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returntothepit >> discuss >> Diamond/Dimebag Darrel by powerkok on Nov 30,2004 2:44pm
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toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Nov 30,2004 2:44pm
This is another guy that falls into the Zakk Wylde category....Although he shows more solo ability on albums, he rips shit up live too.
I must say tho, the new band he has is pretty lackluster.



toggletoggle post by abhorred  at Nov 30,2004 2:46pm
"pretty lackluster" is the understatment of the decade



toggletoggle post by abhorred  at Nov 30,2004 2:46pm
he is a good guitarist though



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 30,2004 3:00pm
dimebag has written waaay more memorable solo's and riff's than zakk wylde will ever write!



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Nov 30,2004 3:00pm
damage plan sucks.....



toggletoggle post by the great litacore at Nov 30,2004 3:07pm
mucho caca!



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Nov 30,2004 3:07pm
mucho mucho caca



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Nov 30,2004 3:07pm
mucho mierda



toggletoggle post by the great litacore at Nov 30,2004 3:08pm
with peanuts in it!



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Nov 30,2004 3:08pm
I used to listen to pantera all the time however so I don't despise dimebag or vinnie paul as musicians, just the turds for songs they poop out now



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Nov 30,2004 3:09pm
and corn



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Nov 30,2004 3:09pm
in the poop that is



toggletoggle post by the great litacore at Nov 30,2004 3:14pm
this thread has taken quite a turn, heh



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Nov 30,2004 3:16pm
yeah the focus turned to shit har har har



toggletoggle post by Hooker  at Nov 30,2004 3:37pm
Dime is better than zakk. Zakk is alot more meat and potatoes. But that's not really the issue here. Or... uh... nevermind.



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Nov 30,2004 3:39pm
they're both guitarists who are inconsistent with the music they choose to play, the bands and the songs...



toggletoggle post by Hooker  at Nov 30,2004 3:40pm
???



toggletoggle post by Aegathis nli at Nov 30,2004 3:57pm
that 1st black label cd is pretty fucking lame compared to anything pantera did. I like the 1st song though.



toggletoggle post by Blue  at Nov 30,2004 6:24pm
dime forget how to play guitar. when pantera died, so did dimes ability to write brutal riffs. dime used to write extreme music, but all of a sudden pantera breaks up in the middle of nu metals demise, so what does he do? form a nu metal band.



toggletoggle post by handinjury at Nov 30,2004 8:04pm
Blue said:
dime forget how to play guitar. when pantera died, so did dimes ability to write brutal riffs. dime used to write extreme music, but all of a sudden pantera breaks up in the middle of nu metals demise, so what does he do? form a nu metal band.


" dimes ability to write brutal riffs" , " dime used to write extreme music".

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Ohh shit, its like comic relief on RTTP today!



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Nov 30,2004 8:06pm
are you insinuating that he didnt write brutal riffs?
because if you are, you are a silly bastid.



toggletoggle post by Blue  at Nov 30,2004 8:21pm
sorry, dime sure as hell wasnt writing death metal riffs. but if you think he wasnt writing some heavy ass shit, i sure as hell dont know what to say.



toggletoggle post by handinjury at Nov 30,2004 8:23pm
powerkok said:
are you insinuating that he didnt write brutal riffs?
because if you are, you are a silly bastid.


Um....YES I AM (but i am a silly bastid thou). Dont get me wrong pantera was fucking great back in the day, but there is nothing "brutal" about pantera. Dime is a great guitar player and has his own sound & tone, a great metal player, but its not brutal, suffocation and gorgasm is brutal. Mouth for war is one of my fav pantera songs , thats not brutal. Its just great heavy metal. The term brutal should only be applied to extrteme situations. Like teratism, thats brutal. Goratory, thats brutal.
But what do i know............................



toggletoggle post by Blue  at Nov 30,2004 8:51pm
to me, it does not have to be death metal to be brutal.



toggletoggle post by Hooker  at Nov 30,2004 8:57pm
If you call yourself a death metal band you have clearance to write brutal riffs. Other than that, sorry pal. It's just the way it goes I guess.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Nov 30,2004 9:01pm
mouth for war is radio pantera. and I agree that its not a 'brutal' song persey. but, brutal isnt reserved for death metal only.
Reinventing the steel has BRUTAL riffs all day long.



toggletoggle post by Hooker  at Nov 30,2004 9:28pm
Sorry man. According to this handbook....



toggletoggle post by terrence lee at Nov 30,2004 9:37pm
they should have gone back to being a glam band insted of being numetal gayness



toggletoggle post by Hooker  at Nov 30,2004 9:38pm
Hey Terrence!! Wanna start a band?


-Ron McGovney



toggletoggle post by BestialOnslaught  at Nov 30,2004 11:19pm
It doesn't have anything to do with what subgenre they fit into, the riffs really aren't THAT brutal. Sure PANTERA was a loud live band, cause they could afford equipment.

I certainly wouldn't call PANTERA an out and out Nu/Not-Metal band, but I think it's obvious the impact they had on that style, especially with Vulgar Display, Far Beyond Driven... They had a lot of really really dumb riffs and songs. Good as an introduction to better Metal maybe, but as far as lasting appeal, I just don't see it. Jock Rock... I don't see why people are surprised by what DAMAGE PLAN is like.

As for the subject at hand, I think Darrell had some songwriting talent early on, and soloing/technical talent until today, but nothing innovative or special.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Dec 9,2004 3:27pm
RIP DIME!



toggletoggle post by dan. at Dec 9,2004 3:29pm
terrence lee said:
they should have gone back to being a glam band insted of being numetal gayness


good one terrence! that made alot of sense and it was funny/clever!!!



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 9,2004 3:31pm
i totally missed this thread back when it was started



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Dec 9,2004 3:32pm
wow dan, you're really zinging a lot of people today. congrats.



toggletoggle post by dan. at Dec 9,2004 3:36pm
ouch



toggletoggle post by Mike Proteus at Dec 9,2004 4:22pm
handinjury said:
powerkok said:
are you insinuating that he didnt write brutal riffs?
because if you are, you are a silly bastid.


Um....YES I AM (but i am a silly bastid thou). Dont get me wrong pantera was fucking great back in the day, but there is nothing "brutal" about pantera. Dime is a great guitar player and has his own sound & tone, a great metal player, but its not brutal, suffocation and gorgasm is brutal. Mouth for war is one of my fav pantera songs , thats not brutal. Its just great heavy metal. The term brutal should only be applied to extrteme situations. Like teratism, thats brutal. Goratory, thats brutal.
But what do i know............................


The sound of brutality, like anything in music, can be subjective. I wouldn't really use the term "brutal" to describe Pantera's overall sound either but some of their stop and go riffs like the ones in Throes of Rejection or 5 minutes alone are pretty violent...



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