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:	post by MarkFuckingRichards at 2006-12-13 00:57:26

i thought that there is just one drummer, but some of the drums are just recorded by different people or something? oh well, i'll check tomorrow since it's too cold out to walk to my car just to look at the liner notes.

when these guys first surfaced, i knew they had potential and obviously are amazing musicians. a lot of people gave them flack for jumping on the tech death/metalcore bandwagon (necrophagist, between the buried and me, etc.), and their song writing skills were a bit sub-par.

something must have clicked because there is probably only a bout 4% hardcore or any -core on the entire album. a lot more jazz influence, more dynamics to the song structure without being choppy, and the flow of the album is amazing. the production is definitely retarded-good. i enjoy the clean singing, even though i had my doubts at first. it's in key, isn't typical, doesn't sound whiny or "emo," and is layered well. i got a kick out of the computer vocals and some of the keyboards; at first i didn't like them at all, but after listening to this album for practically 6 days straight, i feel it's one of the tightest releases from a band of this style.

i actually think they may be even younger than 20-21, or at least a few of them.

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