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: post by Mcgillacheese at 2009-03-21 03:25:58
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Spacecorpse, both you and graveside have had a rough past but we have equally busted each others chops a great deal. Both parties have to admit sometimes it was funny, sometimes it was annoying and sometimes it was just all in fun but we think it would be cool if both parties put it past us and say you know what we had some cool times all in all despite most of the name calling and ball busting. We truly did like your guitar work and still think it has become well developed in its style and such, you are a good musician and you know your shit and that cant be taken away from anyone. Maybe things weren't meant to be the way they turned out but we are past that now and you know what we actually dont have anything against you anymore. We introduced you to some cool things and you have done the same for us and that cant be denied. Life is very short and like minded people are hard to come by. You like doing the cops and thats your thing you know how it is. We like doing Graveside and thats our thing. Infact some of the Krotoan songs were killer and some of the cops tunes were funny and definitely George. And when people see Graveside they may not like it but its us and its what we do and you gotta give us credit for not changing for anyone just like we give you credit for not changing for anyone. Anyway the point is that were not in it to be assholes and we are cool with you even after all of the bullshit.


Well it's tough to figure out if you are trying to really smooth things over between us, or you really just want me to stop posting funny things about you on this site, or elsewhere. I don't sense mockery or sarcasm in your tone so i'm going to think it's to get some closure or resolve to our status as sworn enemies.

I will say this - It's very hard to confirm who's who over the internet and especially on a site like this. You must understand that if your main issue is the negative/comical postings on here - i'm NOT the only one doing it. And there's no way to know that even if we say alright, let's just end this stuff, that someone else won't come on here and impersonate me and do it so well that you think that I went back on my word or something. You remember what happened after we shook on it at the record store, only to get it confused days later and it restarted a war again over misunderstandings.

Basically how the whole thing started was that there was a lot of drama in the band, with your family because of the things going on at the time(you know what I'm talking about), with my own stuff(depression), and I wanted to get away from it so I could recharge and get a breath of air from it. I think it would have made the difference. But when you all didn't want to give me that right away, I started resenting things even more until I lost my temper one day at practice and what happened next you know it ....

Basically I just want you to know that it wasn't the fact that so and so had a girlfriend and I was jealous, or whatever you made it out to be. My best friend has a girlfriend right now and we have the strongest relationship we ever had. I feel it's the way I was treated by certain people at the time and adding to that a lot of other small things that piled on the tension to make me not be able to handle it anymore rationally. I feel like I was ganged up on real early and like you were all waiting to see the dark and bad side of me come out again so you could distance yourself and that's what I feel happened and all too quickly in the blink of an eye it was too far gone to go back again. When I had people like (hi-lee) come to me and tell me things that you said like george is dangerous and must be stopped and all that I was truly shocked at how you could think that of me after we were so close for almost a year. People don't change into monsters overnight, well sometimes they do but in my case I just needed time to cool off and hearing these hateful things didn't help it at all at the time. It doesn't matter who was lying and all that at this point so let's not even go there and waste the time.

Everyone makes mistakes and if we could undo them and go back in time there would be no problems on this earth, but that's why we live and learn and have no choice in the matter. So that's all I have to say about this basically. I don't really know what you want or expect to achieve by posting this message to me here, we know we can expect a TON of gay pics and messages to follow this because it is wicked emo and non metal to communicate our feelings like this and such.

As far as the bands you mentioned, I think you guys(graveside) did the best you could do at the time by going on. I wouldn't have played as many shows with no guitars or some substitute(like a big floor bass or cello or SOMETHING at least to fill the sound) but you did it...whatever, fine. as for my after graveside musical projects like kroatoan, i'm pretty pleased with the stuff and I liked the stuff I played, but the fact of the matter was that it was not a real band. The guy that put the electronic percussion/drums didn't even like black metal at all, and when the other guy tried to make me go over the kids house(who I hardly even knew at the time) and beg him to put drums on the stuff and pressing the material etc. was all up to me all of a sudden, it really fell apart. The cops on hiatus and that solo project was my favorite thing because I got to use some of the music I always wanted to use and it all came together. I'm not currently doing anything and that's by choice. Just not feeling up to it or particularly inspired at the moment, but there's still maybe lots of time to still do music. After all, i'm not as old as jon is ha ha ha that penguin is wicked old ha ha ha ha.

So to quote your subject topic Not that bad. It's really not, no one ever came to blows with this stuff. And I never even once drove by your house looking to kick your ass or anything. That was all heated verbage people say when they are mad. I was mad and did want to beat you guys up at times, but that's about it, we all cool down in time and after all, you didn't harm my family or destroy my property or tried to invade my liberties as a human being or anything like that, so the rest is trite and petty. So let's keep it at that then? what do you say?
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