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returntothepit >> discuss >> The boston Phoenix by swamplorddvm on Oct 1,2004 1:57pm
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toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Oct 1,2004 1:57pm
Anybody read the Phoenix? They had thet article about basment shows and the HOSS and shit. twas cool. Great pic of Jonah playing the drums, Succubus. btw.

http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_f...top/features/documents/04162636.asp



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Oct 1,2004 1:58pm
forgive me if this has been done already.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Oct 1,2004 1:58pm
i'm not going to complain of a double post because it involves me

wooooooooooooooooo

<3



toggletoggle post by d.crayon at Oct 1,2004 2:05pm
i was reading the article today on the train. i started laughing out loud about the part where 81 lindens place got trashed and someone sawed the toilet seat. only because i'm pissed off at one of the kids who lives there...



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Oct 1,2004 2:11pm
uh oh



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Oct 1,2004 2:13pm
I feel so much cooler for living in JP now.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Oct 1,2004 2:44pm
yeah that article is controversial.

truth be told, it did all the stuff I was afraid it was going to do, just more tastefully in the process. (sighs)

2 quotes from Ben Sisto does not really show what he's done for Boston music, and despite however you may or may not feel about Jonah on a personal level, he has actually done some good stuff for the underground music community and deserves at least a tiny mention, maybe at least one line considering he's one of the few people booking that type of hardcore in Boston right now. Craig was never mentioned, Ross was never mentioned; Al Quint? Like he never existed. Instead, the article was just HOSS worship. And Bloodstains?? was that a joke? It's been around for fewer shows than your average 14 year old that just read his or her first issue of MRR...they should have titled the article "The NEW basement scene", not just say it was generally about Basement shows.

Oh well, better luck next time.

Carina's photo was stand-out. The fisheye should be TM at this point in time.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Oct 1,2004 2:49pm
TM?



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Oct 1,2004 2:52pm
trademark, sister.

make that your personal shizzle, you know what I'm sayin' girlfriend?



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Oct 1,2004 2:52pm
How is the article controversial?



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Oct 1,2004 2:55pm
aside from the stuff in that paragraph I wrote?

well, it exposes an illegal underbelly that may or may not do better from the exposure...it's like an article about frat house gambling or something.

plus there are non-punk basement shows.

but maybe I'm the only one that cares. (shrugs) And maybe I don't care all that much.


Life moves on.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Oct 1,2004 3:23pm
oh ok



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Oct 1,2004 3:23pm
some bands don't like it

and i was insulted by certain people for using it..

but whatever

i try to mix it up



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 1,2004 3:29pm
nicks point is kind of something that I thought of myself.
like the BBD DVD exposing the FSU/hardcore boston life...

in all honesty, this one article in a fruity magazine is "low key" and will mostly be read by the people that frequent such places and not by the police and the FBI.
02. cents.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Oct 1,2004 3:41pm
hahahah are you calling the Phoenix "fruity"?



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Oct 1,2004 3:42pm
I still don't see how any of that is controversial?



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Oct 1,2004 3:48pm
i guess the best way to explain it would be:

"Metal Scene in Boston made What it is By Shred! -

Boston, MA - They have long hair, they wear black clothes, and boy do they worship Satan. I'm not talking about witches, though some of them are. These are metalheads, tried and true.

Metal may not date back to Metallica, but who remembers anyone but them? Starting metal from scratch in California in the 90's with 'The Black Album', Metallica spawned numerous fans and thousands of bands eager to emulate their icons.

'Metal is really what makes Boston what it is,' said the owner of Jarrod's place, Boston's premier hot spot for live metal, 'without promoters like Shred and without clubs like this, we wouldn't have what we have. Horns up!'

The horns, symbolizing the need to kill, has brought many a metal head into the police. Sure, metalheads don't hate all Christians, but the BPD seems to disagree.

'These guys make it hard for us to do our jobs,' said Lt O'Reilly, 'We don't know where they will strike next. Luckily, the metalheads in this town are all easily recognizable by their black clothes, so we can nab them for drug trafficing whenever possible.'

'Metal is awesome!' says Eri Paone, singer for Candy Striper Death Orgy, 'it's too bad the only 2 bands in metal right now are us and 13 Winters.'"


the article reads like that if you know the Boston Basement scene history.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Oct 1,2004 3:53pm
the_taste_of_cigarettes said:

the article reads like that if you know the Boston Basement scene history.


You're forgetting the part where the Phoenix tries to describe every metal band's sound as "A collision of Converge-like cacophony and earnest/tortured vocals."



toggletoggle post by Huh? at Oct 1,2004 11:00pm
Where was the quote from the owner of Jarrod's Place? I skimed the article and couldn't find it.

Or did you make that up to make a point?



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Oct 1,2004 11:03pm
it was like an analogy.

I was using the same technique the article used to talk about basement shows to talk about metal.

The article showed its sources too well, in that the author only talked to a certain group of people he / she was finding at the same shows. If they wanted a real story on basement shows, they would have spread out more. Instead the author asked maybe 5 kids and wrote a 3 page article on that.

How could he/she have missed out on the huge contributions of people like Ben, or Craig, or Al, or Ross, or even Bill Toxic? I dunnow, I guess it just seemed...rigged. (shrugs)



toggletoggle post by th3rdknuckle at Oct 1,2004 11:07pm
errr...



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Oct 1,2004 11:10pm
like I said, if it's hard to understand, read the "parody" article I concocted about Metal and you'll see why i feel the way i do. Did Metallica REALLY start metal?? Is Shred the ONLY person booking shows around boston?? Is Jarrod's place what you think of when you think "new england metal"?



toggletoggle post by Huh? at Oct 1,2004 11:19pm
Oh, k, makes sense now.



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