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:	post by ArrowHeadNLI at 2011-03-25 17:32:20

Nope. it still more demanding to play QUIETLY. Even in your own example. Less volume = more control = more use of stabilizer muscles and micro movements which is both more physically demanding on the body AND takes longer to develop proper muscle memory. You're not gonna change science with your opinion of drumming. I understand though, your preferred technique is to play loud.

Secondly you say you work live sound, but you hope soundman doesn't use compression? I will NEVER play where you do sound. Run one show with no compression on the drum buss, or on the kick channel. I'd like to know how long people stick around to listen to the feedback. Most soundmen worth their salt aren't recognizing good sounds and not destroying it with compression. They just using it right off the bat, as is the standard in live reinforcement. They're trying to fit you to their room, not the other way around dude.

Giving a soundguy a stereo direct out to the PA, and telling them that that out is already compressed, treated, etc... is going to give you a LOT more control over the outcome. Granted, he may still choose to compress it, but you've still eliminated mic choice, room sound, etc... from the variables you're dealing with.

And when you say "you could, in theory" have multi velocity samples - not in theory. IN PRACTICE. I have it right here in my living room. I have several dozen drumkits worth of raw samples, multi-velocity, with complete control over every single variable including MIC BLEED. Every good set of samples since the original DFH has been multi-sampled like this. It's nothing new.

Well mixed drums sound awesome. But you have no control over how your live kit is miced or sounds (unless you bring your own mics and submixer, in which case you are amazing (not sarcastic - this is the best case scenario). With triggers, YOU control your sound. The soundman just gets a 1/4 inch cable. As for the sound, you just gotta understand that what YOU like is just as easily done with triggers as what you DON'T like. You're blaming triggers for something that is just a drummer's personal choice.

MODERN e-drums + samples:

bennyhillifier

note the tracking and variety of sounds on the snare alone, when he switched to traditional grip. Every little ghost note and ruff. Listen to the variety and different volumes/sounds he gets out of the kick.

bennyhillifier

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