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returntothepit >> discuss >> 666 Brings Metal to MSNBC by ShadowSD on Jun 5,2006 2:08pm
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toggletoggle post by ShadowSD at Jun 5,2006 2:08pm
I just saw a news story on MSNBC about 6/6/06 and how it's being marketed. The story began with a clip of the song Number of the Beast by Maiden, and later mentioned Slayer's new album coming out on that day. It was interesting to see two back-to-back metal references in the mainstream news so I thought I'd mention it...




toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Jun 5,2006 2:11pm
haha the marketing behind 666

wasn't there some big story last year about how 666 actually isn't the number of the beast since it was mistranslated(i don't believe anything anyone says about ancient times because everything is in some way mistranslated)



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD at Jun 5,2006 2:34pm
Yup, just like how Christmas is supposed to be in spring, but since pagans celebrated in late December, early Christians decided to go with the flow. That's a basic tenant of all religion: when the truth is too hard to adjust to, settle for what's convenient and just rewrite history. If mortality is too hard to comprehend, have an afterlife. If existentialist isolation is too much to bear, have a god.

As far as we know, 666 was just read upside down initially. Although, "9....9..9!" wouldn't have had the same impact as a Maiden song; it would have had to be sung by a German band to sound evil.




toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Jun 5,2006 2:51pm
i'd rather hear 222

"svein...svein svein!"



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jun 5,2006 3:24pm
siete siete siete...siete siete, siete, siete



toggletoggle post by SteveOTB   at Jun 5,2006 3:26pm
AFI's new cd I believe comes out on 6.6.06 and origionally Acacia Strains new album was supposed to be releast on 6.6.06 too but is being released I think next week?



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Jun 5,2006 3:35pm
Yeti said:
siete siete siete...siete siete, siete, siete


roku roku roku



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Jun 5,2006 3:37pm
sacreligion said:
i'd rather hear 222

"svein...svein svein!"


Its spelled zwei by the way



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Jun 5,2006 3:38pm
yeah well i never took german i've only heard it



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jun 5,2006 3:40pm
My next turd is being released on 6.6.6.



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD at Jun 5,2006 3:46pm
sacreligion said:
yeah well i never took german i've only heard it


Don't feel bad... I just realized my original joke about nine sounding evil in German is retarded, because nine actually means no in German.



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Jun 5,2006 5:15pm
nein.



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Jun 5,2006 5:21pm
I saw some documentary were they said the number 666 has something to do with Augustus Ceasar because christians believed he was the Antichrist. He killed more Christians than anyone in history.



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Jun 5,2006 5:23pm edited Jun 5,2006 7:31pm
Yep. The number 666 in the bible was likely meant to refer to the Roman Empire. Period. That's it. Sorry folks!

Everything else is just urban legend and faux-Satanism.

And a hell of a lot of fun!



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead nli at Jun 5,2006 7:10pm
wrong.

The number 666 in the bible was a direct reference to the "mark" that would identify those whom would be first for execution by Christ during the apocalypse, as told by the prophet in the book of revelations.

Last year it was discovered that it was likely a mistranslation, and that the numeric value origionally referenced was in fact "616" or "618"




toggletoggle post by ArrowHead nli at Jun 5,2006 7:10pm
^ spelled originally wrong



toggletoggle post by TheGreatSpaldino   at Jun 5,2006 7:13pm
yeah... because they didnt really have the arabic numerics like we do now WAYYYYY back in the Jesus days (as i call them)



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead nli at Jun 5,2006 7:18pm
There were no arabic numbers in the bible. However, at the time that the Old Testament was culled from the original hebrew books arabic numerals WERE in existance, therefore some translations did feature them at the time.



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Jun 5,2006 7:29pm
ArrowHead nli said:
wrong.

The number 666 in the bible was a direct reference to the "mark" that would identify those whom would be first for execution by Christ during the apocalypse, as told by the prophet in the book of revelations.


That is but one interpretation of the text, especially since, as you say, the number itself is in contention. The text that you quote is not even the first example of the number in the Bible, but a New Testament add-on.

Old Testament, II Chronicles Verse 9:13 "Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold".

Also a reference to the number of children of Adonikam was 666 in Ezra, and 667 in Nehemiah.

Clearly this is a code. Many scholars believe it is a code specifically referring to Nero. It certainly wouldn't be the only cryptic case of hogwash and allegory hidden within the Bible. The Catholic Church itself supports the Nero theory.

Fascinating stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast_(numerology)



toggletoggle post by TheGreatSpaldino   at Jun 5,2006 7:35pm
its funny how that in the omen (the new one and im guessing the original)... damien has "the number of the beast" on him... which are 3 arabic numeral 6's. which is fucking bullshit because if all this shit is true then the OLDER way of writing numerics would be the brand on Damien... not the newer way. granted no one knows how they wrote numbers back then... but still.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jun 5,2006 10:38pm
RichHorror said:
My next turd is being released on 6.6.6.


my next turd is being released as soon as i get up and take my pants off. i'm greasing up the anal alleyway right now.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead nli at Jun 5,2006 10:53pm
DrinkHardThrashHard said:
ArrowHead nli said:


Clearly this is a code.



This is assumptive.

The bible, like most, is filled with patterns, and symbolic numbers. It's not neccesarily a code to anything. Look how many times the number 40 comes up, or 12.

Any significant code, if one even existed (which gives the authors far more credit than I feel they deserve), would be impossible to detect anyways. The modern day bible is a handful of writings taken from resource of over 300 collected writings. Add in the dead sea scrolls, mormon writings, etc... and we're not even getting a LITTLE of the picture.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead nli at Jun 5,2006 10:53pm
fuckin gay missed a qoute. I need to log in someday



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD at Jun 6,2006 4:50pm
What a fascinating, enlightening, boring discussion I've started.



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD at Jun 6,2006 4:51pm
With an enthralling poop subplot.



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Jun 6,2006 4:52pm
ArrowHead nli said:
fuckin gay missed a qoute. I need to log in someday



no worries. i understood.



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