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ark said

When you say Mayhem is no longer relevant, what you are doing is parroting the same garbage that clueless hip music "journalists" and frustrated grandiose blog/forum dwellers are selling.

No he's not. He's saying they're no longer relevant in the sense they were a fleeting part of a picture in time that was second wave BM. I get what you mean -- that using the word "relevant" implies "you need to be new and hip and get with the times and read Brooklynvegan" but he's really just saying Mayhem's past significance is inflated in mythology. No need to stir up your baggage about the subject.

I'm willing to concede that point. What it looked like to me was discounting Mayhem's last record just on account of their being irrelevant now. Which would be lame, but I can see the other valid way of looking at it. Agreed Deathcrush isn't good and most of their output after De Mysteriis, the Maniac stuff is not great either. I think Ordo Ad Chao is different and redeemed them. Fuck it.