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:	post by RustyPS at 2011-07-24 18:51:58

Lamp%20nli said

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The problem with Scion is predatory pricing... smaller DIY labels can't afford to give out free music or put on huge free concerts, so the music of a lot of hard working individuals is left under the radar while Scion gets to use their power to dictate what is cool to us, and to associate their product with fond memories we have of music. It's manipulative and deceitful in every sense of the word and bands who let Scion release their music are throwing the entire underground under the bus.

Maybe they should change their model, but I don't see harm in bands taking free money when it's being offered for playing a few shows and nothing more. You can claim to stick to a certain ethic all you want, but getting paid and not "selling out" sounds like the perfect situation to me.

This solution also ignores the root of the problem, and that problem is that a lot of DIY folks are fucking whiners. You try charging more than $6 for a show, $10 for a shirt, $4 for a 7", it becomes hissy fit central. Prices of gas and well, basically everything else are going up, and if we as a collective could agree to suck it up and pay higher prices in order to sustain our network, we wouldn't need an outside source that doesn't understand the importance of what people sacrifice for their tunes like Scion to step in and fill the void. Accepting corporate help is like saying that DIY is simply not worth saving.

Well, while I agree with most of what you said, "the root of the problem" is not exactly easy to resolve at all. Try to get more than 3 random people to agree to do anything, it's like fucking rocket science. i bet you ask 10 random people that go to a show to accept what you say, and 7 of them will laugh in your face, and/or say fuck no, I got bills to pay.

Truth of the matter is, prices are going up for everyone, not just bands, and bands, no matter if you think they're great or not, are the ones who sacrifice the most for shows. This is going to sound like me bitching about being in a band, but I don't care. Most bands don't have roadies to load their equipment in and out, most bands don't have a sound guy to make sure they sound like they want to sound, most bands don't get paid to play a show they went an hour+ out of their way to play just so people get to hear them that aren't the same 10-15 people that show up to every other show they play, and if they do get paid, they're lucky if they get more than $20. If Scion approached Crippling Fear tomorrow, and said, "hey, we want you to play a show down in Florida, all expenses paid, and you can play whatever the fuck you want," I'd say fucking sign me up, and I guarantee 99.9% of bands would do the same if given the opportunity, no matter what their beliefs/ethics/morals are.

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