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returntothepit >> discuss >> the official FUCK OFF NOWADAYS BLACK METAL thread by trioxin245 on Aug 22,2012 11:34am
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toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 11:34am
Black metal wasn't always wimpy ass indy rock kids writing 11 minute songs about twigs and berries and shit. There was a time where it was just as extreme as any other genre. Here are some examples to remind us of the days when hearing someone utter the words 'black metal' when describing a band didn't immediately make you write them off forever.



bennyhillifier



bennyhillifier



bennyhillifier



bennyhillifier



bennyhillifier



bennyhillifier


the point is, there was a time when black metal didn't immediately conjure forth images of limp-wristed faggots in plaid shirts.

FUCK OFF NOWADAYS BLACK METAL



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 11:36am
First.

And thanks.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 11:37am
Although I'm in a "twigs and berries" band, I agree.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 11:37am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Although I'm in a "twigs and berries" band, I agree.

you know what I meant.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 11:39am
Aesthetics and fuck you attitude.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 11:44am
and it's not to say that there aren't ANY quality BM bands these days. For example:



bennyhillifier



bennyhillifier








toggletoggle post by WEAKLING at Aug 22,2012 11:47am
HI GUYS. WE RELEASED THE FIRST, BUT WIDELY ACCEPTED CLASSIC, LIMP WRISTED BLACK METAL ALBUM 12 YEARS AGO. U MAD BRO.



toggletoggle post by KEVORD  at Aug 22,2012 11:50am
I support this thread.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 11:52am
I'm a fan of Alcest and the like, but not once would I consider them "black metal." The genre has already done everything it could, so bands are taking the black metal sound and mixing it with other styles. it's something I've learned to accept. That being said, <insert comment about 90s black metal here >



toggletoggle post by iteY at Aug 22,2012 11:53am
BWACK



toggletoggle post by iteY at Aug 22,2012 11:55am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
I'm a fan of Alcest and the like, but not once would I consider them "black metal." The genre has already done everything it could, so bands are taking the black metal sound and mixing it with other styles. it's something I've learned to accept. That being said, <insert comment about 90s black metal here >


i disagree. the genre still has a lot to offer, it just has to be tapped into. nowadays bwack metallers are just sissies.



toggletoggle post by Baneard Stevens at Aug 22,2012 11:56am
inverticrux is better than every band in this thread, we are the most original and frightening of all.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 11:56am
Revenge is an excellent example of what I'm talking about here. Instead of doing what nowadays 'black metal' bands are doing and taking the style and making it LESS extreme in order to keep it 'original,' Revenge came along and make it MORE extreme.



toggletoggle post by MikeOv at Aug 22,2012 11:56am
This is why I appreciate Blut Aus Nord. The project began with a more traditional black metal approach, but over the years he's been able to tranform his sound while still remaining relevant. His playing style is unorthodox yet he's taken the genre to the place it was meant to go. Logical progression; black metal for the 21st century, indeed.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Aug 22,2012 11:57am
Isn't this why the "post-black metal" label was created? So that both the sound and visual styles wouldn't get lumped into the same pile? Not the best solution, but there's never going to be a clear end to genre differentiation.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Aug 22,2012 11:57am
Fuck off post-1969adays black metal


bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 11:58am
MikeOv said[orig][quote]
This is why I appreciate Blut Aus Nord. The project began with a more traditional black metal approach, but over the years he's been able to tranform his sound while still remaining relevant. His playing style is unorthodox yet he's taken the genre to the place it was meant to go. Logical progression; black metal for the 21st century, indeed.


YUP



toggletoggle post by Spence at Aug 22,2012 11:58am
The only black metal I really ever listen to is depressive black metal like Silencer, Shining, Svarti Loghin, etc.

I don't know if this meets Trioxin's expectations or if it's twigs bm.



toggletoggle post by MikeOv at Aug 22,2012 11:58am
transform, rather



toggletoggle post by iteY at Aug 22,2012 11:59am
blech to that. keep it primitive or call it something else.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Aug 22,2012 11:59am
Svarti Loghin put out a Pearl Jam record with harsh vocals, girlfriend metal, do not support.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 12:00pm
MikeOv said[orig][quote]
This is why I appreciate Blut Aus Nord. The project began with a more traditional black metal approach, but over the years he's been able to tranform his sound while still remaining relevant. His playing style is unorthodox yet he's taken the genre to the place it was meant to go. Logical progression; black metal for the 21st century, indeed.


agreed 100%.



toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 22,2012 12:00pm
everybody just shut the hell up and keep posting videos please!



toggletoggle post by Spence at Aug 22,2012 12:00pm
BobNOMAAMRooney%20nli said[orig][quote]
Svarti Loghin put out a Beatles record with harsh vocals, girlfriend metal, do not support.


There you go.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 12:01pm
Alx_Casket said[orig][quote]
Isn't this why the "post-black metal" label was created? So that both the sound and visual styles wouldn't get lumped into the same pile? Not the best solution, but there's never going to be a clear end to genre differentiation.


yes, but (despite the offputting thread title) I meant this thread more as a means to remember the extreme black metal of past years, rather than to bitch about the state of the genre of nowadays.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Aug 22,2012 12:04pm



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 12:07pm
ark said[orig][quote]
everybody just shut the hell up and keep posting videos please!


I would but I'm on my phone.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 12:07pm
ark said[orig][quote]
everybody just shut the hell up and keep posting videos please!




bennyhillifier



bennyhillifier



bennyhillifier




toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Aug 22,2012 12:08pm
trioxin245 said[orig][quote]
Alx_Casket said[orig][quote]
Isn't this why the "post-black metal" label was created? So that both the sound and visual styles wouldn't get lumped into the same pile? Not the best solution, but there's never going to be a clear end to genre differentiation.


yes, but (despite the offputting thread title) I meant this thread more as a means to remember the extreme black metal of past years, rather than to bitch about the state of the genre of nowadays.


Oh. The thread title seemed like it was a thread shitting on NPRBM.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 12:09pm
Alx_Casket said[orig][quote]
trioxin245 said[orig][quote]
Alx_Casket said[orig][quote]
Isn't this why the "post-black metal" label was created? So that both the sound and visual styles wouldn't get lumped into the same pile? Not the best solution, but there's never going to be a clear end to genre differentiation.


yes, but (despite the offputting thread title) I meant this thread more as a means to remember the extreme black metal of past years, rather than to bitch about the state of the genre of nowadays.


Oh. The thread title seemed like it was a thread shitting on NPRBM.


It is, but rather than bitching, I'm just going to post examples of bands who shit on it.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 12:10pm
I posted Mysticum on fagbook the other day and the only person that liked it was Mooney and everyone else made fun of the name. Fo shame.



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Aug 22,2012 12:11pm
i really like that Weakling album

funny this thread is named after a Nargaroth album.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 12:12pm
It is a good album (Weakling).

Nargaroth? Theyve been black metal for 86 years.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Aug 22,2012 12:12pm
rttp circle ov tyrants up in here



toggletoggle post by Burnsy at Aug 22,2012 12:12pm
Yeah, killer riffage on that weakling album. Curious as to how it's "limp wristed."



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 12:15pm
It's regarded as one of the first "hipster" black metal albums if you want to get ignorant.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 12:15pm
that weakling album is good stuff. Who said it was limp wristed?



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 12:15pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
It's regarded as one of the first "hipster" black metal albums if you want to get ignorant.


yea, by the 2003 FMP board haha



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Aug 22,2012 12:15pm
dude does Dispirit now but they dont have any legit releases...seem them at RoD III and they were pretty sick

www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8UUgREMrk4



toggletoggle post by TheTacoBellBell  at Aug 22,2012 12:16pm
BONG



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 12:16pm
also, how could I forget New England's very own Witch Tomb?



bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 12:17pm
THE FUCKING CHAMPS



toggletoggle post by Burnsy at Aug 22,2012 12:17pm
trioxin245 said[orig][quote]
Who said it was limp wristed?

The weakling troll haha.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 12:18pm
Weakling album, what WiTTR wants to be when they arent listening to Drudkh.



toggletoggle post by KEVORD  at Aug 22,2012 12:22pm
trioxin245 said[orig][quote]
Revenge is an excellent example of what I'm talking about here. Instead of doing what nowadays 'black metal' bands are doing and taking the style and making it LESS extreme in order to keep it 'original,' Revenge came along and make it MORE extreme.
Revenge Suck. I no longer support this thread.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 12:25pm
Suit yourself. I'll take "Victory.Intolerance.Mastery" over KEVORD any day.



toggletoggle post by Czarnobog at Aug 22,2012 12:26pm edited Aug 22,2012 12:26pm
i'm pretty much on the same page as ross as far as the kind of black metal i like (shitty, fast, chaotic, raw, etc) but i don't get too worked up about all the watered-down ambient/artsy crap out there these days. i just don't listen to it and don't support the bands who play it. its a trend and it will pass. there's still plenty of good bands out there to be found who "keep it real" or at least don't give a fuck about mass appeal.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Aug 22,2012 12:26pm
Alx_Casket said[orig][quote]
Isn't this why the "post-black metal" label was created? So that both the sound and visual styles wouldn't get lumped into the same pile? Not the best solution, but there's never going to be a clear end to genre differentiation.


"post-black metal" as a label is for a) music journalists and b) art school douches who think they can listen to a genre for 5 minutes and then "progress" it. (do a manifesto about it)



toggletoggle post by MikeOv at Aug 22,2012 12:27pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
I'm a fan of Alcest and the like, but not once would I consider them "black metal." The genre has already done everything it could, so bands are taking the black metal sound and mixing it with other styles. it's something I've learned to accept. That being said, <insert comment about 90s black metal here >


I have my opinions and ideas of what constitutes as black metal, for me. I tend not to care what Decibel, a blog, or posters on a forum have to say about it. Arguing about it just gets so old. I've had many years to discern what qualities I enjoy about black metal, and it basically boils down to aesthetics.

I'll go on record as saying that Neige is a particular artist who's work I tend to greet with anticipation.



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Aug 22,2012 12:27pm
That's why I listen to Trust. Blackest album of the year right here ...




toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 12:27pm
Czarnobog said[orig][quote]
i'm pretty much on the same page as ross as far as the kind of black metal i like (shitty, fast, chaotic, raw, etc) but i don't get too worked up about all the watered-down ambient/artsy crap out there these days. i just don't listen to it and don't support the bands who play it. its a trend and it will pass. there's still plenty of good bands out there to be found who "keep it real" or at least don't give a fuck about mass appeal.


Well yea, like I said earlier, this thread is more about celebrating the GOOD black metal than bitching about the bad.



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Aug 22,2012 12:28pm
i'm not too keen on revenge because a lot of it really is just noise...a cool riff pops up here and there but for the most part its hard to really appreciate and/or get into the music.



toggletoggle post by Czarnobog at Aug 22,2012 12:28pm
also, predicting that "old school death metal" is the next metal genre to get over-run with hipsters who are "too brutal" for black metal.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 12:30pm
Czarnobog said[orig][quote]
also, predicting that "old school death metal" is the next metal genre to get over-run with hipsters who are "too brutal" for black metal.


That shit is already happening brother. Why do you think I'm trying so hard to distance Blessed Offal from being another 'old school death metal' band? Ever since I read a review calling us part of the 'nwosdm' (new wave of old school death metal) trend, I have despised all the nowadays 19 year olds who value Seven Churches more to sound old school than for the actual music.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 12:31pm
I agree with Mikeov, Mark, Ross. Fuck it, AGREED.
We all know what we like, what black metal represents to US, that's all that matters.



toggletoggle post by KEVORD  at Aug 22,2012 12:31pm
AndrewBastard said[orig][quote]
i'm not too keen on revenge because a lot of it really is just noise...a cool riff pops up here and there but for the most part its hard to really appreciate and/or get into the music.
It really is just boring noise and a way to sell $60 Die Hard tin boxed picture discs. When I went to brooklyn I saw at least 10 Revenge shirts. Total hipster.



toggletoggle post by Czarnobog at Aug 22,2012 12:31pm
the rest will be in phish psych-rock jam bands.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 12:33pm
Czarnobog said[orig][quote]
also, predicting that "old school death metal" is the next metal genre to get over-run with hipsters who are "too brutal" for black metal.


Remember 10 years ago when noone gave two shits about Autopsy? Now it's everyone's favorite band all of a sudden.



toggletoggle post by Czarnobog at Aug 22,2012 12:34pm
trioxin245 said[orig][quote]
That shit is already happening brother. Why do you think I'm trying so hard to distance Blessed Offal from being another 'old school death metal' band? Ever since I read a review calling us part of the 'nwosdm' (new wave of old school death metal) trend, I have despised all the nowadays 19 year olds who value Seven Churches more to sound old school than for the actual music.


oh shit, i didn't realize there was actually a new genre name floating around for it. i've just been noticing more and more bands popping up playing that style... who don't look like the type of people who would play that style.

YOU'RE FUCKED.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Aug 22,2012 12:37pm
trioxin245 said[orig][quote]
Czarnobog said[orig][quote]
also, predicting that "old school death metal" is the next metal genre to get over-run with hipsters who are "too brutal" for black metal.


Remember 10 years ago when noone gave two shits about Autopsy? Now it's everyone's favorite band all of a sudden.


That's 'cause MetalSucks had to break kayfabe.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 12:37pm
Czarnobog said[orig][quote]
trioxin245 said[orig][quote]
That shit is already happening brother. Why do you think I'm trying so hard to distance Blessed Offal from being another 'old school death metal' band? Ever since I read a review calling us part of the 'nwosdm' (new wave of old school death metal) trend, I have despised all the nowadays 19 year olds who value Seven Churches more to sound old school than for the actual music.


oh shit, i didn't realize there was actually a new genre name floating around for it. i've just been noticing more and more bands popping up playing that style... who don't look like the type of people who would play that style.

YOU'RE FUCKED.


Don't worry, the next recording we do is going to separate us from that reiterative retro-death metal for good.



toggletoggle post by Czarnobog at Aug 22,2012 12:44pm
that's one cool thing about pulling this nachzehrer/martyrvore tour together, we've been getting to network with a lot of bands and promoters who are definitely part of the backlash against the watered down/mainstream-striving/smiley-face/"post"/etc black and death metal. not sure about the rest of the country but things are looking pretty good on the east coast these days (well, if you leave williamsburg out anyways haha).



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Aug 22,2012 12:49pm
Czarnobog said[orig][quote]
if you leave williamsburg out anyways haha


always the right move.



toggletoggle post by permafrost at Aug 22,2012 12:57pm
trioxin245 said[orig][quote]
Suit yourself. I'll take "Victory.Intolerance.Mastery" over KEVORD any day.


THIS



toggletoggle post by taking abbath at Aug 22,2012 1:00pm
so if a band has black metal influences,but they are not corpsepaint wearing trve kvlt then we shit all over them? please name some of these hipster bands,and tell me why your band ist krieg.



toggletoggle post by Obviously Obvious at Aug 22,2012 1:01pm
Isnt Nachzehrer a band of overnighters?



toggletoggle post by Czarnobog at Aug 22,2012 1:03pm
Obviously%20Obvious said[orig][quote]
Isnt Nachzehrer a band of overnighters?


totally.



toggletoggle post by KEVORD  at Aug 22,2012 1:04pm
permafrost said[orig][quote]
trioxin245 said[orig][quote]
Suit yourself. I'll take "Victory.Intolerance.Mastery" over KEVORD any day.


THIS
Your KEVORD Woodbox Diehard Tryhard picture disc is no longer in the mail.



toggletoggle post by permafrost at Aug 22,2012 1:09pm
I'll accept your Antediluvian diehard lp instead.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Aug 22,2012 1:11pm
taking%20abbath said[orig][quote]
so if a band has black metal influences,but they are not corpsepaint wearing trve kvlt then we shit all over them? please name some of these hipster bands,and tell me why your band ist krieg.


bobnomaamrooney said[orig][quote]
Easily the worst thing about this band and contemporaries such as Krallice is that the genre they're aping is so reliant on atmosphere and context that it's really apparent when inauthentic bands play what they think of as black metal. In that respect these interlopers have no more artistic merit than, say, Eyes of Noctum.

Or as I posted on Krallice after last year's show at Great Scott, band of their ilk's aimless noodling rings as hollow as any USBM band fabricating a pagan heritage to sing about (does Krallice get double points for throwing a Mjölnir into their logo?). In Krallice's case the music isn't connected to anything, it simply exists as shred records; for Liturgy the context is the mile wide and inch deep concept of North American rebirth or something having to do with Aaron Copeland compositions. That's arguably more pathetic an excuse for co-opting black metal than Krallice's shredding because it presents a whitewashed and childish view of North American history as its atmospheric thrust.

It's not even a question of pastoral vs. urban black metal, there are a number of bands who capably write black metal that reflect their urban experiences. These "hipster" black metal bands seem unwilling to do so, whether it's a lack of knowledge beyond second-wave Norwegian bands or willful adherence to a narrow spectrum of influences I'm not sure. And it's a shame because you can make incredible black metal records with an urban context. I don't think any band does this better than Antaeus, Listening De Principii Evangelikum you can hear the crushing density and alienation of Paris' banlieues in everything from the wall of sound drumming and guitars to the terse almost exclusively monosyllabic lyrics MkM grunts in short bursts.


bobnomaamrooney said[orig][quote]
It's also foolish that the first place people go to in defending bands like this is the ultimately empty statement "lol they're not trying to be kvlt" see that shit everywhere and it's tiresome. I joke about bands like this too but really the issue isn't their fashion, it's that their music just isn't good or original.



toggletoggle post by KEVORD  at Aug 22,2012 1:12pm
permafrost said[orig][quote]
I'll accept your Antediluvian diehard lp instead.
It's not in a $60 wood box. No Can Do.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 1:13pm
Company of Heroes wooden box with general metalhead or newb



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 1:17pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Company of Heroes wooden box with general metalhead or newb





toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Aug 22,2012 1:37pm
Velveteen boxes with fanciful calligraphy from Mr. Doctor or Manhattan clam chowder powerbottom



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 1:42pm
ITT: ryan forms an unholy sexual bond with three muscle-bound black men clad in the fur of 1000 white mice to the tune of 'the sacrilege of fatal arms.'



toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 22,2012 1:50pm
you can tell the bands that play black metal because they like it's potentially appealing sound, that make superficial recordings and try to distance themselves from some icky orthodoxy they don't like, then there's the bands that have the show of total skill and attention to aesthetics and attitude wrapped in hate. do you want to listen to some copycat chord machine or do you want to feel the hate?????



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 1:52pm
Copy cat chord machine = 95% all metal



toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 22,2012 1:52pm
yup



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Aug 22,2012 1:56pm
goatcatalyst said[orig][quote]
Wooden crates with army stenciling from Doctor Manhattan blue dong superpowers


FIX'D




toggletoggle post by Czarnobog at Aug 22,2012 2:03pm edited Aug 22,2012 2:12pm
taking%20abbath said[orig][quote]
so if a band has black metal influences,but they are not corpsepaint wearing trve kvlt then we shit all over them? please name some of these hipster bands,and tell me why your band ist krieg.


i'm no aril elitist. don't care about any "trveness" pissing matches, and i listen to plenty of post-'93 bands. i just appreciate bands who play the music they play because its an expression of raw emotion (anger, alienation, etc) and they don't give a fuck about trends or popularity or impressing other musician geeks or making money. that goes for any style of music i give a shit about.




toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 22,2012 2:10pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Company of Heroes wooden box with general metalhead or newb





toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 2:11pm
Czarnobog said[orig][quote]
taking%20abbath said[orig][quote]
so if a band has black metal influences,but they are not corpsepaint wearing trve kvlt then we shit all over them? please name some of these hipster bands,and tell me why your band ist krieg.


i'm no aril elitist. don't care about any "trveness" pissing matches, and i listen to plenty of post-'93 bands. i just appreciate bands who play the music they play because its an expression of raw emotion (anger, alienation, etc) and they don't give a fuck about trends or popularity or impressing other musician geeks or making money. that goes for any style of music i give a shit about.



yea this thread has nothing to do with 'trve' or 'kvlt.' I'm just talking about MUSIC, not scenes. The music is all I ever cared about.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 2:12pm
Czarnobog said[orig][quote]
taking%20abbath said[orig][quote]
so if a band has black metal influences,but they are not corpsepaint wearing trve kvlt then we shit all over them? please name some of these hipster bands,and tell me why your band ist krieg.


i'm no aril elitist. don't care about any "trveness" pissing matches, and i listen to plenty of post-'93 bands. i just appreciate bands who play the music they play because its an expression of raw emotion (anger, alienation, etc) and they don't give a fuck about trends or popularity or impressing other musician geeks or making money. that goes for any style of music i give a shit about.



aril elitist? Pissing contest? I couldn't care less about whats trve or not.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 2:13pm
I wear fucking sandals to band practice.



toggletoggle post by Czarnobog at Aug 22,2012 2:14pm edited Aug 22,2012 2:14pm
i know, you just post like you do sometimes. it was a joke.



toggletoggle post by Czarnobog at Aug 22,2012 2:16pm
fixed

Czarnobog said[orig][quote]
i'm no aril elitist. don't care about any "trveness" pissing matches, and i listen to plenty of post-'93 bands. i just appreciate bands who play the music they play because its an expression of raw emotion (anger, alienation, etc) and they don't give a fuck about trends or popularity or impressing other musician geeks or making money and don't wear sandals. that goes for any style of music i give a shit about.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 2:16pm
Trying to keep FMP alive brah.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 2:27pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
I wear fucking sandals to band practice.


so do I, and so does keith.

FLIP FLOP KVLT ETERNAL



toggletoggle post by Euronymous from the Grave at Aug 22,2012 2:32pm
only black metal half shirts are real.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 2:32pm
LOL



toggletoggle post by Euronymous from the Grave at Aug 22,2012 2:33pm



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Aug 22,2012 2:36pm
next halloween costume ^



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 2:38pm
trioxin245 said[orig][quote]
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
I wear fucking sandals to band practice.


so do I, and so does keith.

FLIP FLOP KVLT ETERNAL


trve old school blackened flip flop metal ov death




toggletoggle post by Cathach2002 at Aug 22,2012 3:06pm
Fuck off to your goat-worship/laveyan jewish degenerate 'music'.
The only true black metal is political.
NATIONAL SOCIALIST BLACK METAL



toggletoggle post by 2011 Kpanzer at Aug 22,2012 3:14pm
I don't want to pole vault over a school of south american catfish or anything, but I prefer 'Blood on Ice' to 'the Return' any day.



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Aug 22,2012 3:16pm
LOL ^



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Aug 22,2012 3:18pm
i hate to pogo stick over a portuguese manowar here but....



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Aug 22,2012 3:18pm
look i'm not trying to triple sow cow over a horseshoe crab here but uhh..



toggletoggle post by Cathach2002 at Aug 22,2012 3:19pm
An honorable foe would show himself......... Pathetic cowardly Zog-poster.



toggletoggle post by Cathach2002 at Aug 22,2012 3:20pm
I'm not trying to dance over the corpses of 6 million dead jews or anyth-OH WAIT! IAM!



toggletoggle post by KEVORD  at Aug 22,2012 4:04pm
Taken from Kim Kelly's Interview with Weapon.


Kim Kelly: What are your thoughts on metal bands (black metal or otherwise) who claim that Satan is unnecessary to create extreme metal? Is it a personal choice, or do you feel that that undercurrent of Satanic feeling is necessary in order to write a proper black metal record?

VM Weapon: Metal bands can sing about whatever the fuck they want. Lyrical matter is up to the band and I believe in freedom of speech. Black Metal, however, is Satan. That's non-negotiable. Lack of Satan means you do not play in a Black Metal band, regardless of how many Immortal riffs you've stolen or much panda makeup you've worn. Weather reports, national socialism, pagan fire dances and pretty flowers do not a Black Metal band make.

So to answer the first part of your question more articulately - if your band claims to be Black Metal but you do not worship the Devil, go fuck yourself.

Kim Kelly: What is black metal in 2012? The term is such a blanket statement - theoretically, one could toss Blasphemy, Wolves in the Throne Room, Mayhem, One Tail One Head, and Drudkh in there, and even Weapon sometimes gets thrown in as well. Is a definition necessary anymore? Is a definition possible?

VM Weapon: I would never - theoretically or otherwise - utter Blasphemy, Root and Mayhem in the same breath with something as asinine as Wolves In The Throne Room. That would be like mentioning a fucktard like Adam Sandler to the work of Al Pacino, Robert De Niro and Clint Eastwood.

Weapon gets tossed in there and we have absolutely no problem with that, because we are still very much a Black Metal band in many ways. People often call us Death Metal, and that's fine too. Definition is necessary, and it is possible. It is necessary for the differentiating betwixt what's quality and what's vapid, what's original and what's contrived, and what's strong and what's weak. And no, not everything in world is subjective. Violence and fundamentalism are 2 very key ingredients in this music, and as long as Weapon is around, that will not change. Hail Satan.



toggletoggle post by trioxin_245  at Aug 22,2012 4:10pm edited Aug 22,2012 4:11pm
use of the word 'betwixt' = I'm burning my Weapon demo tape asap



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 4:12pm
DO WE REALLY WANNA GO DOWN THE SATAN ROAD AGAIN SO WE CAN ALL TROLL EACHOTHER



toggletoggle post by trioxin_245  at Aug 22,2012 4:12pm
Also, I missed the whole 'satan' argument, but I will say that 90% of my favorite Black Metal bands have nothing to do with satan at all. It's not necessarily a conscious choice, it's just funny how many people seem to think that satan has something to do with defining black metal.



toggletoggle post by KEVORD  at Aug 22,2012 4:15pm
we don't have to go down the Satan road again. Just thought the quotes were relevent.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 4:16pm
Nah, let's go down that Satan road again



toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 22,2012 4:16pm
yeah, yet another worthless opinion from Some Dude In A Band



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 4:18pm
According to FIMS, being in a band makes your opinions valid.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 4:19pm
(waiting for Bday boy to take the bait)



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Aug 22,2012 4:20pm
Did she start that Weapon interview bloviating about how Canadian culture looks down on metal or something as misinformed as her statements on Vietnam's government looking down on "godlessness" on the Wu'u interview?

Seriously, she framed a story on a band from a communist nation that's had a history of persecuting religious minorities by claiming they had it rough because the government discouraged godless western influences.

Do you ever run into problems with your families or the authorities because of the kind of music you play?

No. They let us do anything we want. Just don’t try to use drugs or kill anyone and everything will be fine, hehe.


You'd think at some point the dumbest writer in metal would have read something, fucking anything, about Vietnam considering they fought a war of independence against her own country.



toggletoggle post by chernobyl at Aug 22,2012 4:23pm edited Aug 22,2012 4:25pm



toggletoggle post by KEVORD  at Aug 22,2012 4:23pm
It was a Conqueror boxset not Revenge. Basically same band.




toggletoggle post by trioxin_245  at Aug 22,2012 4:24pm
ITT: cher misses the point and KEVORD commits repostery.



toggletoggle post by chernobyl at Aug 22,2012 4:25pm
I got the point, I just wanted to post black metal stuff I like



toggletoggle post by trioxin_245  at Aug 22,2012 4:27pm
it's not just about GOOD black metal, it was supposed to be about when black metal was actually EXTREME and not just another outlet for faggy art students to express how different they are.



toggletoggle post by KEVORD  at Aug 22,2012 4:27pm
I just wanted to show how over the top silly that boxset is. That's the metal tin version. I couldn't find a picture of the wood box that I think was actually $80.



toggletoggle post by trioxin_245  at Aug 22,2012 4:28pm
I don't disagree that the box set is silly as hell, but I love my cd version, and I would totally rock that red shirt DAILY SON.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 22,2012 4:30pm
wheres general metalhead when you need him



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Aug 22,2012 4:31pm



toggletoggle post by chernobyl at Aug 22,2012 4:33pm
faggy drop out art students are gay



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Aug 22,2012 4:48pm
Though my appreciation of the genre is limited, I believe the success of any up and coming extreme black metal band clearly hinges on the members' willingness to do crime. More specifically arson and murder. Rape works too.

Now go forth and prosper, foghats.



toggletoggle post by Beleth  at Aug 22,2012 4:57pm
BobNOMAAMRooney%20nli said[orig][quote]
Fuck off post-1969adays black metal


bennyhillifier


Yup. This album is a mindfuck.



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toggletoggle post by BostonSucks at Aug 22,2012 8:20pm
So you complain about the current state of BM yet alot of what you consider good "BM" are black/death bordering on noise forgettable crap. You all sound like you should just stick to your old school death metal revival that's equally as trendy as the modern BM you shun. Can you not do better than either overly melodic black/death or redundant bestial black/death for examples? theres more than just HHR style bands and WITTR...This is why the boston scene sucks. Cocaine fags.



toggletoggle post by Andrew Hock at Aug 22,2012 8:30pm
YAY.



toggletoggle post by chernobyl at Aug 22,2012 8:31pm
BostonSucks said[orig][quote]
So you complain about the current state of BM yet alot of what you consider good "BM" are black/death bordering on noise forgettable crap. You all sound like you should just stick to your old school death metal revival that's equally as trendy as the modern BM you shun. Can you not do better than either overly melodic black/death or redundant bestial black/death for examples? theres more than just HHR style bands and WITTR...This is why the boston scene sucks. Cocaine fags.


TI



toggletoggle post by my_dying_bride at Aug 22,2012 9:07pm
Euronymous%20from%20the%20Grave said[orig][quote]


this is why black metal is gay nOW!!! wimpy little fags like this guy!!!POSER!!!



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toggletoggle post by Snowden NLI at Aug 22,2012 10:05pm
Haha, I love that Cro Magnon found its way into this thread.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 10:36pm
I still say SCARED STUPID is the best Jim Varney film.



toggletoggle post by Burnsy at Aug 22,2012 10:40pm
Snowden%20NLI said[orig][quote]
Haha, I love that Cro Magnon found its way into this thread.

Had never heard of them before that post but I purchased the album with haste. Curious to hear the rest of the album.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 22,2012 10:50pm
It's a good album. Varied. Half of it is kind of sub-par.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Aug 22,2012 11:48pm



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toggletoggle post by Yeti at Aug 23,2012 8:15am
there are a lot of good points in this thread. i guess i shouldn't care so much about the homogenization of black metal. fuck the community aspect, bring back the isolation. fuck it, i'm going to listen to Pest.



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Aug 23,2012 8:23am
which one?



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Aug 23,2012 8:23am
Blasphemy is My Throne. per your recommendation.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 23,2012 8:41am
Isolation is the way to go. I would also say LOL @ city blackmetalers but I don't want to make anyone mad. Oops, I said it.



toggletoggle post by Snowden at Aug 23,2012 9:02am
Burnsy said[orig][quote]
Snowden%20NLI said[orig][quote]
Haha, I love that Cro Magnon found its way into this thread.

Had never heard of them before that post but I purchased the album with haste. Curious to hear the rest of the album.


I think they're one of the ultimate dude-working-at-weird-record-store-blows-your-mind-maan bands, or at least that's who I heard them through.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Aug 23,2012 9:02am
What does that make you, a commuting bm'er?



toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 23,2012 9:04am
city blackmetallers like brooklynvegan or like peste noire? what does that mean?



toggletoggle post by Snowden at Aug 23,2012 9:04am
trioxin_245 said[orig][quote]
it's not just about GOOD black metal, it was supposed to be about when black metal was actually EXTREME


Totally feeling you here. I mean, EXTREME doesn't always mean good but at least it's an ethos.



toggletoggle post by Snowden at Aug 23,2012 9:06am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Isolation is the way to go. I would also say LOL @ city blackmetalers but I don't want to make anyone mad. Oops, I said it.


You mean like when Neige tries to make music about "urban alienation" or whatever? Because I'd guess that outside of like, rural Scandinavian and Nationalist Quebecqois bands, a pretty big majority of black metal musicians are in or around cities.



toggletoggle post by Burnsy at Aug 23,2012 9:19am
trioxin_245 said[orig][quote]
it's not just about GOOD black metal, it was supposed to be about when black metal was actually EXTREME.

Dude! You want extreme black metal? Dude from trivium has a SICK new extreme black metal project coming out.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 23,2012 9:19am
Bands that live in, play in, socialize in, spend their whole life in a major urban environment. I'm sorry, I don't find much ehtos or muse in major cities. If you want to compare cities like Bergen to any major US metropolis, be my guest.
But yes, I expected flak and I got it. The City is so grim, I can relate. I feel full of hatred whenever I travel to the city to work.



toggletoggle post by chrisREX  at Aug 23,2012 9:27am
I listened to this twice the other day. I ruled this band out a couple years back, but I think I need to back track.




toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 23,2012 9:29am
no flak bro, just a rollseyes. good bands come from everywhere.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 23,2012 9:30am
Obviously. I'm just being a dick.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 23,2012 9:43am edited Aug 23,2012 9:52am
It's a topic that has been discussed for years on various metal boards. It's nothing new. Some of my favorite bands are city bands. Personally, when I'm writing riffs, the last thing I'd think about is urbanism.
Here is a decent thread with the idea presented, and recommendations:
http://www.metal-archives.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=77968

edit: I didn't differentiate between the two: bands FROM the city, or bands that use urbanism in their art and songs. obviously, most people here are from the city, so it was a lovejab.



toggletoggle post by Czarnobog at Aug 23,2012 10:13am
pfft, you twig & berry black metal hicks don't know shit about unbridled nihilism and misanthropic hatred for the human race. try being stuck on the 66 bus from roxbury to allston during rush hour traffic a few times a week then get back to me.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 23,2012 10:16am
lollll. MOVE NACHZEHRER TO HANSON



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 23,2012 10:19am
Everytime I'm in the city, I hate people more and more. At least in the financial district. Bunch of workerbees and drones.



toggletoggle post by Czarnobog at Aug 23,2012 10:23am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
lollll. MOVE NACHZEHRER TO HANSON


fuck that. i might have the swampy bog water flowing through my veins, but no way would i ever move back there.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Aug 23,2012 10:24am
Czarnobog said[orig][quote]
pfft, you twig & berry black metal hicks don't know shit about unbridled nihilism and misanthropic hatred for the human race. try being stuck on the 66 bus from roxbury to allston during rush hour traffic a few times a week then get back to me.


I can confirm this.



toggletoggle post by Czarnobog at Aug 23,2012 10:24am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Everytime I'm in the city, I hate people more and more. At least in the financial district. Bunch of workerbees and drones.


those aren't real people.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 23,2012 10:27am
Commuting is the worst. You know what? Fuck it. You city guys have more hatred than anyone else.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Aug 23,2012 10:40am
yeah i can't agree with you on the city thing. living in the city made me a hateful and angry person. now that i live in an area with crickets i'm much more relaxed. living in the woods you get dreamier music like Walknut, living in the city you get machine-like industrial like Godflesh. and yes i'm well aware they have nothing in common.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 23,2012 10:46am
You nailed it with Godflesh.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 23,2012 11:08am
Anyway to get back on topic, I got into black metal because of dirty, mean shit like this, not because of some silly pseudo-intellectual ethos about a style of music that was essentially started by a bunch of teenagers.



bennyhillifier



bennyhillifier




bennyhillifier

I'm aware that BMoA isn't exactly BM, but it's still relevant to this thread, because every time I listen to that tape or 7", all I can think of is 'man, nowadays black metal is for FAGGOTS.'



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 23,2012 11:21am
Ethos and aesthetics are usually valid for discussion as the genre is so broad now, but I see what your point is.

The one album that made me really want to rip my skin off when I was younger:

bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 23,2012 11:24am
I wish I was on a computer. Embedding is suck a painstaking process. I will add to this thread when I get home, if I remember



toggletoggle post by andrewbastard nli at Aug 23,2012 11:41am
Yeti said[orig][quote]
Blasphemy is My Throne. per your recommendation.


So good. I'm the only one that loves that Pest over swe and ger pests...though swe is a close 2nd although they're completely different styles. I can't get into that german pest.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 23,2012 11:46am
Heh, German Pest isn't as good.



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Aug 23,2012 11:47am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Bands that live in, play in, socialize in, spend their whole life in a major urban environment. I'm sorry, I don't find much ehtos or muse in major cities. If you want to compare cities like Bergen to any major US metropolis, be my guest.
But yes, I expected flak and I got it. The City is so grim, I can relate. I feel full of hatred whenever I travel to the city to work.


i used to think along these lines.

when i stayed at Daniel from Ashdautas house in LA for a few days (OMG i know the doodz from the BTC!!) i was like, 'how do you write grim black metal in this environment? its fucking sunny and BEAUTIFUL out EVERY DAY'

but that was 2002 Kinslayer...I'm over that mindset; where you live has no bearing on your mental state when creating music IMO. If anything a hatred for humanity would be stronger in someone living among other humans...but whatevz. i dont even care mannnnnnn




toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 23,2012 11:50am edited Aug 23,2012 11:50am
Hahhaa, I was thinking of the good ol' days when a bunch of people thought that way. I remember asking Ashdautas that same question at Korey's house and they laughed and started talking about how awesome their guitar player's mom made tacos.



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Aug 23,2012 11:54am
hahah...dude the first time I met Daniel, I was still dating Jaime and we were at some black metal fest that Kyle KEP prods) booked but out in LA and he walks up to me and we're shooting the shit then he kinda turns and is looking at something else and Jamie nudges me and points to his groin area...HIS FLY WAS DOWN AND HIS DICK WAS COMPLETELY OUT hahaha we LOLd.

I dont think I ever told him that.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 23,2012 11:56am
Hahahaha.
Also, Ross is going to get mad for thread derailment again



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Aug 23,2012 11:57am
oh shit...what i meant to post was:


bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 23,2012 11:58am
The point of this thread was to avoid these tired discussions about ethos and focus on the reasons you got into black metal in the first place. I'm pretty sure my first thought as a 13 year old upon hearing 'Weeping in Heaven' wasn't 'man this is good, but I don't understand how he can live in that environment in NY and still make music like this.' It was more along the lines of 'fuck yea, this is dirty and extreme as hell, I want more.'



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 23,2012 12:05pm
The point is, my fondest memories of black metal were the times where I was experiencing it for the first time, not the times when I was finally old enough to consider myself elite enough to tell other people why they aren't as black metal as me.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 23,2012 12:20pm
I first got into it for its escapism and stances on everything it stood against. anti urbanism was always a core element of my personal take on it because I dislike people and did not grow up in the city. Music is music, but blackmetal meant more to me than that. Granted, that was a while ago now, so it's all for lulz now.
But yes Ross, I SEE YOUR POINT. CARRY ON WITH THE VIDEOS GOOD SIR.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 23,2012 12:26pm
So you're telling me when you were like 12 years old and you heard 'a blaze in the northern sky' your first thoughts were of the core element of anti-urbanism and the stances it took on escapism? I guess you were a more thoughtful 12 year old than I was, because although it might have taken that shape later on for me, my FIRST impression of black metal was to grow my hair long and bang my head.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 23,2012 12:33pm
it was a combination of everything that was going on in my life. I was reading a lot of fantasy novels back then and also would go out to the woods with my headphones and blare black metal. I guess I'm a twig and berries guy at heart, haha. like I said in text message, I didnt get heavily involved in think about "ethos" until I smoked a lot of weed and started memorizing countless shitty bands from countless countries. But yea, when I first heard it, I DIDNT GIVE A FUCK BECAUSE OMG THIS MUSIC IS AWESOME.



toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 23,2012 12:35pm
my first thought was "these immortal guys are doing the exact same thing i read about in fantasy books"



toggletoggle post by Czarnobog at Aug 23,2012 12:39pm
i got into black metal via crust punk and death metal sometime in the mid-90s. it wasn't really a huge leap from amebix, bolt thrower or celtic frost to darkthrone and satyricon. i don't remember having any deep bloated thoughts about it, just some new music that expanded on shit i was already into.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 23,2012 12:42pm
Czarnobog said[orig][quote]
i got into black metal via crust punk and death metal sometime in the mid-90s. it wasn't really a huge leap from amebix, bolt thrower or celtic frost to darkthrone and satyricon. i don't remember having any deep bloated thoughts about it, just some new music that expanded on shit i was already into.


Yea that's pretty much what I'm saying. I loved it but it didn't give me any kind of deep-seeded meaning or anything, it was just some grimy, extreme ass shit to thrash the fuck out to at the time.



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Aug 23,2012 12:42pm
bobby saw Phil Anselmo in a Dark Throne shirt and was hooked.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 23,2012 12:45pm
AndrewBastard said[orig][quote]
bobby saw Phil Anselmo in a Dark Throne shirt and was hooked.


haha I actually got into EHG because Phil was wearing a Dopesick shirt in the video for 'Im Broken' and I was always curious to hear what they sounded like so I bought the cd.

That was how you used to have to find shit before internet. Like, I heard Mercyful Fate in the mid 90s because Metallica cited them as an influence, so I went and checked them out and loved it.

Only thank-you list discoveries are real.



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Aug 23,2012 12:50pm
trioxin245 said[orig][quote]
AndrewBastard said[orig][quote]
bobby saw Phil Anselmo in a Dark Throne shirt and was hooked.


haha I actually got into EHG because Phil was wearing a Dopesick shirt in the video for 'Im Broken' and I was always curious to hear what they sounded like so I bought the cd.

That was how you used to have to find shit before internet. Like, I heard Mercyful Fate in the mid 90s because Metallica cited them as an influence, so I went and checked them out and loved it.

Only thank-you list discoveries are real.


or like the little check box order forms that used to be inside tapes...you'd just order some random band that looked cool and hoped for the best



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 23,2012 12:59pm
Yea, weed made me think way too much for my own good. Wayyyyy toooooo muuuuuchhhhhh.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 23,2012 1:00pm
Haha backed on the check box. I used to get catalogues and randomly select bands.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 23,2012 1:03pm
AndrewBastard said[orig][quote]
trioxin245 said[orig][quote]
AndrewBastard said[orig][quote]
bobby saw Phil Anselmo in a Dark Throne shirt and was hooked.


haha I actually got into EHG because Phil was wearing a Dopesick shirt in the video for 'Im Broken' and I was always curious to hear what they sounded like so I bought the cd.

That was how you used to have to find shit before internet. Like, I heard Mercyful Fate in the mid 90s because Metallica cited them as an influence, so I went and checked them out and loved it.

Only thank-you list discoveries are real.


or like the little check box order forms that used to be inside tapes...you'd just order some random band that looked cool and hoped for the best


yea like Blue Grape (something like that) merchandising and all that.




toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Aug 23,2012 1:03pm
AndrewBastard said[orig][quote]
hahah...dude the first time I met Daniel, I was still dating Jaime and we were at some black metal fest that Kyle KEP prods) booked but out in LA and he walks up to me and we're shooting the shit then he kinda turns and is looking at something else and Jamie nudges me and points to his groin area...HIS FLY WAS DOWN AND HIS DICK WAS COMPLETELY OUT hahaha we LOLd.

I dont think I ever told him that.

arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Hahahaha.
Also, Ross is going to get mad for thread derailment again


If looking at dudes' dicks isn't on topic for this thread, I don't know what is.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Aug 23,2012 1:09pm
trioxin245 said[orig][quote]
So you're telling me when you were like 12 years old and you heard 'a blaze in the northern sky' your first thoughts were of the core element of anti-urbanism and the stances it took on escapism? I guess you were a more thoughtful 12 year old than I was, because although it might have taken that shape later on for me, my FIRST impression of black metal was to grow my hair long and bang my head.


Heh - my first thought on hearing Darkthrone was "WHOAH - is that a bear?" because it was Soulside Journey on tape.

trioxin245 said[orig][quote]

Only thank-you list discoveries are real.


A THOUSAND TIMES THIS



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 23,2012 1:11pm
Best way to hear new bands = compilations too. There used to be some killer comps that were out in the 90s. Even Nuclear Blasts' "DEATH" comps had some good shit on it.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Aug 23,2012 1:18pm
trioxin245 said[orig][quote]
The point of this thread was to avoid these tired discussions about ethos and focus on the reasons you got into black metal in the first place. I'm pretty sure my first thought as a 13 year old upon hearing 'Weeping in Heaven' wasn't 'man this is good, but I don't understand how he can live in that environment in NY and still make music like this.' It was more along the lines of 'fuck yea, this is dirty and extreme as hell, I want more.'


hahaha awesome.

I grew up in a blue collar predominantly white suburban town next to Worcester, but i was a loser so i spent my entire childhood and most of the teen years mostly alone in the acres of woods behind my house. i think the first time i ever heard black metal was on the first Blackened compilation in 97, i bought it from Record Town because it had cool sounding band names on the back. i guess that would make "I Am the Black Wizards" the first song i ever heard, and i was hooked.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Aug 23,2012 1:23pm
i was the only kid in my entire town who knew anything about black metal, so it's always been about isolation to me. most of my adolescence was spent sitting alone in my room with my headphones on listening to "Hvis Lyset Tar Oss" while my classmates were out playing spin-the-bottle. oh man i remember my sister HATING "that stupid song with the flute", meaning "Dark Medieval Times" hahaha.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 23,2012 1:36pm
^ ditto. Zero people around Middleboro liked black metal. Even in highschool, no one else. Sucked, but at the same time, was good. Introvert music. Not sure what happened, I cant stop yapping these days. BRING BACK ANGRY ADOLESCENT ARIL.



toggletoggle post by Czarnobog at Aug 23,2012 1:48pm
i had it easy. already lived in providence by the time i got into black metal and had fast forward records (precursor to armageddon) to check out records. suckers.



toggletoggle post by Gregd-blessedoffal  at Aug 23,2012 2:11pm
First time I heard Venom was on The Straight Ahead Show back around 1982. In Nomine Satanas was the track. Scared the fucking shit out of me. I never heard anything so over the top and raw in my life. DO IT AGAIN!













toggletoggle post by Yeti at Aug 23,2012 3:20pm
Czarnobog said[orig][quote]
i had it easy. already lived in providence by the time i got into black metal and had fast forward records (precursor to armageddon) to check out records. suckers.


i only had Record Town at the local mall, but back then they had a pretty good stock. i remember finding Abigor, Old Funeral, Abominator, and others.



toggletoggle post by Czarnobog at Aug 23,2012 3:36pm edited Aug 23,2012 4:29pm
as far as getting exposed to decent music in general i was pretty lucky growing up on the south shore too. back in the day the hanover mall had musicsmith, which actually had a good amount of underground punk, hardcore, metal, goth etc. whoever was buying for them in the '80s/early '90s knew what they were doing.



toggletoggle post by trioxin_245  at Aug 23,2012 3:39pm
I got a lot of my shit from that Second Coming place in harvard square in the late 90's. Guy was cool, would always throw you extra shit if he liked your taste.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 23,2012 3:40pm
All I went to was "the wall"and then newburys later on.



toggletoggle post by Cathach2002 at Aug 23,2012 4:16pm
Vinland Winds, Panzerfaust & Resistance are the only places you should be obtaining music from.TOTAL SUPPORT



toggletoggle post by ancient_master  at Aug 23,2012 4:24pm
Words & Music in Fairhaven had a used tape section which was my first exposure to underground metal



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 23,2012 4:32pm
ancient_master said[orig][quote]
Words & Music in Fairhaven had a used tape section which was my first exposure to underground metal

heh, I remember that. Is it still there?



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Aug 23,2012 4:33pm
I used to go to Webster Music & Sound. They had a "poster crypt". I got a Venom back patch there that would end up waiting 10 years for a suitable jacket to affix it to.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Aug 23,2012 4:44pm
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
I used to go to Webster Music & Sound. They had a "poster crypt". I got a Venom back patch there that would end up waiting 10 years for a suitable jacket to affix it to.


I still have a Vitus back patch I bought like 10 years ago from old orchard beach that I'm probably never going to use.



toggletoggle post by Hunter Gunt-Bendsdix at Aug 23,2012 4:50pm
I first got into black metal after my dad bought drilling rights in the North Sea off Norway when I told him Pitchfork had reviewed this greatest hits compilation by some band called Emperor.



toggletoggle post by ancient_master  at Aug 23,2012 5:55pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
ancient_master said[orig][quote]
Words & Music in Fairhaven had a used tape section which was my first exposure to underground metal

heh, I remember that. Is it still there?


nah, long gone...though for a while it moved across from the dartmouth mall- the selection wasn't near as good as it was in Fairhaven, I think they changed ownership until they realised no one buys cds anymore



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