I could make the argument that some of those are speed metal, crossover, and a mainstream band that moved away from pure thrash. But I'll leave that kind of stuff to Lamp.
Eh, speed metal, crossover and thrash metal are pretty indistinguishable some of the time. I try not to nitpick. Personally, I don't consider Sepultura or Possessed thrash, but other people do. it's whatever, subgenre arguments are endless. haha
As for the Metallica one, I still think AJFA gets too much hate.
And Sanctuary have thrash-elements enough for me. But I also say Agent Steel has thrash elements and people would probably argue with me on that as well. Either way, Sanctuary are great.
Are you kidding? That's the only Fates Warning album that's thrash.
There's bits and pieces that aren't thrash, but as a whole, The Ivory Gate of Dreams is one of the best thrash metal songs ever recorded - despite parts being acoustic.
Mattheos himself ADMITS that No Exit was basically all one big attempt to cash in on the whole thrash scene.
If you believe in the term "speed metal", then I could see why you'd say IT'S NOT THRASH, but as a whole this album is all a bunch of thrash riffs, aggressive vocals/lyrics and typical thrash production quality.
Just because there is a couple of thrashy parts that doesn't make it a CLASSIC THRASH ALBUM. So Judas Priest Painkiller is a thrah album?
Well, the "classic" is completely subjective and a personal opinion. I consider classic thrash anything pre-94 that isn't Slayer. Other people probably have differing definitions on what they consider "classic thrash".
But Painkiller, while heavier than earlier JP, has nothing in common with No Exit. At all. Even vocally Ray Alder and Halford are totally different.
But as a whole, No Exit fits my definition of classic. With the exception of only a few acoustic bits, which a lot of thrash metal bands have, it is thrash. And it is, in fact, an album.
Labeling genres is just a subjective classification method, there's lots of room for differing opinions and there's a lot of bands that fit into multiple genres.
Besides, if No Exit isn't thrash, what do you consider it?
post by Spence at Aug 22,2012 9:19am edited Aug 22,2012 9:20am
Have you heard the original Battalions of Fear? Not the 88 re-release under the name Blind Guardian, but the 1987 version they released as Lucifer's Heritage?
I bought that Virus on vinyl on a whim from that dude with the Oaken Throne (i think?)distro at that outdoor Berlin, New Hampshire gig I did with CNV way back in the day. I was stoked.
It's more of a HC album than anything else. There are definitely elements of thrash and other kinds of metal of course, but it's definitely not a thrash album. Why do I care? I don't, I'm just bored.
This thread has inspired me to listen to more Hirax and Razor, both are bands i've known of for forever but never got around to listening to.
post by Lamp nli at Aug 22,2012 8:37pm
Do it, I don't care for the first four Razor albums but 5, 6, and 7 (Violent Restitution, Shotgun Justice, Open Hostility) are some of the most vicious thrash albums ever.
I meant this thread to be about personal TOP OF THE POPS, RIFFERS, wherein once the needle hits the
groove its like you are back in those old days and can still sing along word for word, air guitar note for note with the same enthusiasm.
I love their 1st one, but this one's good too too...
the vocals on this one kind of ruin it for me
I have a cassette of the original mixes of this album, the vox were more 'death-y'.
no idea why they cleaned em up
post by Big bag of assorted nigger parts at Aug 22,2012 9:36pm
The Rev posted one of my top-two faves, I did the next few that are desert-island thrash to me. These other fags posted Testament, Anthrax, Megadeth and other tinkly non-thrash metal, whatever, gaylords. THRASH OR FUCKING DIE.
The Rev posted one of my top-two faves, I did the next few that are desert-island thrash to me. These other fags posted Testament, Anthrax, Megadeth and other tinkly non-thrash metal, whatever, gaylords. THRASH OR FUCKING DIE.
post by demondave at Aug 23,2012 3:23pm edited Aug 23,2012 3:23pm
I've got an old issue of THRASH METAL from 1987 that I pulled out. It has a top 20 thrash albums of all time (so far). I think I'm gonna scan it and post it up.
It's funny when people talk about thrash in hindsight. Over the years a lot of stuff was re-catagorized as death or black because fans of those styles wanted to build on other bands.
Bathory, Venom and Celtic Frost were considered thrash. Early Sodom, Sepultura and Sarcofago were called thrash.
Death and Black metal were kicked around as terms, but so were Combat metal, power metal, speed metal, technical metal, Satanic Metal, white metal etc etc.
wow, I'm looking at a Metal Church article in this thing and it says
"The sound? Needs a name. Pick one - thrash metal, speed metal, death metal, black metal, HEAVY METAL. But isn't that where we started?"
The article goes on to say they sound like METAL CHURCH. ha ha
Is it just me, or is 1987 a bit too early for them to begin a "TOP TWENTY ALBUMS OF ALL TIME" list considering the genre started in... what? 1982/1983? And didn't even really kick off till 1985.
yeah, it was too early. But it was written by Don Kaye and it even had the "So Far" in the title. it was a reprint of the same thing that was in the "Metal Forces" english magazine. That magazine was like Gospel to tape traders back in the day.
I've got an old issue of THRASH METAL from 1987 that I pulled out. It has a top 20 thrash albums of all time (so far). I think I'm gonna scan it and post it up.
It's funny when people talk about thrash in hindsight. Over the years a lot of stuff was re-catagorized as death or black because fans of those styles wanted to build on other bands.
Bathory, Venom and Celtic Frost were considered thrash. Early Sodom, Sepultura and Sarcofago were called thrash.
Death and Black metal were kicked around as terms, but so were Combat metal, power metal, speed metal, technical metal, Satanic Metal, white metal etc etc.
wow, I'm looking at a Metal Church article in this thing and it says
"The sound? Needs a name. Pick one - thrash metal, speed metal, death metal, black metal, HEAVY METAL. But isn't that where we started?"
The article goes on to say they sound like METAL CHURCH. ha ha
I hear you about the genre names changing over the years. I once saw an article in the early nineties (I believe it was in hit parader) that called Slayer "power metal"
Anyway, CARDINAL SIN - querer es poder was a good album back in the day.
