'm actually looking at getting my 5150 II modded in the upcoming months.

http://www.fjamods.com

Kinslayer said:


they are getting harder and harder to find and the price is on the rise like crazy for 5150's. I want to get one before people start asking like 1k for them. I see some in good shape going for 800, modded ones going for a grand, and beat ones going for 500 these days. Right now there is only ONE on ebay and the thing was spray painted.

anonymous said:


they have been renamed the 6505 & 6505+.

blue said:

FJA modded amps sound killer. Ed Gein runs his clarity and bias mod on the 5150 grahm uses and it sounds great live. I played a few tripple channel FJA 5150's and I have nothing but good to say about them.

Joshtruction said:

yeah, graham's sound is pretty great. the new FASSW cd is full of FJA 5150 too, sounds amazing.

blue said:

I didn't know thiers were done by FJA. I am going to try to get them back to this area again soon.

Joshtruction said:


please do it.

i recently got the Peavey JSX Satriani and it is Boss!!!! seriously, best sounding amp from peavey! I got mine for 1200 but i don't know what the list is.

I am a Mesa advocate.
Great sound for me, and quality built.

The only con is they are fucking HEAVY!!!

5150 II would be my second choice.

hey look at me, I'm editing a post.

blue said:

I'm actually pretty sure that it's FJA JCM's...that's what FJA posted on harmony-central at least.

dyingmuse said:

yeah, I'll agree with that Dan. that head sounds killer. maybe eventually I'll get one of those (or maybe a 5150II or 6505+) I haven't decided yet, but first on my agenda is new cabnets.

Blue, any reccomendations on cabnets that won't cost me an arm and a leg and my first born? (keep in mind that I like my tone crunchy and tight, and I'm not a fan of Mesa, because IMO, they're too bassy)

They are a bit bassy, but they are also crunchy and tight, and if you turn your bass down a tad, voila!!

True kok, I do respect Mesa for making quality stuff, it's not what I'm looking for. I'm more of a Marshall/VHT cabnet kinda guy. I prefer a more mid/high tone, and I leave the low end to bass (and synth/piano in my case)

brian_dc said:


its half and half.

blue nli said:


I asked FJA and here was the response "Graham from Ed Gein has the bias mod and clarity mod.
Jerry "