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returntothepit >> discuss >> Church Arsonist Blames Black Metal and BURZUM... by AUTOPSY_666 on May 5,2005 2:46am
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toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at May 5,2005 2:46am
Church Arsonist Blames Burzum Singer

A devoted follower of a Scandinavian band notorious for its heavy metal anti-Christian music burnt down a majestic Moonee Ponds church in a multimillion-dollar arson attack.
Novak Majstorovic had drunken visions of the 107-year-old Ascot Vale Uniting Church being responsible for society's problems with law, ethics and morality.

Majstorovic, 19, admitted his passion for the band BURZUM, whose lead singer was allegedly involved in burning down numerous Norwegian churches in the 1990s, helped create a Heavy Metal ideological imagery based on good and evil.
"It can be explained through any real meanings, you know, but using God and Satan is just like a... it's an image," he told police after his arrest.

Victorian arson squad detectives treated Majstorovic as a suspect after investigations revealed his interest in BURZUM and "Black Metal" music and culture.

Police learnt the band's lead singer Varg Vikernes, now in jail for murder, was commonly referred to as a Satanist, but was regarded more as deeply anti-Christian and anti-Semitic.

Majstorovic yesterday appeared in the Melbourne Magistrates Court to plead guilty to arson and burglary from the fire in Maribyrnong Road, Moonee Ponds, on August 29, 2004.

In a summary tendered to the court, the church, widely used by its local community, was described as majestic and ornate. Its irreplaceable pipe organ and historic records were destroyed in the fire.

Majstorovic, who had drunk half a bottle of bourbon, had earlier left a party, telling guests he was going to burn the church. After entering, he lit Bibles, scrap paper, books and flags near the pulpit and left.
Asked days later by Detective Sergeant Andrew Kerr if he considered the elderly who had cried over the church or what it had stood for, Majstorovic replied: "It was what it stood for, but it's... it's just an object, you know. It's just a building. Faith lies with the individual."

Pressed by Sergeant Kerr about it being sacred and a "heart and soul of things", he said that the church "doesn't like people to cling to any sort of idols here on earth".

Majstorovic said that because he was drunk and near a church he thought he would act on an ideological belief the church was responsible for society's problems.

"A lot of the concepts of my ideologies and stuff would, sort of, stem from Heavy Metal, from the imagery of Heavy Metal, from the metaphors that Heavy Metal uses with the, like, Christian sort of metaphors of good and evil and such," he said.

Magistrate Lisa Hannan bailed Majstorovic, of Hoppers Crossing, to appear in the County Court on August 23.

http://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=13424





toggletoggle post by Abbath at May 5,2005 7:52am
what a retard, if you're going to burn down a church don't tell anyone! he sounds like an idiot anyways, like his trying to be Varg



toggletoggle post by ArmageddAnne   at May 5,2005 9:04am
That just made my day



toggletoggle post by malettey  at May 5,2005 9:19am edited May 5,2005 9:21am
i agree with abbath. the kid's comments are fuckin retarded too, "oh, it's only an object, it's only a building....the church doesn't like people to cling to idols on earth" oh, so you burned a church just because it's only a building and so people wouldn't cling to it as a false idol....good excuse dickhead.
sounds to me like he just burned the church to be more "metal" and be looked on as a "strong" black metal leader, now he's shitting his pants, trying to talk his way out of a jail sentence, and basically blaming heavy metal for his actions. what a little douche.



toggletoggle post by ArmageddAnne   at May 5,2005 9:25am
He won't get out of that jail sentence anyway...he forgot we live in a Male White Christian world.



toggletoggle post by destroyyoualot  at May 5,2005 9:33am
Keepin' it real, yo!



toggletoggle post by infoterror  at May 5,2005 10:21am



toggletoggle post by litacore   at May 5,2005 10:44am
that kid needs a girlfriend

but instead he's going to be getting boyfriends



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at May 5,2005 11:01am
litacore said:
that kid needs a girlfriend

but instead he's going to be getting boyfriends


Haha!



toggletoggle post by infoterror  at May 5,2005 11:33am
Why do they always burn the churches after the people leave?



toggletoggle post by CNV at May 5,2005 1:49pm
The world needs more Burzum fans...



toggletoggle post by Christraper at May 5,2005 2:04pm
litacore said:
that kid needs a girlfriend

but instead he's going to be getting boyfriends


god i hope i never go to prison



toggletoggle post by anonymous at May 5,2005 2:05pm
once again, Black Metal's for fags



toggletoggle post by mOe_rk nli at May 5,2005 2:52pm
that was me, by the way



toggletoggle post by Christraper at May 5,2005 2:56pm
BLAH BLAH BLAH I HATE BLACK METAL BLAH BLAH BLACK METAL IS FOR FAGS BLAH BLAH I PLAY WITH BLACK METAL BANDS BLAH BLAH BLAH....



toggletoggle post by BestialOnslaught  at May 5,2005 2:57pm
mOe_rk nli said:
that was me, by the way


Should have figured, your posts do tend to always have that sucky quality...



toggletoggle post by Christraper at May 5,2005 2:58pm
Moe's black.....and he's a damn good drummer so i suppose that makes him metal.....soooooooooo......wouldnt that make him........dare i say......balck metal?



toggletoggle post by BestialOnslaught  at May 5,2005 3:00pm
I have yet to see him say anything remotely Metal...



toggletoggle post by CNV at May 5,2005 3:00pm
BestialOnslaught said:
mOe_rk nli said:
that was me, by the way


Should have figured, your posts do tend to always have that sucky quality...



Hahaha...



toggletoggle post by BSV at May 5,2005 4:30pm
excellent news, where did this take place???



toggletoggle post by dan. at May 5,2005 4:42pm
BestialOnslaught said:
I have yet to see him say anything remotely Metal...



he likes zao and thinks black metal is for fags. hmm....



toggletoggle post by BestialOnslaught  at May 5,2005 6:45pm
Haha QED...



toggletoggle post by trial by fire at May 5,2005 7:04pm
he is also in a metal core band.



toggletoggle post by Blue  at May 5,2005 8:01pm
well, burzum certainly does suck. sorry.



toggletoggle post by dan. at May 5,2005 8:26pm
Blue said:
well, burzum certainly does suck. sorry.



no, saying burzum sucks doesnt make any sense.

over rated? maybe.

but no, burzum doesnt suck by any stretch of the imagination. sorry, you lose.



toggletoggle post by BSV at May 5,2005 8:30pm
next to Cryptopsy, Burzum is my all time favorite band. I finally took filosofem out of my stero after listening to it everyday for 2 and a half months. Burzum is a apart of my life.



toggletoggle post by Blue  at May 5,2005 8:36pm
im not trying to dis anyone, i definetly do think theyre highly overrated though. they dont do anything for me. but i will say my stance on black metal is close to moes, so you guys can sling some shit at me too.



toggletoggle post by BSV at May 5,2005 8:57pm
Blue, it's excellent music to burn up to, trust me.



toggletoggle post by mOe_rk at May 5,2005 10:11pm
i'm not a very metal guy, i'm not a very metalcore guy either...anyone who knows me will tell you i'm a huge pussy who's all about the post punk



toggletoggle post by mOe_rk at May 5,2005 10:13pm
i just think its funny that most of the people on this board trash metalcore and hardcore all the time, and me or anyone else who listens to said genres never say a word about it. But the second i trash black metal everyone's up my ass...oh you guys



toggletoggle post by BestialOnslaught  at May 5,2005 10:35pm
The second you trash BM? I've seen you post about disliking Black Metal probably half a dozen times. And that's precisely why Blue doesn't get shit slung at him about it, cause he doesn't seem to feel the need to remind everyone about his feelings every time the words "Black Metal" come up. Though I have had discussions with him about Black Metal, so I am a bit confused by his second response.

Also, you were whining HARD in the FASSW(ASL?) getting beat up thread because people were bashing Metalcore/Fashioncore, so none of this "never say a word about it crap", please. It's particularly entertaining to me that you act so shocked and surprised that a bunch of cynical, sarcastic Metal, Hardcore and Metalcore fans (like those that post here) would make jokes about your friends getting the crap kicked out of them.



toggletoggle post by coldnorthernvengeance  at May 5,2005 10:43pm edited May 5,2005 10:43pm
Fashion core?!....hahahahahaa. Total faggotry...



toggletoggle post by dan. at May 6,2005 10:56am
i dont even fucking get why someone would say 'black metal is for fags'. it just seems to me like people get way to wrapped up in image, but when it comes right down to it...the vast majority of black metal is fucking a thousand times more brutal than any gay shit you listen to. so i would say...anyone who thinks black metal is for fags, only cares about the way black metal musicians look, thus making them a total fucking fag.

its science.




toggletoggle post by blue  at May 6,2005 11:59am
BestialOnslaught said:
Though I have had discussions with him about Black Metal, so I am a bit confused by his second response.


i like a scant few black metal bands, it doesnt go that far however.



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at May 6,2005 1:19pm edited May 6,2005 1:21pm
It does seem people can't get past the image surrounding black metal, that its all about corpse paint, sheeps heads, church burnings, etc. The fact remains there are a great many amazingly brilliant, original , and most importantly BRUTAL black metal bands that you will miss out on simply because you don't like the way these guys look. Well, if you are LISTENING with your eyes , you're not really into the MUSIC aspect of metal in general



toggletoggle post by blue  at May 6,2005 1:26pm
i base all music on how the image is. which is why im so heavily into blue man group. definetly some of the most influential stuff in my life.



toggletoggle post by moe_rk at May 6,2005 1:38pm
hahahaha, oh man...its just a website guys calm down
and i wasnt getting pissed about people making jokes about metalcore, i never care about that, From a Second Story Window just so happen to be very good friends of mine, so i felt the need to say something about it..i'm sure i explained that in the thread...and the "gay shit" i listen to may be "gay" as you say it, but at least the music that i truly love doesnt need a gimmick to hide lack of musical ability



toggletoggle post by moe_rk at May 6,2005 1:40pm
i dont have ALL black metal...Anaal Nathrakh is cool



toggletoggle post by blue  at May 6,2005 1:40pm
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT



toggletoggle post by moe_rk at May 6,2005 1:40pm
*hate



toggletoggle post by dan. at May 6,2005 1:41pm
moe_rk said:

the music that i truly love doesnt need a gimmick to hide lack of musical ability



you are a fucking idiot.



toggletoggle post by blue  at May 6,2005 1:43pm
moes not talking about metalcore when he said that, by the way. nobody on this board listens to what he considers his favorite genre of music, so you cant say shit on that.



toggletoggle post by moe_rk at May 6,2005 1:52pm
hellz yea, son...fucking mainstream rap and r&b...YYYYEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at May 6,2005 1:56pm
body count, body count!



toggletoggle post by moe_rk at May 6,2005 1:59pm
HAHAHAHAHA



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