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New site? Maybe some day. Username: SPAM Filter: re-type this (values are 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,A,B,C,D,E, or F) Message: UBB enabled. HTML disabled Spam Filtering enabledIcons: (click image to insert) Show All - pop Select Color orange orange-red crimson red firebrick dark red green limegreen teal silver sea-green deeppink tomato coral purple indigo burlywood sandy brown sienna chocolate FONTXXSmallXSmallSmallMediumLargeXLXXL :DG: A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z Char† ‡ ‰ ♠ ♣ ♥ ♦ ‾ ← ↑ → ↓ ™ – —   ¡ ¢ £ ¤ ¥ ¦ § ¨ © ª « ¬ ­ ® ¯ ° ± ² ³ ´ µ ¶ · ¸ ¹ º » ¼ ½ ¾ ¿ À Á Â Ã Ä Å Æ Ç È É Ê Ë Ì Í Î Ï Ð Ñ Ò Ó Ô Õ Ö × Ø Ù Ú Û Ü Ý Þ ß à á â ã ä å æ ç è é ê ë ì í î ï ð ñ ò ó ô õ ö ÷ ø ù ú û ü ý þ ÿ b i u  add: url  image  video(?) : post by ouchdrummer at 2009-05-04 13:09:28 Martins Said: "When did I say they should suck it up? You clearly have a bias here and that's okay but you have to understand that illegal immigration is ILLEGAL, no matter how positive the outcomes are for the "perpetrator." But please don't ever call me cold hearted or delusional. " Well then explain something to me please. When this scenario happens, what do you think these people should do? You don't agree that they should be allowed to stay, because like you said "a crime is a crime" So what other options are there? I can't think of any besides either sucking it up or sneaking in. Maybe you don't quite understand what i was saying, but in the situation that i was talking about, there really AREN'T any other options. And saying we shouldn't allow them to stay when they've done everything in their power to do it legally (because a crime is a crime) does imply something in the "suck it up" catagory. Now i don't think that should be our protocol, I think what needs to happen is major immigration reform, but until that point, our country was build on the idea that all men are created equal, and no matter where you were born, and no matter what color your skin, you should have the same chance as anyone else to have a life not overriden with poverty. So while obviously i can't deny that it's illegal, i can say that there SHOULD be a protocol for the situation i gave, and it should include giving these people a chance at life.

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