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:	post by mike at zero at 2007-07-25 16:33:48

I know humiliation and modesty, i don't come one here saying how many people we play in front of or try to make what we love doing a competition. we have had our good shows and our bad shows, and always think we can do better and strive for it. we have shared the stage with many great young, old, all around talented bands, be them local or national. Call me a winer, a child, or whatever you will, but know one thing, I will always support our local seen, and want what local bands deserve. I understand that there is a system, like in most aspects of life that you have to work with, fair or unfair. And i said nothing about Oiv, not my thing, but made no insult. I remember the great days of the early 90's, when shows were booked by local band guys, and everyone shared a bit of the cash. we do this still at places like Milly's tavern in manch, a great venue, where you have control over the shows, the more you promote, the more you make, no middle man, and everyone gets a peice of the door. I can tell that you are friends or accaintences of Oiv by your anger and insults, and if you want to pay to play, that's your thing, I'm only exspressing my beliefs and anger on the issue, and ask for a sense of community that seems to be lacking these days.

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