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: post by DrinkHardThrashHard at 2006-07-10 09:17:06
XtoughX said:

6. A revolution can fail miserably, but still be considered a revolution (i.e. the French Revolution. What started out as a revolution against the tyranny of the king turned into tyranny itself. It was indeed successful at first then the revolutionaries began committing the same acts which they initially were fighting against).

7. You do not know what the word revolution means or what it entails.
A revolution is a drastic change that usually occurs relatively quickly. This may be a change in the social or political institutions over a relatively short period of time, or a major change in its culture or economy. Some revolutions are led by the majority of the populace of a nation, others by a small band of revolutionaries. Compare rebellion.


Bringing this back to a straightedge discussion...

In what way is 'straightedge' a revolution? There have been people who abstained from drugs and alcohol for thousands of years. The difference between themselves and the 'straightedge' scene is that they don't need to put a label on their personal decisions and try to intimidate others. They are comfortable as individuals with their health choices.

Also, how could such a revolution succeed when the rate of inevitable edge breaking is close to 100%? How many people are actually going to remain straightedge for life in our country? 50? Maybe 100? Walk into a single bar on a Friday night and there could be 3-5x that many people. There is no revolution. Just idealist shit-talking.

To strive for acceptance into a sub-cultural clique is not rebellion. It is conformity.

Not everyone who has a drink is an alcoholic, and not everyone who takes a toke is a pothead. The fact that moderates exist (and they outnumber addicts by a vast margin) disproves the necessity for a straightedge philosophy.
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