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returntothepit >> discuss >> The city of Denver has just legalized marijuana by davefromthegrave on Nov 2,2005 2:13am
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toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Nov 2,2005 2:13am



toggletoggle post by Todd NLI at Nov 2,2005 2:27am
I see a MASSIVE population growth in their near future



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Nov 2,2005 2:39am
CEPHALIC CARNAGE TERRITORY!!



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Nov 2,2005 2:40am
i'm gonna need another shot of bourbon to fall asleep now, that's some exciting news there!



toggletoggle post by attendmyrequiem at Nov 2,2005 2:55am
holy shit!



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Nov 2,2005 2:56am
"The successful I-100 campaign focused on the vast number of health, safety and social problems associated with alcohol use, promoting marijuana use to avoid the prevalence of such problems."

!?!?
Why not just avoid the problems of both?



toggletoggle post by SuperFly at Nov 2,2005 8:05am
GRIEF is going to do a 2 month tour of Denver!!!



toggletoggle post by Ionsphere  at Nov 2,2005 8:11am
im all about this dude...

AND STAR WARS IS NEW EXHIBIT AT THE SCIENCE MUSEUM!!

just to be random



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Nov 2,2005 9:17am
is this for real? this is awesome news if so. Marijuana being illegal is such bullshit



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Nov 2,2005 9:21am
thats because denver needed a reason to not suck, so this was thier best idea.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Nov 2,2005 9:23am
I dunnow, it does kinda eat eggs but Planes Mistaken For Stars and Mustangs & Madras are pretty cool....

and they have like 2 nice venues I can remember.



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Nov 2,2005 9:25am
as it turns out, state law makes this innefective. oh well.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Nov 2,2005 9:26am
http://www.myspace.com/mustangsandmadras

kinda like Black Flag + Saves The Day + some other stuff...very post-hardcore but the singer Nick is like Rollins live, and he plays this big fucking sax for solos.



toggletoggle post by ryanfromhbbsi still isnt fucking logged in at Nov 2,2005 10:30am
so basically you can have and smoke it, but you your dealer is in the wrong for selling it to you and you're in the wrong for growing it.

"By approving the I-100, the use of marijuana in public, the use of marijuana by people under 21, driving under the influence of marijuana, and the cultivation and distribution of marijuana would all remain illegal, much like with alcohol. "



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Nov 2,2005 10:33am
just wait until the US government swoops in and wipes this one out. this wont last.



toggletoggle post by dreadedsilence at Nov 2,2005 11:06am
so you can possess it, but you can't buy it, sell it, grow it, etc.? maybe this wasn't thought through well enough. i don't know the exact specifics of the ordinance but it seems like that is what it says. what the feds or the state should do is take a cue from this and start making some regulations a little more like the alcohol laws. they probably won't though.
what this is, though, is a baby step foward. maybe this will spark something



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Nov 2,2005 11:09am
actually no, under state law, which overthrows city law, you can't possess it either.



toggletoggle post by dreadedsilence at Nov 2,2005 12:25pm
davefromthegrave said:
actually no, under state law, which overthrows city law, you can't possess it either.


right. it's still illegal under state and federal laws. what this was was just the city's attempt to show the public's view on the issue in hopes that the state and/or the feds take it into consideration. even if the state changes the laws, federal law still prohibits it and the state law will be ineffective.



toggletoggle post by cav at Nov 2,2005 1:35pm
FUCKIN SWEET!!!!



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 2,2005 1:40pm
i know right?



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh   at Nov 2,2005 1:51pm
thats cool, I do not smoke pot..but it should be legalized



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Nov 2,2005 2:43pm
dreadedsilence said:
davefromthegrave said:
actually no, under state law, which overthrows city law, you can't possess it either.


right. it's still illegal under state and federal laws. what this was was just the city's attempt to show the public's view on the issue in hopes that the state and/or the feds take it into consideration. even if the state changes the laws, federal law still prohibits it and the state law will be ineffective.


correct. I guess people are gonna have to stop smoking now.



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Nov 2,2005 2:44pm


it looks like this wierd squareface dude is wearing undies and giving you the finger



toggletoggle post by this makes me sick at Nov 2,2005 2:53pm
this makes me sick...... how could anyone want to feel like they arent here fuck anyone that smokes that shit period.



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Nov 2,2005 2:55pm
this makes me sick said:
this makes me sick...... how could anyone want to feel like they arent here fuck anyone that smokes that shit period.




I don't smoke. can we still fuck?



toggletoggle post by this makes me sick at Nov 2,2005 3:08pm
dude i dont swing that way



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Nov 2,2005 3:17pm
this makes me sick said:
this makes me sick...... how could anyone want to feel like they arent here fuck anyone that smokes that shit period.


What do you care about what anyone else does? Apparently you do not have enough to do. Get a hobby.



toggletoggle post by Ryan_M at Nov 2,2005 3:25pm edited Nov 2,2005 3:26pm
this makes me sick said:
this makes me sick...... how could anyone want to feel like they arent here fuck anyone that smokes that shit period.


you're sickened because people want to chill out and relax in the privacy of their own homes? screw you man, you know what's really sickening? some poor kid who gets the shit beaten out of him every day by his drunken assed father for no reason. that's sickening. marijuana never hurt anyone, if anything it makes people feel better for a little while.
legalize it, there's nothing to lose.



toggletoggle post by SickSickSicks   at Nov 2,2005 4:11pm
has anyone made the joke yet that this gives entirely new meaning to the "Devner Nuggets"???




toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 2,2005 4:50pm
or that denver really is the "mile high city" now.... pot sucks



toggletoggle post by Patnomalous at Nov 2,2005 7:28pm
anonymous said:
or that denver really is the "mile high city" now.... pot sucks


Blasphemy!!!!



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Nov 2,2005 7:42pm
wine is more damaging than pot. regardless this will be a topic in my drug course tomorrow...



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 2,2005 8:11pm
what good does it really do....... i know you maybe chilled out but then you either get paranoid or do some really stupid stuff even if your just in your home you can get hurt by cutting yourself with a knife or even falling down.. i do not believe that this is a good idea but do what you want imnot going to lecture on this subject anymore



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 2,2005 8:12pm
its america



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Nov 2,2005 8:22pm
you know, i've been smoking religiously for a long fucking time. getting as baked as possible on a nightly basis, and have yet to do "really stupid stuff" or become paranoid or anything like that. none of my friends do either. we still get up for work, go to class, bills are paid, hell my brother has a 3.9 GPA in college, but he is an ultra pothead. its too bad that some stereotypical stoner had to ruin the image by doing something stupid. i have no problems driving, no problems walking, talking or anything. its a great way to relax after a long day, a good way to whet your appetite, a good way to scrutinize music. all my life i have been fed bullshit about all this bad shit that happens due to weed, and i have yet to encounter anything bad. people need to wake the fuck up and bake the fuck up.



toggletoggle post by sever at Nov 2,2005 8:54pm
good news.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Nov 2,2005 9:35pm
don't knock it til you try it!
stop whining!
worry about yourself!
I have no problem with sXe folk, but don't force your lifestyle on me, I sure as fuck don't.



toggletoggle post by kriswithak  at Nov 2,2005 9:39pm
i am moving to denver that is the place for me



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 2,2005 9:45pm
kriswithak's got the idea lock all of the stoners in denver then the world will be a better place



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Nov 2,2005 9:49pm
anonymous said:
what good does it really do....... i know you maybe chilled out but then you either get paranoid or do some really stupid stuff even if your just in your home you can get hurt by cutting yourself with a knife or even falling down.. i do not believe that this is a good idea but do what you want imnot going to lecture on this subject anymore


Sober people fall down and accidentally cut themselves all the time. But if it's a real concern to you I'll make sure that the next time I have friends over who plan on smoking I will krazy glue their asses to my couch and throw away every sharp object before they shoe up.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 2,2005 9:54pm
anonymous said:
kriswithak's got the idea lock all of the stoners in denver then the world will be a better place


uh, first of all, if you were paying attention at all to earlier posts, you'd know that it is technically NOT legal in denver due to state laws. it basically makes possession of small amounts the lowest priority of enforcement and also create interest in what the public has to say. but denver is not the first city to do it. if you read the article, various cities like Seattle and Oakland have already made possession the lowest enforcement priority.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 2,2005 11:34pm
I'm pretty sure that state law overrides federal law in the case of marijuana legalization (as it does for many laws, as written in the constitution). In theory, if Colorado for example should as a state legalize marijuana, it would be legal except if a federal agent caught you, rather than a state or city cop. I'm not 100% sure about this by any means, but it's a thought.



toggletoggle post by xxxproctologist at Nov 2,2005 11:55pm
its been legal in california for some time now....



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 3,2005 10:28am
99% of the pot smokers I've known are lazy, don't listen, and don't give a shit about anything. Totally unproductive. And, yes, I have also seen some pretty violent pot smokers in my life. That arguement is the stupidest one I've ever heard. I've known some pretty brilliant people with a ton of potential that basically got addicted to pot and it ruined their lives. They quit school, got low-paying part-time jobs and basically lived off of mac-and-cheese, beer, and weed. Sad shit.

I do, however, see the argument made for medicinal use. I could probably get behind something like that. If a person is dying and in a lot of pain, and weed would help them feel better in those last stages of their lives I could see supporting something of that nature. But to make it legal for everyone? No way. Stupid idea. It's beetter to have it kept out of sight. Do I want my daughter asking me what those funny little cigarettes are while we're walking down the street? Hell no.

The decline of Western civilization, indeed.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 3,2005 10:35am
all I gotta say, if my drummer stopped smoking/pot for the last 2 years he'd probably have a new drumset by now. He's just now getting a new pedal...



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Nov 3,2005 10:39am
anonymous said:
99% of the pot smokers I've known are lazy, don't listen, and don't give a shit about anything. Totally unproductive. And, yes, I have also seen some pretty violent pot smokers in my life. That arguement is the stupidest one I've ever heard. I've known some pretty brilliant people with a ton of potential that basically got addicted to pot and it ruined their lives. They quit school, got low-paying part-time jobs and basically lived off of mac-and-cheese, beer, and weed. Sad shit.

I do, however, see the argument made for medicinal use. I could probably get behind something like that. If a person is dying and in a lot of pain, and weed would help them feel better in those last stages of their lives I could see supporting something of that nature. But to make it legal for everyone? No way. Stupid idea. It's beetter to have it kept out of sight. Do I want my daughter asking me what those funny little cigarettes are while we're walking down the street? Hell no.

The decline of Western civilization, indeed.


breeder !



toggletoggle post by lincolnius at Nov 3,2005 10:43am
Today Denver....tomorrow THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good for Denver. I think it's a great idea....you can use pot for way more things than "getting lazy" Oh and people are lazy to begin with...it's not the pot thats making them lazy.



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Nov 3,2005 10:52am
yea no shit. its not like people who dont smoke arent sitting on their asses watchin tv like the rest of us. i wonder what anonymous does for a living?



toggletoggle post by lincolnius at Nov 3,2005 10:54am
Maybe they're an anti-drug activist.



toggletoggle post by lincolnius at Nov 3,2005 10:55am
Either way I have this to say.....if people are looking at pot as being the enemy this country faces they're looking the wrong direction.



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Nov 3,2005 10:58am
^^^^^
WAY better things to worry about.



toggletoggle post by lincolnius at Nov 3,2005 11:00am
Way LARGER things to worry about.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 3,2005 11:28am
What is this world coming to? Whats next? The legalization of crack and heroin



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Nov 3,2005 11:38am
pot isnt crack or heroin retard



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Nov 3,2005 12:54pm
yeah man to lump weed in the same category as crack and heroin is retarded. they are eons apart. i know plenty of lazy worthless people who arent and have never been potheads. i also know many people whos lives were practically saved by weed. people who were worked up all the time, stressed out, and then they smoked pot. they were able to relax and look at things in a different light. sure there are lazy ass stoners out there, but that is hardly an argument.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 3,2005 8:09pm
anonymous said:
99% of the pot smokers I've known are lazy, don't listen, and don't give a shit about anything. Totally unproductive. And, yes, I have also seen some pretty violent pot smokers in my life. That arguement is the stupidest one I've ever heard. I've known some pretty brilliant people with a ton of potential that basically got addicted to pot and it ruined their lives. They quit school, got low-paying part-time jobs and basically lived off of mac-and-cheese, beer, and weed. Sad shit.


I have never met a violent pot-smoker. I've never met anyone who had a ton of potential before getting into pot and then became a complete laze and "ruined their lives". I've been smoking pot for a little over two years. I'm in high school right now, getting Bs and As with the occasional C. Three of my classes are honors classes, and out of the other three, one of them isn't available in honors, so I'm taking 3 out of 5 above average classes. I listen very well, better than I speak lots of times. I have a part time job at Barnes and Noble, I write music (pretty good music in my opinion) in more than one genre, I play guitar quite proficiently, piano/keys pretty good, trumpet OK, and lately I've been dabbling in drums, which considering how infrequently I sit down at them, I guess I'm good. Also, I watch very little TV and play very little video games except when hanging out with friends sometimes, and instead in my alone down time prefer to either read or smoke and listen to music, maybe while doing some homework (I do homework just as good, if not better when stoned, although I do work slower). Some days I am pretty lazy, but not nearly as lazy as the average non-pot smoking highschooler. I'm not making any of the above up. I believe that people like the ones you described exist, but you have to understand that most people, like myself, undergo no change when smoking weed, and all of the burnouts I know (I consider myself one too, since I'm almost always high or burnt out) that get bad grades or have shitty aspects to their personality did/were so before they started smoking. And also (and believe me, in NO way am I trying to tell you how to raise your daughter or anything man, that's all you, I would never tread on that ground), I don't think I really see your point about explaining to your daughter what the funny cigarettes people are walking around smoking are. What would you say if she asked about normal cigarettes? "Oh, well, people smoke them just because they are addicted to them, and their body craves it. They don't taste good, they have no positive effects, and they have hundreds of horrible chemicles in them that lead to lung cancer and other fatal diseases." I think that is far more terrifying than a plant with no additives that makes you laugh and feel happy, and makes food taste amazing and music sound different in a spectactular way, and unites people with feelings of peace and love (haha yeah I know, the 60s are over). Plus, it is not even close to being as harmful as cigarettes. Even if you smoke 20 joints a day, although you'll be getting more tar than 20 cigs a day, you will not be getting any deadly additives, and although there ARE carcinogens in weed, the substances that activate these carcinogens in cigarettes are not present in weed, so as long as your not a cigarette smoker too, than you will almost certainly not get cancer from marijuana. And this is all not even mentioning the multitudes of benefits of harvesting hemp, that is, the vast amount of things that it can be used for.

That said, I believe that the only good point made against weed so far in this thread is RustedAngels comment earlier about money. It is a very very valid point. I do end up spending lots of my part-time pay on weed. Besides that I can't really think of any solid anti-marijuana argument, not to say there is no reason to not want to smoke, because there could be many reasons that a person would make the personal desision to not smoke themselves.



toggletoggle post by LtdEc-1000  at Nov 3,2005 8:48pm
^^^ Amen.

Im a senior in highschool. I play Guitar mainly, but i also play the drums, bass, and ive been playing cello since i was 9. Retzam pretty much just wrote out exactly how i feel on the topic.



toggletoggle post by KKKKKKKKKKLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL... idiot ... at Nov 3,2005 9:46pm
PLUIOPIOUY



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 3,2005 10:25pm
LtdEc-1000 said:
^^^ Amen.

Im a senior in highschool. I play Guitar mainly, but i also play the drums, bass, and ive been playing cello since i was 9. Retzam pretty much just wrote out exactly how i feel on the topic.


I had a feeling I wasn't the only one man, hahaha.



toggletoggle post by IMADOUCHE at Nov 3,2005 10:26pm
retzam said:
LtdEc-1000 said:
^^^ Amen.

Im a senior in highschool. I play Guitar mainly, but i also play the drums, bass, and ive been playing cello since i was 9. Retzam pretty much just wrote out exactly how i feel on the topic.


I had a feeling I wasn't the only one man, hahaha.


YOUR A CUNT



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 3,2005 10:26pm
Gotta love that ridiculous poster. My post is so long that I couldn't possibly expect anyone to read it when it's formatted onto two long lines so as to make constant side-scrolling necessary.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 3,2005 10:27pm
You're an anonymous poster.



toggletoggle post by IMADOUCHE at Nov 3,2005 10:27pm
SO YOUR SAYIN YOU LIKE THAT?



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