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:	post by blackmetallady at 2006-12-10 00:35:28

No, not so. I play violin for fun and for love of the instroment. Therefore, I guess you can say I'm hobby rocker too. However, I'm not in a band promsing a promoter to sell x amount of tickets and then showing up for load-in time late, not selling any tickets, ect.

The bands that really care about their band and career/hobby will show up on time and actually ask their fans and friends to go to the show for support. If, however, they don't have any fans yet, then they should sell tickets to family members and personal friends (just to get their foot in the door), and then, by the exsposure, they will gain fans from other bands on the bill that do have a fan base.

I remember when my brother-in-law first started a band without fans. I could have been on the guest list, but I bought a ticket to support his band (as well as the rest of my family). This, in turn, got him respect from the promoter, in which gave him more shows... then after the first few shows, he started to gain his own fans and was able to sell tickets without a problem. See what i mean? However, when I give newer bands a first chance at a show, some bands don't even bother to try to sell tickets to their friends and family to get them started. That's when bands waste my time, and therefore, I deem them, "hobby rockers."

Please don't misunderstand me. I should have been more clear before. It's ok to do it for fun, just don't ask to be on a bill if you can't come through, because there are other plenty of bands out there that will try harder. I've been burned a few times, but now I know who are the real deals are rather than, "hobby rockers." Do you know what I mean now?

I've had a band show up to play on a national show and only sold 2 tickets between 5 guys. That was pathetic. I should have given another band a chance that was more serious, because I had many inquires. But, it's trial and error. I can see why some promoters have the policy "play to play", because it covers the promoters ass. But, I don't like to do that and I continue to give a new band a chance every now and then. Sometimes, they disapoint me and are not asked back, but I work hard for the ones who work hard for me. That was a mouth full! I don't mean any disrepesct.... it's just that there is a lot of money on the line producing a national show for local band that just doesn't give a fuck when there are bands out there that would love to play a national.

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