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:	post by brodown at 2011-03-25 17:08:46

You're wildly misconstruing what I meant. Maybe that's because I'm speaking in generalities, but we're also talking quite generally...

When you're talking about playing "softly" in a dynamics sense, of course it takes more control to play at extreme low volume. If you want to get technical about it, the muscle control that it takes to play at pp or ppp is drastically more intense than playing at mf or f. No argument there.

I'm talking about metal here, so instead of the difference between pp and mp, we're talking about the difference between f and fff (if you are of the sense to believe that such dynamics markings above or below pp and ff actually mean anything.) Playing really fucking fast really fucking loud is a lot harder than playing really fucking fast not so fucking loud. Most bands metal bands that regularly use triggers aren't concerned with playing like Elvin Jones. I don't really know many drummers in our scene that need to play super fast super quiet, and if they did, they'd be told "PLAY LOUDER OR CHINATOWN!"

I know how sound works in a club. I do live sound, and work in the audio industry full time. I just like having instruments that sound good, before they're miced up. We play basements as often as clubs, and I'd rather my shit sound good before its manipulated electronically than not. If I am in a big club with a sound system that's worthwhile, I'd hope the sound guy is worth the air he's breathing. If he uses his ears instead of his eyes, he'll recognize a good sound and won't NEED to destroy the kick with EQ or compress the life out of it. Sure, a sound guy can ruin the sound of an acoustic instrument, but just because you use a trigger doesn't mean that that signal isn't then compressed or EQ'd to the same degree.

You're right that you can use velocity sensitive triggers, and that you could, in theory, have several different velocity sensitive samples too. But, if they're gonna sound EXACTLY the same, as you claim, then what's the point of using them? If it sounds exactly the same as an acoustic instrument, then why lug the extra gear?

You're right, not all triggers lack sensitivity, and not all drummers that use them are using a DM5. But, most drummers that use them regularly aren't using them in the method you described, and are trying to cover up for their own inconsistencies. It sounds cool for Drive By Bukkake, but in that case Sam is trying to mimic a drum machine. I'm not the one stuck in '95, I don't use the shit at all. I'm not saying you're stuck in '95 either...but most users are.

All I'm really getting at is that loud, live, well-mixed drums SOUND FUCKING AWESOME.

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