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returntothepit >> discuss >> Meat Means Murder! by Joe/NotCommon on Oct 13,2005 11:31am
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toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Oct 13,2005 11:31am
it's too bad such a good song is about such a dumb thing




toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Oct 13,2005 11:54am
(shrugs) meat is murder


all food comes from murder that I can think of...except synthetics / artificial shit



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Oct 13,2005 12:00pm
the_taste_of_cigarettes said:
(shrugs) meat is murder


all food comes from murder that I can think of...except synthetics / artificial shit


and that shit isn't even food



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Oct 13,2005 12:01pm
YOU MURDERED MY TWINKIE



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Oct 13,2005 12:13pm
meat is self defense, id die if i didnt eat it



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Oct 13,2005 12:41pm edited Oct 13,2005 12:43pm
See, vegans will say that you don't need it. But thats retarded, We've been eating meat for millions of years and I'm not going to stop now. We should at least TRY to eat all free range.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Oct 13,2005 1:07pm
arent there shitloads of antioxidants and necessary nutrients within meat? most vegans or vagitarians are sickly looking. our canines and molars werent designed for mashing plants, they were designed for shredding muscle and tissue. carnivores unite!



toggletoggle post by Messerschmitt at Oct 13,2005 1:09pm
mmm muffalo



toggletoggle post by ryanfromhbbsi still isnt fucking logged in at Oct 13,2005 1:10pm
swamplorddvm said:
See, vegans will say that you don't need it. But thats retarded, We've been eating meat for millions of years and I'm not going to stop now. We should at least TRY to eat all free range.


if everyone hunted, we'd hunt deer and everything into oblivion. we need farming, but i dont agree with the way a lot of farms work with hormones, roids, etc.



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Oct 13,2005 1:11pm



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Oct 13,2005 1:12pm
CRAP!!!!



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Oct 13,2005 1:12pm
They have free range farms I think. Big ones ofcourse.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Oct 13,2005 1:13pm
All I know, is cows werent put here to just look stupid and shit on themselves.

They were put here because theyre delicious!!



toggletoggle post by DreamingInExile   at Oct 13,2005 1:14pm
powerkok said:
All I know, is cows werent put here to just look stupid and shit on themselves.

They were put here because theyre delicious!!


AMEN MY BROTHA!!!



toggletoggle post by Messerschmitt at Oct 13,2005 1:16pm
i saw a thing on the news a while ago about meat and how they're going to start or already started zapping the shit out of it with radiation among all the other shit they do to it. (now i'm starting to sound like a crunchy hippie). but that stuff just doesn't look right. hey, if it smells ok, eat it.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Oct 13,2005 1:18pm
powerkok said:
All I know, is cows werent put here to just look stupid and shit on themselves.

They were put here because theyre delicious!!


you probably wouldn't say that if you were just one step down on the food chain.



toggletoggle post by eddie  at Oct 13,2005 1:19pm edited Oct 13,2005 1:20pm
all i know is alot of sane vegetarians who have kids make there children eat meat in order for them to be healthy. I think that's proof enough that its not murder but just the food chain.

(sp)



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Oct 13,2005 1:21pm
funny fact:
more vegans go to the Outback Steakhouse than you would think.
At least 6 have come into my resturaunt in the past month, asking for gluten free-meatless meals.

Of course I rubbed steak all over their salads.
hahaha no.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Oct 13,2005 1:21pm
RustedAngel said:
powerkok said:
All I know, is cows werent put here to just look stupid and shit on themselves.

They were put here because theyre delicious!!


you probably wouldn't say that if you were just one step down on the food chain.



I bet I wouldnt 'say' anything if I were one step down on the food chain!!



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Oct 13,2005 1:56pm
i cant eat vegetables, they make me sick and i have trouble digesting alot of them. i know none of you will believe me, but its true



toggletoggle post by mark fucking richards at Oct 13,2005 2:50pm
my mother is a nutrionist/dietician so i have all the facts, surveys, pie charts, graphs, whatever the hell anyone needs.

pretty much the general facts are that a consistent vegetarian diet is the best for humans, especially for the digestive system, if followed correctly. fish and poultry are often considered part of a vegetarian diet.

veganism is one of the worst for the human body (other than just eating all the shitty junk foods and no healthy stuff of course) since vegans have to obtain key vitamins, minerals, proteins, and all that jazz, from sources that usually have negative side effects from long term use. example: too much soy will cause erectile dysfunction later on in life. SAVE THE BONERS! but, soy does reduce the risk of heart cancer.

having meat in our diet is not necessarily bad or good, it all really depends on how it fits into the diet. someone who incorporates a large amount of red meat into their diet is at more risk for certain diseases and conditions (like being fat, har har) that aren't very desirable. if the food pyramid is followed, we get everything we need, the right amount of taste, and no extra unneeded fat from meat and dairy.

i'd also like to note that most vegans will always argue that the human digestive system isn't fit to handle animal or animal bi-products. this is false. DAIRY and only some rare meats can cause digestive problems for humans. BUT, that's why we pastuerize/homogenize dairy products and most restaurants don't serve meat cooked below 'medium well.'




toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Oct 13,2005 2:53pm
People who do drugs and then go into rants about eating healthy are stupid.



toggletoggle post by ryanfromhbbsi still isnt fucking logged in at Oct 13,2005 2:55pm
soy will give you man tits



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Oct 13,2005 3:13pm
Joe/NotCommon said:
meat is self defense, id die if i didnt eat it


haha, brilliant.



toggletoggle post by soloman   at Oct 13,2005 3:26pm
there is nothing morally wrong with eating meat.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Oct 13,2005 3:38pm
soloman said:
there is nothing morally wrong with eating meat.


Quite the opposite, there is something morally wrong with not eating meat. I mean, letting all those cows roam around freely would destroy the earth.



toggletoggle post by mark fucking richards at Oct 13,2005 3:40pm
cows fart too much methane gas. that hurts the atmosphere. the more burgers the better.



toggletoggle post by BestialOnslaught  at Oct 13,2005 3:58pm
Main Entry: 1mur·der
Pronunciation: 'm&r-d&r
Function: noun
Etymology: partly from Middle English murther, from Old English morthor; partly from Middle English murdre, from Old French, of Germanic origin; akin to Old English morthor; akin to Old High German mord murder, Latin mort-, mors death, mori to die, mortuus dead, Greek brotos mortal
1 : the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought
2 a : something very difficult or dangerous <the traffic was murder> b : something outrageous or blameworthy <getting away with murder>


Hmmmm... Nope.



toggletoggle post by M))) at Oct 13,2005 3:59pm
Cow's can help spawn psilocybin containing mushrooms, I'd rather eat what they can possibly produce, than the cow itself.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Oct 13,2005 4:09pm
meat is murder you mean?

naww i'm sure you don't!



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Oct 13,2005 4:09pm
I am sickly looking



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Oct 13,2005 4:10pm
is that why you didn't email me back?
first joe ignored me and now you

sigh



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Oct 13,2005 4:12pm
I have email??



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Oct 13,2005 4:12pm
I am ignoring you?



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Oct 13,2005 4:13pm
Well first i had asked joe to help me work on something but i think he was too busy...then i emailed nic a month ago (this has nothing to do with the email i sent you guys last week)



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Oct 13,2005 4:17pm
i want a burger



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Oct 13,2005 4:36pm
I don't remember you asking me anything?!



toggletoggle post by diamond_dave  at Oct 14,2005 1:06am
i've been vegan for almost 10 years now. i think i'm pretty healthy looking. my doctor says i'm healthy. you have to take vitamins ( i take 1 multi a day) but you should do that no matter what your diet is.

for the record...i don't believe that killing and eating an animal is wrong. in fact i think it's natural. but i do have a problem with the way many animals are treated when they are alive, even on traditional farms, so i choose to not be a part of the system.



toggletoggle post by dwellingsickness at Oct 14,2005 1:53am
I am eating a big hunk of moose at the moment.....Go me!!!



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Oct 14,2005 9:17am
dwellingsickness said:
I am eating a big hunk of moose at the moment.....Go me!!!


Moose meat is awesome. I think it's way tastier than venison. Way better flavor and far less gamey. That's not to say I still won't try to shoot Bambi's dad this year -- though I will most likely fail as usual.



toggletoggle post by Ionsphere  at Oct 14,2005 9:24am
yes! mushrooms come from cow shit, its awesome and everyone should eat them



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Oct 19,2005 2:04pm edited Oct 19,2005 2:05pm
Yeti said:
our canines and molars werent designed for mashing plants, they were designed for shredding muscle and tissue. carnivores unite!


ummm....no...... I'm not a vegetarian but...

MEAT-EATER | HERBIVORE | HUMAN

MEAT-EATER: has sharp claws
HERBIVORE: no claws
HUMAN: no claws


MEAT-EATER: perspires through tongue, no skin pores
HERBIVORE: perspires through skin pores
HUMAN: perspires through skin pores


MEAT-EATER: sharp front teeth for tearing
HERBIVORE: no sharp front teeth
HUMAN: no sharp front teeth


MEAT-EATER: intestinal tract 3 times body length so rapidly decaying meat can pass out quickly
HERBIVORE: intestinal tract 10-12 times body length
HUMAN: intestinal tract 12 times body length


MEAT-EATER: Strong hydrochloric acid in stomach to digest meat
HERBIVORE: Stomach acid 20 times less strong than meat eaters
HUMAN: stomach acid 20 times less strong than meat eaters


MEAT-EATER: no flat molar teeth for grinding
HERBIVORE: has flat rear molars
HUMAN: has flat rear molars



toggletoggle post by anongoroth at Oct 19,2005 2:09pm
homo



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Oct 19,2005 3:25pm
i believe some of that, but i have sharp fucking front teeth and jagged rear molars that are perfect for steak, and i have a very difficult time with vegetables, but meat i have no problem digesting. thats just me but i dont think i'm the only one. we are actually more omnivores.



toggletoggle post by Ryan_M at Oct 19,2005 4:07pm
Yeti said:
we are actually more omnivores.


exactly, humans are adapted for eating both meat and vegetables. if you don't want to eat meat, fine, but don't argue that eating meat is "wrong" or that it's "bad for you", because it's not.



toggletoggle post by horror_tang  at Oct 19,2005 5:35pm
Joe/NotCommon said:
it's too bad such a good song is about such a dumb thing


Meat means murder? Hmmm, I am going out tonight to meat someone.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Oct 19,2005 6:07pm
RustedAngel said:

HERBIVORE: no claws


I take it you've never tried to pick up an angry rabbit?




toggletoggle post by retzam at Oct 19,2005 6:09pm
Joe/NotCommon said:
People who do drugs and then go into rants about eating healthy are stupid.


I see what you're getting at, but in a lot of ways, a bad diet can be more damaging than drugs. I'm no vegetarian mind you, but I try to not eat fast food and other incredibly fattening, non-nutritious foods too much. And yes, I do some drugs.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Oct 19,2005 6:09pm
anonymous said:
RustedAngel said:

HERBIVORE: no claws


I take it you've never tried to pick up an angry rabbit?




^That was me^

A quick question, are herbivores animals that can only eat plants and could not digest meat even if they were starving or are they any animal that prefers plants and rarely eats meat?



toggletoggle post by retzam at Oct 19,2005 6:14pm
That's a damn good question. I never even thought of that.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Oct 19,2005 6:20pm
Same question about what animals are considered carnivores because cats are usually considered carnivores but they eat catnip and if you've ever shared a house with cats you know they'll eat just about any flowers you put out.

I'm leaning toward there being no true carnivores or herbivores, that animals are capable of adapting and specializing to whatever food source is more available. And while yeah I get annoyed when some ALF douche is running their mouth about how a cheeseburger I'll eat once a month is going to kill me and causes unimagineable suffering I'm also sort of relieved that we're lucky enough to have a choice and are able to reject certain foods outright without having to worry about starving to death. Something tells me the Meat is murder arguement doesn't come up much in Sub-Saharan Africa.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Oct 19,2005 7:09pm
BobNOMAAMRooney said:
Something tells me the Meat is murder arguement doesn't come up much in Sub-Saharan Africa.


well no because they don't really have the capability/technology to produce or purchase the types of vegetarian food that we can. They probably don't even know what a vegetarian is.



toggletoggle post by eddie  at Oct 19,2005 8:13pm
how about people leave me alone and let me live how i want to.



toggletoggle post by mark fucking richards at Oct 19,2005 9:13pm
i'm with eddie.

story time...
when i went to mass art, some militant vegan lesbian in one off my classes saw me eating a cheeseburger, so she ran up to me and took it out of my hand, and said "what the hell are you doing?! do you even know what you're eating?!" blah blah blah...eventually she told me that meat is murder, so i grabbed the burger back, and said "yes, i know, but it's delicious murder" and shoved the whole thing in my mouth. it was great. now she hates me, heh heh



toggletoggle post by dwellingsickness at Oct 19,2005 9:41pm
Meat = Good Eats!. END OF STORY



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Oct 19,2005 10:30pm
RustedAngel said:
BobNOMAAMRooney said:
Something tells me the Meat is murder arguement doesn't come up much in Sub-Saharan Africa.


well no because they don't really have the capability/technology to produce or purchase the types of vegetarian food that we can. They probably don't even know what a vegetarian is.


Tom, are you implying that Africans don't have dirt, seeds, and water? That's SOOOOOOO Racist!!!!



toggletoggle post by my_pretentious_erection   at Oct 19,2005 10:37pm
milk is wrong though. except for strawberry milk that's cool.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Oct 19,2005 10:37pm
mark fucking richards said:
i'm with eddie.

story time...
when i went to mass art, some militant vegan lesbian in one off my classes saw me eating a cheeseburger, so she ran up to me and took it out of my hand, and said "what the hell are you doing?! do you even know what you're eating?!" blah blah blah...eventually she told me that meat is murder, so i grabbed the burger back, and said "yes, i know, but it's delicious murder" and shoved the whole thing in my mouth. it was great. now she hates me, heh heh


You must have gone to school with the same bitch at my high school.

Me:Allright, I'm gonna go get a burger, anyone want to come.
Chris:Sure
INTERRUPTING BULL DYKE VEGAN: IT BETTER BE A VEGGIE BURGER!
Me:Uhh, nope I don't like how those taste.
IBDV: DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DO TO THOSE ANIMALS BEFORE THEY SLAUGHTER THEM *long rambling diatrabe about how I am evil for eating meat*
Me: So what's up with those legalize marijuana and pro-choice pins on your bag?
IBDV: WHY ARE YOU CHANGING THE SUBJECT!?
Me: I'm not, you want to legalize marijuana and protect abortion because it's your body and it's natural or some gay bullshit. How is that any different from me wanting to eat some fucking lunch? My body, my choice. Go fuck yourself, I'm getting a burger.




toggletoggle post by retzam at Oct 19,2005 11:01pm
mark fucking richards said:
i'm with eddie.

story time...
when i went to mass art, some militant vegan lesbian in one off my classes saw me eating a cheeseburger, so she ran up to me and took it out of my hand, and said "what the hell are you doing?! do you even know what you're eating?!" blah blah blah...eventually she told me that meat is murder, so i grabbed the burger back, and said "yes, i know, but it's delicious murder" and shoved the whole thing in my mouth. it was great. now she hates me, heh heh



Hahahaha that's awesome.



toggletoggle post by mark fucking richards at Oct 19,2005 11:07pm
janssen, did she have short black hair and wore army pants/combat boots all the time? it could very well be the same person, haha



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Oct 19,2005 11:09pm
I don't know what her hair color was since she was always shaving her head to show how she didn't have to conform to a MAN's conception of attractiveness. Did the girl you went to school with have the worst case of acne in the history of skin?



toggletoggle post by mark fucking richards at Oct 19,2005 11:11pm
not too bad; she was butt though



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