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:	post by Yeti at 2012-03-02 13:14:28

Alx_Casket said	[orig][quote]
my scenario: you pray for someone who doesn't know you're praying for them yours: "John, the entire church is praying every night for you to get better! Hope Jesus doesn't let us down!"

fair enough. in that case then yes prayer would do nothing, aside from maybe help the one praying to cope with what they are praying about.

see to me, the fundamental difference between prayer and meditation, despite the benefits of both, is that prayer is an attempted communication to a higher being, whereas meditation is an attempted communication to oneself. prayer and meditation may have many similarities, but i think that religious prayer is selling oneself short. you're never going to get an answer through prayer, but you can find a whole new sense of self through meditation. then again, i think that if someone really wants to journey to the center of self, just do mushrooms.

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