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:	post by Conservationist at 2008-11-08 18:55:34

ThirdKnuckle said

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Yeah, people here are liberals. That's what happened to metal post-1995

So what do you think happened to metal in 1995 to cause this to happen?

He asks the vital question...

I think it fired its initial wad, and those making it had allowed too much of their consciousness to be focused on what they hated, not what they loved enough to create -- so they ran out of topic matter, except self-referentiality.

Further, as it got popular, the clueless arrived and outnumbered those who could find a clue, and started demanding really stupid versions of good stuff. So new bands started cloning the old...

Finally, it kept searching for external ways to grow -- adding flutes, singing about ancient Ethiopia, etc -- instead of finding ways to get better at what it was.

And then endless scenester/hipster types flooded in and did the same thing they did to hardcore ten years before:

1. Demand conformist viewpoints.
2. Demand easily-digestible music.
3. Soon everyone has a band, a zine, a label... and none rise above the crowd.

If you every meet a savvy punk from the old days, they'll describe how punk failed in the same language. I started as a punk, and an old guy (probably 33, lol) told me about this, but I figured he was full of shit like my parents and didn't think about it again until 1999 or so. LOL @ me

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