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New site? Maybe some day. Username: SPAM Filter: re-type this (values are 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,A,B,C,D,E, or F) Message: UBB enabled. HTML disabled Spam Filtering enabledIcons: (click image to insert) Show All - pop Select Color orange orange-red crimson red firebrick dark red green limegreen teal silver sea-green deeppink tomato coral purple indigo burlywood sandy brown sienna chocolate FONTXXSmallXSmallSmallMediumLargeXLXXL :DG: A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z Char† ‡ ‰ ♠ ♣ ♥ ♦ ‾ ← ↑ → ↓ ™ – —   ¡ ¢ £ ¤ ¥ ¦ § ¨ © ª « ¬ ­ ® ¯ ° ± ² ³ ´ µ ¶ · ¸ ¹ º » ¼ ½ ¾ ¿ À Á Â Ã Ä Å Æ Ç È É Ê Ë Ì Í Î Ï Ð Ñ Ò Ó Ô Õ Ö × Ø Ù Ú Û Ü Ý Þ ß à á â ã ä å æ ç è é ê ë ì í î ï ð ñ ò ó ô õ ö ÷ ø ù ú û ü ý þ ÿ b i u  add: url  image  video(?) : post by ArrowHead at 2004-12-08 13:30:53 The shows you talk about "way back before things were cleaned up" in fact sound like you're talking about things right AFTER things changed. That is what shows were like maybe ten years ago, after the crews had started cleaning up boston. Before the arrival of the FSU in the late 80's the boston music scene had been overrun by nazi punk rockers who made shows as uncomfortable as possible. People being slashed with broken bottles, random beatdowns outside of clubs, heavy police prescences at almost every show, and pits were almost non-existent at shows - instead replaced by gangs (for lack of a better word) of shitheads who would stand or dance in front of the stage and not really allow anyone to get anywhere close. Everything you're talking about, from people being respectful and picking each other up off the floor, to the diversity of bands is directly resultant from the FSU and Hardcore scenes taking over the boston scene. Before that, hardcore didn't really exist in boston, there was just a HUGE punk rock scene. The skinheads, rude boys, and FSU cleaned up boston whether you realize it or care to admit it. Also, I'm not saying it was blissful. There were problems even then. I remember a group of crew kids beating a cop with hammer handles at a show I luckily wasn't at one weekend. The violence and gang mentality was always there, but if you showed respect and were smart enough not to fuck with people you could almost be guaranteed not to get into trouble. A bit like the mafia I guess, you know who they were, and you showed them respect and let them do what they want and they'd leave you alone.

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