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returntothepit >> discuss >> Any "true crime" sleuths here? by susurrate on Apr 30,2016 2:59am
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toggletoggle post by susurrate at Apr 30,2016 2:59am edited Apr 30,2016 2:59am
Interesting case. Bothersome, even. In our neck of the woods, so due to the local nature, figure I'd post it here to see what people think.

http://mauramurray.blogspot.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/mauramurray/



Part 1/5 - I'll let you dicks find the other 4 parts



toggletoggle post by MattGemini at Apr 30,2016 8:06am
I commit true crime everyday



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Apr 30,2016 10:16am
We need more people that are into this stuff. Anything helps. People are still looking for Tammy Belanger as well. She disappeared from Exeter back in 1984 and her body has still not been found.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 30,2016 10:34am
Something recently had me reading about this.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 30,2016 10:36am



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at Apr 30,2016 11:12am
People go missing for lots of different reasons, sometimes to just start a new life, possible slavery. What is interesting is college age males disappear without a trace, police and volunteers will search the area for days, and when the body turns up it is usually near a body of water that had been searched already. In some cases they have been missing for days/weeks but when an autopsy is done it shows they are recently deceased. This happens on a global scale with similar circumstances.



toggletoggle post by Dead guy at Apr 30,2016 11:40am
Weird case but she probably died of exposure. Hunter will find her bones. Happened here recently http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/201...skull_found_in_upton_identifie.html



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 30,2016 6:38pm
Yeah, there is a lot of wilderness and animals are hungry



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at Apr 30,2016 10:24pm



toggletoggle post by Tree & Rope at Apr 30,2016 10:34pm
It's either blacks or Dwyer.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Apr 30,2016 11:26pm
MotleyGrue said[orig][quote]

bennyhillifier


will watch tomorrow



toggletoggle post by Dead guy at May 1,2016 10:21pm



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at May 4,2016 5:00pm
This is interesting.


bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by susurrate at May 4,2016 5:48pm edited May 4,2016 5:50pm
MotleyGrue said[orig][quote]
This is interesting.


bennyhillifier


that's pretty bizarre and chilling. some of the sounds at the beginning of the actual voicemail-the gurgly ones reminded me of when i saw a particular video 10 years or so ago of these chechen rebels slicing the throat of an enemy. the gurgling in the voicemail reminded me of the trying to breath while choking on blood signature sound. but apparently he was found in a body of water so that doesn't seem probable as they claim it was most likely death by drowning. i wonder if those sounds can be mimicked by placing a cell phone inches above the water while a subject is screaming underwater trying to be let go/breath. no clue. i'm going to look more into this case later.

edit: since he was a pretty well known auditor in his area, i don't think it's much of a mystery that he discovered some ill-kept books and some people didn't want that information to get out.



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at May 4,2016 6:09pm
I just stumbled upon this just a few hours ago, haven't found the full voicemail to listen to it in it's entirety. He disappeared on September 7th, found on November 2nd, he is missing for 2 months, found with high levels of GHB which is common with missing bodies that turn up in floaters. I agree it could be anything, but has the stereotypical details of huge number of missing person cases whose bodies are eventually recovered. Person who leaves a party or night out, asks to get dropped off or walks home alone making them a victim to be captured. At a certain point you have to ask yourself is this all just a coincidence, or something weird/sinister happening?



toggletoggle post by susurrate at May 4,2016 6:18pm
ohhh right the GHB. i heard that in the clip you posted. i thought that stuff went out of style in the late 90s.
i'd prefer it to be something sinister.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at May 4,2016 7:11pm
thanks for posting the david paulides thing because i had no clue as to who he was, but now i am very interested in getting a copy of his book(s). excellent reads for the shitter i am sure.

http://www.canammissing.com/missing_411.html



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at May 4,2016 11:17pm
Oh that's right, thanks for posting, I heard you ran down your mothers leg, guess I was wrong, your dad should have pulled out, the dumb bastard.



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at May 4,2016 11:20pm
Not being a dick though, there is a lot of fucked up shit that goes on there in real life, just saying.



toggletoggle post by susurrate nli at May 4,2016 11:23pm
not sure if you misinterpreted, i actually do 95% of my reading on the shitter. did not mean anything negative by it.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at May 5,2016 10:42am
this ones always bugged me. the elevator footage is creepy as shit. ending up in a rooftop water tank whether self inflicted or not is even creepier. and also lol @ the people who were staying at the hotel who were drinking and bathing in female corpse water.




http://www.vice.com/read/elisa-lam-drowned...session-with-her-death-lives-on-511

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Elisa_Lam



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at May 5,2016 4:14pm
Such a fucked story about her, too many weird things, first the Cecil Hotel had two different serial killers living there at different points in time, people have been murdered and have committed suicide there. There was something locked up on the roof to which she did not have the key, it took four fireman to open the water lid as it is too heavy, how did she open it? There is a semi non existent company called The Light Agency (?) based in the Cecil hotel which is very interesting, and should be looked into further.

LAM-ELISA Is a Tuberculosis Diagnosis test that was developed in British Columbia, the same place she was currently going to school, what are the odds of the name similarity and location?

There was a Tuberculosis outbreak among homeless people in LA around this time, the CDC sent scientists/dr.'s to use the LAM-ELISA test on the infected, again what are the odds?

If she is South Korean it would make things even more suspect.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at May 5,2016 4:53pm
one of the most bizarre ones out there, guaranteed.

not to mention that (largely terrible) movie Dark Water released in 2005. One of the main characters was named Ceci. and it involved a dead girl in a rooftop water tank that haunted the place.

the degrees of separation in all these things is fucked. sure we can make parallels anywhere with anything, but these are too odd to ignore.



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at May 5,2016 6:45pm
Dark Waters is a terrible movie, just adds more to the mystery of her death.

I read about this somewhere a few months back, this happened in NH.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/11/09/thirty-years-later-murders-woman-girls-continues-baffle/I7n4d1NKACqfFhnIwAnVVP/story.html



toggletoggle post by susurrate at May 5,2016 7:08pm edited May 5,2016 7:08pm
always trips me out how dark water came out yeeeaaaars before her demise.

man that NH story is really fucked up. a little distant to be the 'ct river valley killer' or whatever he/she is called, but i'm going to look into that one a bit more.

love how the kids were just rolling the barrel around like a game of super nes donkey kong country and then bam



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at May 6,2016 7:32pm
And old favorite of mine Nico Claux, and in the very late 90's I did consider sending him a picture to commission him to paint a portrait of me.

http://www.lesvampires.org/mirrorsportal/nicoclaux.html

http://www.hyaenagallery.com/nicoclaux.html



toggletoggle post by Losing faith in humanity chapter 56 at May 6,2016 9:11pm



toggletoggle post by susurrate at May 6,2016 9:44pm


^ possible, not official, photo of Tara Calico.




Regina Kay Walters ^


being kvlt and all that bullshit is one thing, but being a true psychopath piece of shit is another.

not to derail the commentary, but seeing Macabre was the best show I've been to so....



bennyhillifier




bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at May 7,2016 12:56am
I have seen several last pictures of victims, but am suspect of them. Never a fan of Macabre fuck them, don't mean to be a feelings hurter about it.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at May 7,2016 2:59pm
if peoples feelings get hurt about someone not liking a band that they do, then that's pretty weak. no butthurt here.



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at May 7,2016 3:22pm
I have known about Macabre for a long fucking time, knew what they were about, tried to like them, just didn't work for me, which is cool to each his own.

Don't want to take away from the thread about murder, unsolved crimes, always seems to fascinate me, just like the weird, strange, unexplained, paranormal, ufo, urban legend bullshit, I cant get enough.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at May 7,2016 3:57pm
agreed. we'll keep the thread going. people disappear every day.



toggletoggle post by skeletonized at May 8,2016 12:20am
worth reading if you guys like the above posts: http://www.amazon.com/Faithful-Executioner...ent-Sixteenth-Century/dp/1250043611

insane descriptions of what kind of crimes were committed back in ye olden days. ex - bandits would kill an entire family/burn their house, but not before cutting off the hands of babies which were good luck back then. lots of raping, random murders for shitty/bizarre reasons, arson, all of which were often never solved. had to have some pretty epic public exeuctions to make people feel safe.



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at May 8,2016 11:06am
Sounds like a good read.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at May 8,2016 2:31pm

bennyhillifier

shit quality, should be on netflix however.

my opinion on this is drug deal gone wrong. no one carries 32,000 dollars in a box underneath a vehicle seat even if you're going to "look for land to purchase" in some random mountain area. plus, the situation with the aryan dude is straight up 'well- i just got chased away with a gun, so i'll have my boys take care of them.'

continuing the last known photo's deal, this one is bone chilling to me. smile looks totally faked (when compared to previous photos os the subject smiling)- looks like she's in fear (in my opinion) and the fact that she's looking away from the camera leads me to believe that someone *could have* taken that photo while the subjects parents were off to the side being incapacitated by someone or many someones. bold thought, but it could happen. what do i know.





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toggletoggle post by susurrate at May 8,2016 3:20pm


sad one. more parents that should have been chemically sterilized prior to conceiving a child.



toggletoggle post by ipfreely at May 15,2016 2:10pm
Not sure if this is related to this thread but this is brutal and recent:

http://abc7.com/news/exclusive-father-spea...-who-was-found-decapitated/1338669/



toggletoggle post by susurrate at May 15,2016 3:21pm
decapitation is not easy, even with a surgical blade when done by hand according to things i've read. someone had to really want that to make it happen. that is very weird. i'll try and keep tabs on the case here and there cause damn that's odd.



toggletoggle post by ipfreely at May 24,2016 7:26pm edited May 24,2016 7:26pm



toggletoggle post by susurrate at May 24,2016 8:13pm


whoa. 9/10 times this proves to be in-real-life trolling, but it would be great if it wasn't.




toggletoggle post by rotted at May 25,2016 1:48pm



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at May 25,2016 11:30pm
ipfreely said[orig][quote]
Not sure if this is related to this thread but this is brutal and recent:

http://abc7.com/news/exclusive-father-spea...-who-was-found-decapitated/1338669/


Cult killing IMO, Texas, Drug Cartels, Santa Muerte, Satanists, Sociopaths. Could be wrong but,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,



toggletoggle post by This just in at May 27,2016 3:51pm



toggletoggle post by susurrate at May 27,2016 4:49pm
unbelievable. that's sad. what's up with dudes by the name of castro fucking up women's lives? (ariel castro comes to mind)



toggletoggle post by NH detective at May 27,2016 8:06pm
Nathaniel Kibby pleads guilty in NH kidnapping case:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/27/us/kibby-guilty-plea-new-hampshire/index.html



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at May 28,2016 1:08am
Suck on this, dead alien human hybrid (supposedly) mystery.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/d...tified-part-alien-article-1.2301594



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Jun 1,2016 2:46pm
what's up with people in the south? i buy something from someone and they say it's a time capsule, i'm opening that shit the second they leave my house even if they said not to. this is one of the weirdest stories as of late.

http://wncn.com/2016/05/31/dead-body-was-f...in-freezer-in-goldsboro-woman-says/



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at Jun 1,2016 11:06pm
She sold me her frozen mother for $30, sounds like a steal for aged meat, what is she bitching about???



toggletoggle post by ipfreely at Jun 9,2016 10:19am edited Jun 9,2016 10:20am



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at Jul 10,2016 4:23pm
bumped, any new stories?



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Jul 10,2016 5:08pm
nothing particularly new, but the maura murray case is progressing as usual. new information every day. i'd suggest you check out the book that james renner recently released about it and himself, entitled "true crime addict". it's an easy read and compelling as hell. besides my focus on that, i've been increasingly interested in the story of Bryce Laspisa, Robert Hoagland (watch the robert hoagland episode of Disappeared, seriously.) and the old tale of the blues guitarist who disappeared without a trace, Mr. John Spira.



toggletoggle post by 3é at Jul 10,2016 5:57pm
My Friend Rockefeller documentary on netflix is worth a look. What a fucking weird dude.



toggletoggle post by parachutist at Jul 13,2016 1:32pm



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Jul 23,2016 3:02pm
MotleyGrue said[orig][quote]

bennyhillifier


this is pretty nuts. forgot to respond after listening. been checking out david and the missing 411 stuff since. i understand his theories on sasquatch are pretty out there, but i saw something once with another witness by my side that can corroborate, and i can truly say that there's some bizarre stuff going on in the outer reaches of the woods regardless of trolls on the internet or detractors in real life.



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at Jul 23,2016 3:37pm
As far as the people that go missing, I like that he just presents the facts, and doesn't give you his opinion. Haven't listened too much about his bigfoot stories though, so what did you and the other witness see?



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Jul 23,2016 3:52pm
oh man. so i was probably 20. drove my girlfriend home to her house which was located alongside a patch of woods that was bridged between a local mountain range and a very rural area. behind her house was a patch of woods that led to one of those big fields with radio antennas and beyond that, a few suburban houses, leading to more woods that goes on for a long while. we pull into her dirt driveway in my truck and are talking for a minute, saying our goodbyes and what-have-you, all the while my headlights are pointed straight toward the woods (and closer to us- the end of her driveway where there are trash receptacles). to our left was a small patch of woods with a mountain stream that flows downward toward the back of the property, and a house beyond that stream to the left on a different plot. we are just talking and kinda looking straight ahead cause i felt like going home and wanted to end the night and in the blink of an eye, something tall (that was more than likely taller than my '98 dodge ram sport that had a 3" lift on it) passed from right to left, from where the trash cans were located, toward the stream. and i mean fast. like, 2 seconds from when we saw it to where it was out of view. (remember, it's pitch black out- i'd estimate 11pm). i'd think it took maybe 2 steps in our view before it entered and exited our view from the headlights. but the kicker is- we both saw an upright bi-pedal creature hauling ASS. i'd estimate 7 to 8 feet tall considering where the roof of my truck was, but it was awhile ago. all i can tell was it looked far too natural and mangey to be a suit, and it's not a spot where people hunt whatsoever.

funniest part was i basically told her to get in the house, she jumped out of the truck, dropped her samsung phone on the way out trying to run, and dropped the phone beneath the truck. hate to sound like a dick (but i was 20) and i offered no help whatsoever. i was not moving from my seat. she grabbed the phone and got inside safely. the door was probably 40 feet away.

to this day, with all honesty, i've never been so scared. i wasn't moving a muscle. i threw it in reverse and got out of dodge as fast as i could as soon as i saw she made it inside. i also have a UFO story, but that's for another time.

that chick ended up being a mental case as we progressed in our relationship and i dumped her after 3 years. best choice i ever made so far in life. but even though she sucks, she's still my corroborating witness. i reported it to a cryptozoology group about 6 months later.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Jul 23,2016 3:54pm edited Jul 23,2016 3:54pm
i forgot to mention. whatever this 'thing' was, was no further than 20 feet from us MAX. i'd like to think it was closer, but i don't want to embellish anything because i'm serious about this. everyone close to me has heard this story. is what it is.

edit: before anyone calls bear or moose...no way. i've done wildlife tracking and game cameras for years. not a chance. i know what an upright bear looks like.



toggletoggle post by The Yellow King at Jul 23,2016 5:57pm
susurrate said[orig][quote]
oh man. so i was probably 20. drove my girlfriend home to her house which was located alongside a patch of woods that was bridged between a local mountain range and a very rural area. behind her house was a patch of woods that led to one of those big fields with radio antennas and beyond that, a few suburban houses, leading to more woods that goes on for a long while. we pull into her dirt driveway in my truck and are talking for a minute, saying our goodbyes and what-have-you, all the while my headlights are pointed straight toward the woods (and closer to us- the end of her driveway where there are trash receptacles). to our left was a small patch of woods with a mountain stream that flows downward toward the back of the property, and a house beyond that stream to the left on a different plot. we are just talking and kinda looking straight ahead cause i felt like going home and wanted to end the night and in the blink of an eye, something tall (that was more than likely taller than my '98 dodge ram sport that had a 3" lift on it) passed from right to left, from where the trash cans were located, toward the stream. and i mean fast. like, 2 seconds from when we saw it to where it was out of view. (remember, it's pitch black out- i'd estimate 11pm). i'd think it took maybe 2 steps in our view before it entered and exited our view from the headlights. but the kicker is- we both saw an upright bi-pedal creature hauling ASS. i'd estimate 7 to 8 feet tall considering where the roof of my truck was, but it was awhile ago. all i can tell was it looked far too natural and mangey to be a suit, and it's not a spot where people hunt whatsoever.

funniest part was i basically told her to get in the house, she jumped out of the truck, dropped her samsung phone on the way out trying to run, and dropped the phone beneath the truck. hate to sound like a dick (but i was 20) and i offered no help whatsoever. i was not moving from my seat. she grabbed the phone and got inside safely. the door was probably 40 feet away.

to this day, with all honesty, i've never been so scared. i wasn't moving a muscle. i threw it in reverse and got out of dodge as fast as i could as soon as i saw she made it inside. i also have a UFO story, but that's for another time.

that chick ended up being a mental case as we progressed in our relationship and i dumped her after 3 years. best choice i ever made so far in life. but even though she sucks, she's still my corroborating witness. i reported it to a cryptozoology group about 6 months later.


^^^^^^^^ susurrate is aril^^^^^^^^^



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Jul 23,2016 5:59pm
The%20Yellow%20King said[orig][quote]
susurrate said[orig][quote]
oh man. so i was probably 20. drove my girlfriend home to her house which was located alongside a patch of woods that was bridged between a local mountain range and a very rural area. behind her house was a patch of woods that led to one of those big fields with radio antennas and beyond that, a few suburban houses, leading to more woods that goes on for a long while. we pull into her dirt driveway in my truck and are talking for a minute, saying our goodbyes and what-have-you, all the while my headlights are pointed straight toward the woods (and closer to us- the end of her driveway where there are trash receptacles). to our left was a small patch of woods with a mountain stream that flows downward toward the back of the property, and a house beyond that stream to the left on a different plot. we are just talking and kinda looking straight ahead cause i felt like going home and wanted to end the night and in the blink of an eye, something tall (that was more than likely taller than my '98 dodge ram sport that had a 3" lift on it) passed from right to left, from where the trash cans were located, toward the stream. and i mean fast. like, 2 seconds from when we saw it to where it was out of view. (remember, it's pitch black out- i'd estimate 11pm). i'd think it took maybe 2 steps in our view before it entered and exited our view from the headlights. but the kicker is- we both saw an upright bi-pedal creature hauling ASS. i'd estimate 7 to 8 feet tall considering where the roof of my truck was, but it was awhile ago. all i can tell was it looked far too natural and mangey to be a suit, and it's not a spot where people hunt whatsoever.

funniest part was i basically told her to get in the house, she jumped out of the truck, dropped her samsung phone on the way out trying to run, and dropped the phone beneath the truck. hate to sound like a dick (but i was 20) and i offered no help whatsoever. i was not moving from my seat. she grabbed the phone and got inside safely. the door was probably 40 feet away.

to this day, with all honesty, i've never been so scared. i wasn't moving a muscle. i threw it in reverse and got out of dodge as fast as i could as soon as i saw she made it inside. i also have a UFO story, but that's for another time.

that chick ended up being a mental case as we progressed in our relationship and i dumped her after 3 years. best choice i ever made so far in life. but even though she sucks, she's still my corroborating witness. i reported it to a cryptozoology group about 6 months later.


^^^^^^^^ susurrate is aril^^^^^^^^^



you'd think, but you're wrong. every time one of you think that, it makes me chuckle a bit. i like aril. but i am not aril. blank



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Jul 23,2016 6:39pm
just make sure you get your smores and popcorn out for my UFO story cause it still stresses me out to this day



toggletoggle post by Fjebdjdvdisgs at Jul 24,2016 1:56pm
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toggletoggle post by ipfreely at Jul 24,2016 6:28pm
Bizarre....A mass grave of 11 "escorts", one of them a missing daughter, a mother dead and another daughter charged with murder.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/24/mom-g...nd-dead-other-daughter-charged.html



toggletoggle post by wow ok at Jul 25,2016 8:58am
ipfreely said[orig][quote]
Bizarre....A mass grave of 11 "escorts", one of them a missing daughter, a mother dead and another daughter charged with murder.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/24/mom-g...nd-dead-other-daughter-charged.html


high quality genes in that family.



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at Aug 10,2016 11:14pm
Don't know how this went under the radar for me, but just listened/read up about it tonight, and it's kinda fucked, need to spend more time reading up about this. Johnny Gosch the first missing kid to go on milk cartons, and a hellova crazy story. Coast To Coast just covered this a few days ago.

https://owlcation.com/social-sciences/The-Tragedy-Of-Johnny-Gosch



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Aug 11,2016 10:11am
MotleyGrue said[orig][quote]
Don't know how this went under the radar for me, but just listened/read up about it tonight, and it's kinda fucked, need to spend more time reading up about this. Johnny Gosch the first missing kid to go on milk cartons, and a hellova crazy story. Coast To Coast just covered this a few days ago.

https://owlcation.com/social-sciences/The-Tragedy-Of-Johnny-Gosch


Dude. nothing is crazier than that story. People believe he was abducted and enslaved into sexual slavery by high ranking government officials operating a pedophile ring. Some even think he's still alive and is Jeff Gannon of all people. Huge rabbit-hole potential when looking into this particular case. Creepy as shit no matter which route it takes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/3akjak/do_you_believe_that_jeff_gannon_is_johnny_gosch/



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Aug 11,2016 10:13am
MotleyGrue said[orig][quote]
Don't know how this went under the radar for me, but just listened/read up about it tonight, and it's kinda fucked, need to spend more time reading up about this. Johnny Gosch the first missing kid to go on milk cartons, and a hellova crazy story. Coast To Coast just covered this a few days ago.

https://owlcation.com/social-sciences/The-Tragedy-Of-Johnny-Gosch


Dude. nothing is crazier than that story. People believe he was abducted and enslaved into sexual slavery by high ranking government officials operating a pedophile ring. Some even think he's still alive and is Jeff Gannon of all people. Huge rabbit-hole potential when looking into this particular case. Creepy as shit no matter which route it takes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/3akjak/do_you_believe_that_jeff_gannon_is_johnny_gosch/



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at Aug 11,2016 5:34pm
That whole story is fucked



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Aug 11,2016 7:08pm
MotleyGrue said[orig][quote]
That whole story is fucked


there's nothing remotely normal about it. makes you wonder what kind of people and factions actually exist outside of the improbable terrors that we create in our imaginations to subconsciously influence a dream.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Aug 16,2016 4:19pm
Sir of Grue, have you followed the Vanessa Marcotte story out in Princeton, MA? Grisly stuff man. Attacked, possibly sexually assaulted, murdered, and set aflame. Hope they find the dirtbag. Any time a murderer sets someone on fire in a possible feeble attempt to remove DNA, you know they've been coldly calculating this type of thing for awhile. Fucked up.



toggletoggle post by posbleak   at Aug 16,2016 5:43pm
Dunno about you guys but I can't wait for Dr Phil to interview Jon Benet's brother in September



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Aug 16,2016 5:48pm
i'm over that whole deal. family is guilty as sin. i'll watch it but i'm sure it will be a puff piece w/ about 5% tension for the cameras. i'd utter the expected phrase, but i'll leave it up to aril.



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at Aug 16,2016 7:43pm
What made it interesting for me is one week before a female jogger was killed in the same fashion, too early to rule out a serial killer though. Why only burn the head, hands and feet?



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Aug 16,2016 7:52pm
attempt to remove dentals, fingerprints, and footprints? it makes no sense, but people watch too much tv these days so who knows what a psychopath will think is a good way to conceal a crime,

i noticed its a possible inter-state crime. officials have said that though they don't conclude by any means its connected to the NY thing, they said they haven't ruled it out. and the fact that the subject here lived in NYC and was just visiting MA, it makes it all the creepier.



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at Aug 16,2016 11:16pm
That's why the serial killer theory makes sense, but still too soon, this world is a fucking ashtray, people put out like fucking cigarettes with no remorse, next.



toggletoggle post by pink lemonade at Aug 17,2016 9:00am
that Princeton murder is very odd. i generally think of that area as exceptionally boring but every now and then something completely bizarre will happen.



toggletoggle post by pink lemonade at Aug 17,2016 9:10am



toggletoggle post by posbleak   at Aug 17,2016 11:46am
susurrate said[orig][quote]
i'm over that whole deal. family is guilty as sin. i'll watch it but i'm sure it will be a puff piece w/ about 5% tension for the cameras.


Yeah I wish it was p much anybody else interviewing but it's the last unsolved crime from my childhood so I'll take anything I can get

Anybody into true crime podcasts, I've been catching up on Sword & Scale and My Favorite Murder, just finished Someone Knows Something and starting Criminal. They're all really solid, MFM is more comedy but they pick up some obscure cases.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Aug 17,2016 2:23pm
posbleak said[orig][quote]
susurrate said[orig][quote]
i'm over that whole deal. family is guilty as sin. i'll watch it but i'm sure it will be a puff piece w/ about 5% tension for the cameras.


Yeah I wish it was p much anybody else interviewing but it's the last unsolved crime from my childhood so I'll take anything I can get

Anybody into true crime podcasts, I've been catching up on Sword & Scale and My Favorite Murder, just finished Someone Knows Something and starting Criminal. They're all really solid, MFM is more comedy but they pick up some obscure cases.


i'll check into some of those for sure. i finished Serial season 1 awhile ago and have also been listening to True Crime Garage and the Vanished Podcast. tried getting into bob ruffs truth & justice podcast but ehhh



toggletoggle post by Clue U at Aug 17,2016 3:17pm
Matt Gittings did it with the badly cut heroin in the practice room.




toggletoggle post by susurrate at Aug 26,2016 6:18pm
not a crime by any means,

but still worthy of a post.

Gerry Largay attempted the Appalachian Trail, lost her way relieving herself off trail, and according to authorities, lived for 26 days after losing her way. she ran out of food on day 4 (eating meals of a couple almonds and a few fritos) all while writing in a journal to her loved ones and to the person who found her remains.

she was just about 2 miles from a well-known trail that turns into a public road which would have given her the means to exit the woods safely. haunting.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2016/08/24/when-you-find-body-the-last-days-hiker-gerry-largay/DcaZf6RcojOTN2LNsOXm0K/story.html



https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/05/25/hiker-who-died-after-disappearing-from-appalachian-trail-survived-for-weeks/KAcHuKSdYVHNTNu0qQobvK/story.html


http://northeastexplorer.com/wordpress/?p=3805



toggletoggle post by Barrel roll at Aug 26,2016 9:13pm
You can view the discovery of her body on an animal planet show about Maine game wardens. It was eerie.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Aug 26,2016 9:50pm edited Aug 26,2016 9:50pm
Barrel%20roll said[orig][quote]
You can view the discovery of her body on an animal planet show about Maine game wardens. It was eerie.


yeah, i saw it one day after knowing all about her story. thought it was unrelated then they ID'd her and i was like damn. just tried to find the clip on dailymotion/youtube without success, but here's an additional newslink-



http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/166...missing-hiker-off-appalachian-trail

that episode was a bummer.


*edited to mention the show is called North Woods Law.



toggletoggle post by True crime fan at Aug 28,2016 3:19pm
Anyone following the film maker David Crowley's murder suicide?

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/det...er-suicide-emerge-article-1.2498838



toggletoggle post by necrotized goat meat at Aug 29,2016 9:19am
@susurrate did you read these articles? this guy suspects a few things - incompetence on the part of the wardens, navy SERE, and largay deciding to stop taking her meds, etc:

http://thebollard.com/2015/12/03/m-i-a-on-the-a-t-survival/
http://thebollard.com/2016/01/07/m-i-a-on-the-a-t-evasion/
http://thebollard.com/2016/03/03/m-i-a-on-the-a-t-inanition/
http://thebollard.com/2016/07/04/m-i-a-on-the-a-t-no-escape/



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Aug 29,2016 10:22am
necrotized%20goat%20meat said[orig][quote]
@susurrate did you read these articles? this guy suspects a few things - incompetence on the part of the wardens, navy SERE, and largay deciding to stop taking her meds, etc:

http://thebollard.com/2015/12/03/m-i-a-on-the-a-t-survival/
http://thebollard.com/2016/01/07/m-i-a-on-the-a-t-evasion/
http://thebollard.com/2016/03/03/m-i-a-on-the-a-t-inanition/
http://thebollard.com/2016/07/04/m-i-a-on-the-a-t-no-escape/


have not, but i will after work. thanks!



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at Aug 30,2016 11:09pm
susurrate said[orig][quote]
necrotized%20goat%20meat said[orig][quote]
@susurrate did you read these articles? this guy suspects a few things - incompetence on the part of the wardens, navy SERE, and largay deciding to stop taking her meds, etc:

http://thebollard.com/2015/12/03/m-i-a-on-the-a-t-survival/
http://thebollard.com/2016/01/07/m-i-a-on-the-a-t-evasion/
http://thebollard.com/2016/03/03/m-i-a-on-the-a-t-inanition/
http://thebollard.com/2016/07/04/m-i-a-on-the-a-t-no-escape/


have not, but i will after work. thanks!


wut? I have some catching up to do



toggletoggle post by True crime fan at Sep 3,2016 6:42pm



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Sep 8,2016 8:40am
here's a rather interesting story. 18 year old kid went missing in 2008 in colorado. last year they found his body in the CHIMNEY of an abandoned cabin less than a mile from his home. his knees were above his head and his legs became detached from his torso. occam's razor says the kid was just bored and wanted to explore the abandoned cabin. but isn't it really just easier to smash/jimmy a window or door in the middle of nowhere?

this must have been a grueling, long death all alone. in the woods and inside a chimney where no one can hear you. fuck.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-32...ar-old-missing-7-years-chimney.html


i also recently watched a program about this kid Tyler Hadley from (you guessed it), Florida. He was 17 I believe and wanted to host a party so he figured the viable thing to do would be to murder his parents. he took three hits of ecstacy, grabbed a claw hammer, stood behind his mother for 5 minutes while she was using the computer waiting to build up the confidence to do it, and he did her first, then his father. he then loaded their bodies into a bedroom, tossed trash and household shit all over their bodies, and threw a rager for like 60 people while their bodies were in the house going through the first stages of death. even posed for a sweet selfie holding up a solo cup. he told his best buddy about it during the party and even showed him the crime scene. his buddy wound up staying and partying for awhile after finding out which is when the selfie was taken. eesh.



apparently he's a sort-of-celebrity in jail. people call him "hambo" and ask for his autograph with which he includes the caption "Hammer Time". unreal lol

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/tyler-hadleys-killer-party-20131218



toggletoggle post by Detective Rttp at Sep 8,2016 11:04am



toggletoggle post by santa claus at Sep 8,2016 11:48am
susurrate said[orig][quote]
here's a rather interesting story. 18 year old kid went missing in 2008 in colorado. last year they found his body in the CHIMNEY of an abandoned cabin less than a mile from his home. his knees were above his head and his legs became detached from his torso. occam's razor says the kid was just bored and wanted to explore the abandoned cabin. but isn't it really just easier to smash/jimmy a window or door in the middle of nowhere?

this must have been a grueling, long death all alone. in the woods and inside a chimney where no one can hear you. fuck.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-32...ar-old-missing-7-years-chimney.html

WTF



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Sep 8,2016 2:16pm
santa%20claus said[orig][quote]
susurrate said[orig][quote]
here's a rather interesting story. 18 year old kid went missing in 2008 in colorado. last year they found his body in the CHIMNEY of an abandoned cabin less than a mile from his home. his knees were above his head and his legs became detached from his torso. occam's razor says the kid was just bored and wanted to explore the abandoned cabin. but isn't it really just easier to smash/jimmy a window or door in the middle of nowhere?

this must have been a grueling, long death all alone. in the woods and inside a chimney where no one can hear you. fuck.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-32...ar-old-missing-7-years-chimney.html

WTF



yeah- i keep picturing the corpse positioning in my head. if i was the demo worker that found him, i'd probably have nightmares for the rest of my life. not sure what it is about a body contorted within a chimney that bothers me so much, but it does.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Sep 8,2016 6:50pm edited Sep 8,2016 6:53pm
ATTN MotleyGrue- Johnny Gosch documentary now on netflix.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2704816/

watching tonight maybe


*edited to add reading material below

http://rense.com/general67/gannn.htm



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Sep 8,2016 9:27pm
wow i just read about a hell of a plot twist regarding the kid in the chimney. more to come on that. i don't believe the official story whatsoever.



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at Sep 8,2016 11:23pm
susurrate said[orig][quote]
ATTN MotleyGrue- Johnny Gosch documentary now on netflix.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2704816/

watching tonight maybe


*edited to add reading material below

http://rense.com/general67/gannn.htm


Interesting, will watch tonight or this weekend,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Sep 9,2016 12:33pm
Destroyer 666 has a song about the somerton man on their latest record. Neat.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamam_Shud_case


bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Sep 13,2016 9:39pm



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Sep 20,2016 4:06pm edited Sep 20,2016 4:14pm
been a big couple of weeks for true crime.

Jacob Wetterling's case was solved: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-ad...-missing-minnesota-boy-1989-n643506

Jessica Heeringa's case was solved: http://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/index.s...jessica_heeringa_died_at_hands.html


And extremely surprising...... anyone who was/is an Unsolved Mysteries kinda guy or gal will remember this one.... Lori Erica Ruff's identity has finally been solved. No name/circumstance stated yet but apparently a newspaper article is in the works. Never ever thought I'd see this one solved: https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/53nii2/lori_erica_ruff_namus_page_taken_down/

on the Maura Murray front, speculation still continues. little hints here and there get uncovered weekly. i think MM's disappearance will be solved in the next couple years for sure considering how much renewed interest there is.

shame no new info was released in the vanessa marcotte rape/murder. i really want to see that one solved. just a brutal, senseless fucking thing.


*edited to add 2 theories on JonBenet now that it's all of a sudden a thing again. i never paid attention to the case because truthfully, i find extremely affluent people abhorrent in nature in certain situations-especially these people who loved to flaunt and (basically) sexualize their child for fame and profit. i speculated without even reading up on the case and knowing the bare minimum that the ramseys hired a hispanic male (DNA found hispanic male DNA) and maybe 1 other person to sneak in the basement window, fake an abduction, and cash in on it. but something went wrong and she was killed. my new theory is basically that of what CBS was just talking about- Burke Ramsey accidentally or maliciously killed JonBenet during a late night argument and the parents covered it up surprisingly well.

link here-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-37...lking-911-call-thought-hung-up.html



toggletoggle post by susurrrate at Sep 20,2016 7:46pm



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Sep 20,2016 7:51pm
your search history, not mine.



toggletoggle post by posbleak   at Sep 21,2016 10:47am
Burke Ramsey contradicted the story that he's been giving police for 20 years on Dr. Phil, the most softball interview possible (Phil & the Ramsey family have the same lawyer), just casually saying that he took the flashlight and went downstairs after the parents went to bed. The CBS docu was super unprofessional but also brought up a lot of stuff I'd never heard before, like Burke going into Jonbenet's room the night she died and smearing shit on her presents and bed? WTF



toggletoggle post by New Order Lyrics Bot 2016 AD at Sep 24,2016 12:53am
When a new life turns towards you
And the night becomes a bay
We shall remain forever
Everyone who meets his way
Oh, our love is like the flowers
The rain and the sea and the hours
Oh, our love is like the flowers
The rain and the sea and the hours

When the rain falls to the sea
They'll be waiting for you and for me
And the sky reflects our image
Trying to sleep right through our lives

Oh, our love is like the earth
The sun and the trees and the birth
Oh, our love is like the earth
The sun and the trees and the birth

I am still here two days later
Same place, same time
And I'm stuck here two years too long
Same place, the wrong time

Oh, our love is like the flowers
The rain and the sea and the hours
Oh, our love is like the flowers
The sun and the sea and the hours

Their love died three years ago
Spoken words I cannot show



toggletoggle post by god lord at Sep 26,2016 3:42pm



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Oct 12,2016 5:29pm
The Tamam Shud (Somerton Man) is close to being solved. If you don't know it, check it out.

Christine Harron's case has been solved. If you want to see a truly unremorseful sociopathic deviant, check out the murderers comments.
http://cnews.canoe.com/CNEWS/Crime/2016/10/12/22673881.html

Also, the DA released a DNA-generated sketch of the man who murdered Lisa Ziegert in Agawam. You may remember this case from UNSOLVED MYSTERIES- girl who worked in a gift card shop murdered in the back of the store.

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/201...made_in_unso.html#incart_river_home


another unresolved mystery- what happened to anon user "tree and rope"?


and ATTN motleygrue- we had mentioned fucked up audio recordings earlier, and i can't remember if i included the Brandon Lawson 911 call. Dive into that fucking rabbit hole if you haven't heard of it. Reddit is awash with theories and transcribed versions of what people think the 911 call says.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Oct 12,2016 5:37pm
In reference to Hoser's comment far above, this must be frustrating as fuck for local LE. The suspect depicted in the link below seems like one of those situations where you're an inch from being able to charge the guy, but that critical piece of information/evidence is missing. Circumstantial stuff can be very difficult. Either way, sad story. An 8 year old disappearing is just fucked up. I hope NHCCU hasn't stored this case away yet.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/belanger_tammy.html



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Oct 12,2016 5:40pm
posbleak said[orig][quote]
susurrate said[orig][quote]
i'm over that whole deal. family is guilty as sin. i'll watch it but i'm sure it will be a puff piece w/ about 5% tension for the cameras.


Yeah I wish it was p much anybody else interviewing but it's the last unsolved crime from my childhood so I'll take anything I can get

Anybody into true crime podcasts, I've been catching up on Sword & Scale and My Favorite Murder, just finished Someone Knows Something and starting Criminal. They're all really solid, MFM is more comedy but they pick up some obscure cases.



also i watched the new ramsey shit on the networks. i believe burke did it and the parents covered it up due to their reputation of themselves and their son. it'd be hard to sway me otherwise, especially with the severe inconsistencies regarding the handwriting of the alleged ransom note, as well as the convenient mobbing of their home by friends and family before, during, and after the police arrived.

also, an officer telling a man to search his own mansion? what the FUCK? that's such a false fucking thing to do. $$$$$$$$$$$ and power and rep can do a lot apparently.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Oct 14,2016 6:56pm
what is up with central mass? if it isn't worcester, you're likely to see some hillbilly drug trash wherever you go. it's basically new missouri.

also, this is extremely fucked up. extremely.

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/201...l#incart_river_home#incart_breaking



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at Oct 15,2016 12:10am
susurrate said[orig][quote]
The Tamam Shud (Somerton Man) is close to being solved. If you don't know it, check it out.

Christine Harron's case has been solved. If you want to see a truly unremorseful sociopathic deviant, check out the murderers comments.
http://cnews.canoe.com/CNEWS/Crime/2016/10/12/22673881.html

Also, the DA released a DNA-generated sketch of the man who murdered Lisa Ziegert in Agawam. You may remember this case from UNSOLVED MYSTERIES- girl who worked in a gift card shop murdered in the back of the store.

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/201...made_in_unso.html#incart_river_home


another unresolved mystery- what happened to anon user "tree and rope"?


and ATTN motleygrue- we had mentioned fucked up audio recordings earlier, and i can't remember if i included the Brandon Lawson 911 call. Dive into that fucking rabbit hole if you haven't heard of it. Reddit is awash with theories and transcribed versions of what people think the 911 call says.



Listened to audio, read up on it, that story is just fucked, could go so many different ways of what could have really happened. I can understand being fucked up on drugs to alter your state of mind, but really why call the police if you have a warrant, and you already called your brother for help, so that leaves me leaning towards something nefarious he stumbled upon.

How do you live in a small town and not know you are running out of gas? Was it a bad drug deal? Other drug dealer wanting to kill him? Why was that last ping from his phone in that area not searched? Or was he some terrible shithead person wanting to start a new life?



toggletoggle post by Nuke central ma at Oct 15,2016 12:17am
Orange Webster Springfield Triangle?



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at Oct 15,2016 12:18am



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Nov 3,2016 6:23pm
http://wwlp.com/2016/11/03/woman-found-chained-like-dog-in-woodruff-sc/ < savage.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/ < this is the best resource you can get on true crime. very active subreddit. lynn messer's possible skeleton may have been discovered and it was posted about today i believe. pretty much a one-stop-shop for unsolved mystery style cravings.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Nov 3,2016 6:24pm


get this shit dude. that call was edited by law enforcement before it was released. it's missing portions. makes it hard to discern the storyline. upsetting.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Nov 6,2016 11:56am
serial killer was caught recently. responsible for the south carolina super bike murders and more. caught cause they found a missing woman in a metal container on his property chained up like a dog.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/06/suspe...g-admits-to-at-least-7-murders.html

http://ijr.com/2016/11/728953-grim-details...is-found-on-sex-offenders-property/



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at Nov 20,2016 1:41pm
Recent missing persons episode from Coast to Coast


bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Nov 20,2016 2:21pm
EXCELLENT. thanks! I listen to it live every night when i go to bed but i'm usually out after 15 minutes or so. i'll be listening to this at work tomorrow.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Nov 23,2016 5:32pm
"Zachary Yashkus posted this on Facebook right before he killed his girlfriend, their 3-year old son and finally himself"



Happened about 4 or so days ago.

http://wnep.com/2016/11/19/three-dead-afte...ning-of-violence-in-luzerne-county/



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Nov 30,2016 4:20pm
http://wate.com/2016/11/30/knox-county-she...ffs-office-to-hold-news-conference/

excerpt:

The Knox County Sheriff’s Office said Joel Michael Guy, 28, was arrested in Baton Rouge and charged with murdering his parents.

Guy was arrested Tuesday evening in Baton Rouge and charged with two counts of first degree murder for the deaths of Joel and Lisa Guy on Goldenview Lane in Knox County. Investigators described the crime scene as “horrific” and said it was a “very gruesome crime scene.”

They are believed to have been murdered between Friday night and Saturday morning. Guy then went back to Baton Rouge where he had been attending LSU. He reportedly withdrew last year.

Both his parents had multiple stab wounds and had been dismembered. Investigators said Guy tried to dissolve his parent’s bodies in an acid-based solution. A hazmat team had to be called in to remove the material.

Remains were disposed of in multiple rooms throughout the house. The chief medical examiner had to remove the remains from the scene for identification.

Detectives say there was information his parents were planning to cut off some of his financial support in a conversation that was to take place on Thanksgiving. It is not yet known if this was a motive.



toggletoggle post by Unfake at Dec 3,2016 8:06am
This kidnapping looks fishy to me. Its got fraud written all over it. A gofundme page is set up, 50k was raised then all of the sudden shows up just in time for Thanksgiving?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/husband-super-mom...e-alive-screaming/story?id=43911092



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Dec 3,2016 9:44am
Unfake said[orig][quote]
This kidnapping looks fishy to me. Its got fraud written all over it. A gofundme page is set up, 50k was raised then all of the sudden shows up just in time for Thanksgiving?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/husband-super-mom...e-alive-screaming/story?id=43911092


I believe you are right on the money. She has been proven to have in the past stated derogatory things about Hispanics on her personal social media shit, gets kidnapped by two Hispanic WOMEN with guns? And they let her live? And all they did was beat her up and cut her hair off? Totally fraudulent for personal gain and media attention. Money will keep coming in through 20/20 dateline 48 hrs episode contracts too no matter whether its real or not. Id bet the farm its a bullshit setup and she's just another Gone Girl.




toggletoggle post by susurrate at Dec 3,2016 1:23pm edited Dec 3,2016 1:24pm
ALTHOUGH

i was fooled pretty hard one time. the infamous matthew muller case in vallejo, california. former marine dressed up in a fucking SCUBA SUIT and invaded the home of a good-looking-young-professional-white-californian-couple's house and put blacked out swim goggles over their eyes and headphones on them and blah blah blah no one believed them including me but then as it fucking turns out.....


It Did Happen.


^edited to say that's a link. couldn't see it before as it was at the bottom.



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at Dec 3,2016 2:03pm
I have read about this case a few years ago about a London M16 agent found dead in a locked travel bag in his tub. It had been ruled a suicide if I am correct.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-32...cking-secret-data-Bill-Clinton.html



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Dec 3,2016 2:16pm
MotleyGrue said[orig][quote]
I have read about this case a few years ago about a London M16 agent found dead in a locked travel bag in his tub. It had been ruled a suicide if I am correct.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-32...cking-secret-data-Bill-Clinton.html


I remember briefly reading that article last year and asking wtf. but now, after all the work i've put in toward my private investigator license, i'd be interested in learning more. this is fairly insane on second glance. i'll have to seek out other news sources for information on it to make a personal profile on what I think.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Dec 3,2016 2:16pm
addendum is being a spy is probably the least best job to ever have because you're 110% expendable.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Dec 3,2016 3:17pm



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Dec 9,2016 3:53pm
old news but this fucking case..... ugh. this is the lowest of the low, scum of the earth. absolute living breathing pieces of human shit. if you don't already know about this one or need a refresher, read it. in all truth, i couldn't care less about the racial disparity and the way that this case invigorated a bunch of white people on the internet to get all mad and type stupid shit they'd never say in person, but i understand the rage. i've never seen another case where i've been filled with so much anger based upon the depravity versus the attempted gain from the crime. what was it for? oh yeah, just some money. or wait, never mind. just an SUV. or wait, "never mind. we got spooked cause we're a bunch of fucking pussies so we don't even care about the SUV now. we're too scared of jail". they got nothing of tangible value.

i was just thinking awhile ago about the death penalty and so forth. was always undecided. still am. but there should be certain standards in place for execution of criminals who beyond any reasonable shadow of a doubt in the eyes of the court and the people are guilty, based upon true irrefutable evidence. standards that would implement a rigorous plan of bodily and mental torture. maybe some bleach down the throat too. i'm sure that girl loved that. fuck. /end rant.


http://archive.knoxnews.com/news/local/hor...-street-ep-358243140-355833211.html



toggletoggle post by aril alert at Dec 10,2016 6:02pm
susurrate said[orig][quote]
old news.


aril alert



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Dec 10,2016 6:46pm
aril%20alert said[orig][quote]
susurrate said[orig][quote]
old news.


aril alert







toggletoggle post by Hoser_NLI at Dec 12,2016 8:40am
susurrate said[orig][quote]
old news but this fucking case..... ugh. this is the lowest of the low, scum of the earth. absolute living breathing pieces of human shit. if you don't already know about this one or need a refresher, read it. in all truth, i couldn't care less about the racial disparity and the way that this case invigorated a bunch of white people on the internet to get all mad and type stupid shit they'd never say in person, but i understand the rage. i've never seen another case where i've been filled with so much anger based upon the depravity versus the attempted gain from the crime. what was it for? oh yeah, just some money. or wait, never mind. just an SUV. or wait, "never mind. we got spooked cause we're a bunch of fucking pussies so we don't even care about the SUV now. we're too scared of jail". they got nothing of tangible value.

i was just thinking awhile ago about the death penalty and so forth. was always undecided. still am. but there should be certain standards in place for execution of criminals who beyond any reasonable shadow of a doubt in the eyes of the court and the people are guilty, based upon true irrefutable evidence. standards that would implement a rigorous plan of bodily and mental torture. maybe some bleach down the throat too. i'm sure that girl loved that. fuck. /end rant.


http://archive.knoxnews.com/news/local/hor...-street-ep-358243140-355833211.html


I hope these fuckbags burn in hell. Hopefully someone does the same to their family.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Jan 4,2017 12:56pm
I find it interesting that authorities suspended the search for this kid that went missing in CT on his dirt bike. I feel like they would only do that if they suspect something weird is up such as a) he intentionally went missing and sent those texts to his girlfriend to throw them off in the wrong dierction, or b) someone else sent those texts on his phone, indicative of foul play.

what say you?

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/201...ml#incart_river_home#incart_m-rpt-2



toggletoggle post by i never leave the house at Jan 4,2017 1:27pm
yeah that story is odd.

some lulz here:
http://turtleboysports.com/missing-18-year...et-speculation-mystery-of-all-time/

and

http://turtleboysports.com/internet-detect...page-that-keeps-censoring-comments/

but to be fair, dying and disappearing in the woods is probably easier to do than people think.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Jan 4,2017 2:06pm
i%20never%20leave%20the%20house said[orig][quote]
http://turtleboysports.com/missing-18-year-old-in-connecticut-has-turned-into-the-greatest-internet-speculation-mystery-of-all-time/



2 things:

1) "But the Internet has turned into a really bad episode of Nancy Grace"- Isn't every episode bad? I've never been able to make it more than a few minutes into one of her shows because she is basically the devil and is the most annoying cunt on the planet.

2) what a shitshow. everyone needs to stay the fuck off social media in general. when the rumor mill starts turning on Facebook or twitter or wherever, everyone's a career detective who passed the test on their first try. and social media is the #1 cause of people opening their mouth, er, typing with their fingers, before thinking.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Jan 4,2017 2:08pm
also, none of those children can spell. that is mind boggling.



toggletoggle post by i never leave the house at Jan 4,2017 3:24pm
i think he has eloped with Maura Murray in the white mountains!



toggletoggle post by wat at Jan 12,2017 9:51am
http://www.providencejournal.com/news/2017...ng-to-81-victims-says-russian-media

Former Siberian policeman Mikhail Popkov, who is already serving a life sentence for the murders of 22 women, has confessed to killing 59 more, police told the Siberian Times.

Nicknamed the "werewolf" of Siberia for the brutality of his methods - he raped women and then killed them with axes, knives or screwdrivers - Mikhail Popkov carried out his bloody rampage between 1992 and 2010 in the Angarsk and Irkutsk regions of Siberia, the paper reported. According to the state news agency Tass, he resigned as a police officer in 1998.



toggletoggle post by wat at Jan 12,2017 1:18pm
necrotized sibling:

http://whdh.com/news/woman-lives-with-sist...rookline-home-for-more-than-a-year/

that must have smelled interesting.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Jan 12,2017 8:16pm
wat said[orig][quote]
necrotized sibling:

http://whdh.com/news/woman-lives-with-sist...rookline-home-for-more-than-a-year/

that must have smelled interesting.


this type of human really interests me. it may be that i come from a sociology background, but i'd love to interview said person.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Jan 13,2017 12:29pm
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/201..._say_body_of.html#incart_river_home


welp, they found him. the vagueness sounds like foul play. i doubt he sent those texts himself after all.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Jan 13,2017 5:45pm
a deal for fuckin weed of all things gone bad. i refuse to believe the kid thats dead had a gun- seems like a bid for self defense. note the alleged gun was not found. funny that turtle boy sports was on the money posting about the marijuana grow that the allen family had. read this shit guys-

http://www.courant.com/breaking-news/hc-to...ains-found-0114-20170113-story.html



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toggletoggle post by susurrate at Jan 24,2017 3:34pm edited Jan 24,2017 4:18pm
those slenderman kids are waaaaaacked. don't all kids know how to use urban dictionary/wikipedia these days? them creepy pasta shits aint real.

also- this has suspicious written all over it.

http://pilotonline.com/news/local/missing-...25-97d6-5ef9-b8f5-5a4cdbbaeac1.html



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Jan 24,2017 3:36pm
to follow up, here's the original story w/ more background info.

http://pilotonline.com/news/local/mom-and-...09-5198-5d65-8163-b76226502aa6.html



toggletoggle post by MotleyGrue at Jan 24,2017 11:23pm
DVR'd the Slenderman, gonna watch it this week under the influence.



toggletoggle post by Nuke Humanity at Jan 25,2017 7:14pm
Woman and children in barrels NH cold case linked to California murder:

http://www.concordmonitor.com/NH-Attorney-...-cases-to-California-murder-7696046



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Jan 25,2017 7:21pm
Nuke%20Humanity said[orig][quote]
Woman and children in barrels NH cold case linked to California murder:

http://www.concordmonitor.com/NH-Attorney-General-s-Office-to-link-cold-cases-to-California-murder-7696046


No way. Wow.


ATTN HOSER ^



toggletoggle post by Nuke Humanity at Jan 26,2017 11:05am
susurrate said[orig][quote]
Nuke%20Humanity said[orig][quote]
Woman and children in barrels NH cold case linked to California murder:

http://www.concordmonitor.com/NH-Attorney-General-s-Office-to-link-cold-cases-to-California-murder-7696046


No way. Wow.


ATTN HOSER ^


the piece of shit died in jail:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/01/2...s/4wlfVCvOkLRi2xMEemRj6H/story.html



toggletoggle post by untimely demise at Feb 23,2017 12:56pm
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/02/2...e/FRBcJh2nHc2KddvmmmkMSJ/story.html

Worcester District Attorney Joseph D. Early Jr. said at a press conference that, based on witness statements and information extracted from the DNA, investigators are looking for a Hispanic or Latino male in his thirties who may have been in the area where Marcotte was killed on Aug. 7. He asked for the public’s help in finding the person.

Early described the person of interest as having light to medium brown skin, an athletic build, and a shaved head or short hair. He said the person would possibly have had scratches on his face, neck, arms, hands, and upper body around the time of the murder.



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toggletoggle post by Hoser at Apr 17,2017 9:44am edited Apr 17,2017 9:45am
Due to who I work for, I am still very interested in getting any info that I can on Tammy Belanger. I still take tips here and there about her disappearance.

http://www.wmur.com/article/exeter-police-...ion-in-case-of-missing-girl/5181427

https://www.doj.nh.gov/criminal/cold-case/victim-list/tammy-belanger.htm



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Apr 17,2017 10:06am
Glad to see Vanessa Marcotte's killer was apprehended. I think there's some other stuff I posted about on this thread which recently had some breakthroughs but I forget.

@ hoser - gotta be tough trying to solve a cold case that old.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Apr 17,2017 3:02pm
We're pretty positive who did it, just never had enough physical evidence to pin it on him. piece of shit died in a Florida jail. Just wish we could find her remains and bring some closure to the family.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Apr 17,2017 3:29pm
Died in a Florida prison? you don't think it's the same perp that died in a Florida prison who some suspect abducted and killed Molly Bish, do you? I understand you may not be able to comment.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Apr 18,2017 9:08am
No, they're unrelated. The suspect in the Belanger case was a Victor Wonyetye. He was in prison in Florida for a similar crime. Total piece of garbage.



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toggletoggle post by daily bad feels at Jul 13,2017 9:06am
spergy looking Pennsylvania guy killed 4 people on his family farm:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/12/us/arrest-missing-men-bucks-county.html





toggletoggle post by susurrate at Jul 16,2017 1:37pm
Lunatic Retard ^


Anywho, Check out the Jo Ringer case. It's a matter of finding the body now. She has to be somewhere around here in the western region of the state.

On top of that, get a load of this. Supremely fucked. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jul/14/young-woman-allegedly-tortured-so-badly-police-thought-she-was-dead



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toggletoggle post by susurrate at Aug 4,2017 5:32pm
sick tats bro




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toggletoggle post by susurrate at Aug 18,2017 12:42pm
whoa!!! i F12'd and removed the paywall but it's a hard paywall so I cant scroll. Can you copy and paste?

Is the name in the article the true name of the guy who was going by the alias "Bob Evans?"

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/drifte...beaudin-case-bodies-barrels-n712506



toggletoggle post by i am elite1111! at Aug 18,2017 4:11pm
copy pasta incoming:


For years the serial killer rambled across the country, working as an electrician and handyman and leaving a trail of victims while masking his true identity. He was Bob Evans in the late 1970s when he arrived in New Hampshire, where he killed a woman and three girls — including his own daughter — and dumped them in steel barrels in the woods of Allenstown.

In the 1980s, he claimed to be Gordon Jenson, a widowed father, when he abandoned a 5-year-old girl at a California trailer park after presumably killing her mother. And he was someone else in 2002 when he murdered his new wife and buried her body in the basement.

Now, seven years after the killer died in prison, still using an identity he stole in Texas, New Hampshire authorities announced Friday that they have positively identified the mystery man.

He’s Terry Peder Rasmussen who was born in Denver in 1943, grew up in Phoenix and served in the US Navy in the early 1960s until being discharged in 1967. During his time in the Navy, Rasmussen was assigned to bases in the western part of the country and in Okinawa, Japan.

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He was married while in the Navy and eventually had four children with his wife, who separated from him in 1973, taking the children with her. Rasmussen’s former wife and children “are alive and accounted for,’’ New Hampshire authorities said Friday.

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The last time Rasmussen’s former wife saw him was around Christmas 1974 when he showed up unexpectedly in Payson, Ariz., authorities said. During that meeting with his former wife and four children, Rasmussen said he was living in the Casa Del Ray apartments in Ingleside, Texas.

He was accompanied by an unidentified woman and authorities are now hoping the disclosure of Rasmussen’s name will lead to discovering the name of that woman.

The stunning breakthrough announced Friday is the latest twist in a New Hampshire murder mystery that baffled authorities for decades, until a woman’s search for her parents helped unravel the case over the last year through DNA and the work of genealogists and police.

In 1985, hunters stumbled upon the barrel containing the decomposing bodies of a woman, believed to be in her mid-20s, and a girl, believed to be about 10 or 11 years old on property bordering Bear Brook. Fifteen years later, a State Police sergeant newly assigned to the case discovered the second barrel.

Authorities believed they were killed between the late 1970s and early 1980s. DNA tests revealed that the woman and two of the girls were related.

Authorities are now trying to determine Rasmussen’s whereabouts since the 1974 meeting in Arizona and the late 1970s when he appeared in New Hampshire using the alias of Bob Evans. While using that alias of Evans, Rasmussen killed the four victims, according to authorities. They said DNA tests revealed he was the father of one of the slain girls, the middle child not related to the others.

Investigators used DNA to match the man known as “Bob Evans” to Rasmussen by taking a sample from a man they now know to be “Evans” son. “Those DNA results and other investigative work have allowed investigator to confirm that Robert ‘Bob’ Evans’ true identity is in fact, Terry Peder Rasmussen,” authorities wrote.

While tracking “Evans’’ movements in the 1970s, authorities learned he was living in Manchester, N.H., with his girlfriend, Denise Beaudin, and her six-month-old daughter, when all three vanished after Thanksgiving 1981.

Beaudin’s family never reported her missing because the couple was having financial difficulties and they believed she had left voluntarily, according to police.

Authorities said they believed Rasmussen also killed Beaudin, and that he had a history of abusing women and children and they suspect that he killed others.

“He certainly fits the profile of a serial killer,” Senior Assistant Attorney General Jeffery Strelzin said during the January press conference.

The break in the long-stalled Allenstown homicide investigation came after Beaudin’s daughter launched a search for her birth family. She was 5, going by the name, Lisa Jenson, and living with a man who claimed to be her father, when he abandoned her at a Scotts Valley, Calif. trailer park in 1986. It wasn’t until years later that she discovered Rasmussen had kidnapped her.

In 2002, Rasmussen killed Eunsoon Jun, a woman he married a year earlier in an unofficial backyard ceremony, and buried her body under a pile of cat litter in the basement of their Richmond, Calif. home. At the time, he was using the name Larry Vanner, but when police ran his fingerprints they came back to Curtis Mayo Kimball -- later determined to be an identity he stole from a man in Texas.

Still using the name Kimball, he pleaded guilty to the slaying and was serving a sentence of 15 years to life when police ordered a DNA test. It revealed that he was not the father of the girl he had abandoned years earlier.

When questioned by police, he insisted he had no memory of the girl or where she came from, according to police. He died in 2010 of natural causes at a California prison, seemingly taking his secrets to the grave.

The girl was adopted by a California couple after she was abandoned and went on to lead what appears to be a remarkably normal life, marrying and having three children of her own.

In 2014, she submitted her DNA to several genomic testing sites, hoping to find matches that would lead to her parents. Ultimately, with the help of genealogists and the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department, she discovered that she was Beaudin’s daughter.

New Hampshire State Police and Manchester Police launched an investigation and discovered that Beaudin’s boyfriend, then known as Evans, was the same man who had abandoned her daughter at the trailer park.

Investigators also discovered that Rasmussen, posing as Evans, worked as an electrician at Waumbec Mills in Manchester, N.H., from 1977 to 1981, and that his supervisor owned the Allenstown property where the bodies were found. Rasmussen also did electrical work at a store on the property and had used the land to dispose of material from the mill.

When authorities announced the stunning break in the Allenstown murders, they released a statement from Beaudin’s daughter, Lisa,who is now 33 years old. She thanked everyone who had worked on her case and asked for privacy.

“I have three beautiful children and a loving husband, and would like our presently happy and secure life to remain intact and protected through the release of this story,” she said.

Anyone with information is asked to contact the New Hampshire State Police Cold Case Unit at 603-223-3856 or Manchester police detectives.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Aug 18,2017 4:26pm
hoser would be stoked to read this



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toggletoggle post by Grandmotherweb at Aug 24,2017 12:51am
Massachusetts: the Alabama of the North.



I wonder, will anyone ever solve the "true crime" of TurtleBoy getting away with gang-stalking people and threatening to burn their houses down, all for the sake of saving his precious pedophile blog??

inquiring minds want to know...



toggletoggle post by Murder critic at Sep 4,2017 2:22pm
This thread lack gore pics.



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Sep 11,2017 2:57pm
Been watching the Zach Adams trial for the murder of Holly Bobo since this morning......

stream: http://www.wildabouttrial.com/one_off/zach...adams-trial-holly-bobo-live-stream/

trial megathread w/ live updates: https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/6zfk65/holly_bobo_trial_megathread/



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Sep 12,2017 10:41pm
interesting. The Johnny Lavern "Snake" Walsh case. Old school photos within:

http://imgur.com/a/2aeYe



toggletoggle post by hmm at Sep 14,2017 8:44am
so it was holly bobos skull in the bucket? gross



toggletoggle post by susurrate at Sep 18,2017 1:56pm edited Sep 18,2017 1:57pm
^ My understanding was that the ginseng hunter picked up a bucket that was flipped upside down and underneath it there was a bunch of blonde hair. I guess intuition kicked in, he turned around, and there on the ground nearby was her skull.


Also-


Gary Schara, 48, of West Springfield arrested for the slaying of Lisa Ziegert. Finally. You may remember this crime from Unsolved Mysteries. She worked in a shop in Agawam and etc etc if you read the article you may recall it.

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/201...lisa_ziegert_slayin.html#incart_std



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