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returntothepit >> discuss >> Lowest of the low... asking RTTP for rental/legal advice by xmikex on May 25,2012 2:32pm
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toggletoggle post by xmikex at May 25,2012 2:32pm
So I'm meeting with a rental agent in 3 hours to sign a lease on an apartment.

I filled out a rental application and put down a deposit on the apartment last week. The rental app is pretty straightforward in that I agree to the timetable of payments outlined. If I pass the credit/background check then I agree to rent the apartment. If the landlord rejects the application I get my deposit refunded, if I back out for no reason they keep the money.

BUT It also says the following:

"The undersigned warrants and represent that all statements herein are true and agrees to execute upon presentation a STANDARD FORM APARTMENT LEASE, a copy of which the applicant has received or has had occasion to examine, which lease or agreement may be terminated by the Lessor if any statement herein made is not true."


I was never given or shown the lease. Is this technically a beach of contract? If they show me the lease and there's something I don't like on it, do I have grounds to turn it down and get my deposit back?



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at May 25,2012 2:47pm
So you signed the rental app, thereby agreeing that you received a copy of the lease? You should have asked for it before you put down the money and your signature.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at May 25,2012 2:52pm
Old news.



toggletoggle post by chernobyl at May 25,2012 2:53pm
Let me ask you this, Mike.

Who rly cares, bro?



toggletoggle post by xmikex at May 25,2012 2:55pm
chernobyl said[orig][quote]
Who rly cares, bro?


Sounds like a mystery for Cherlock Holmes.

Useful advice or gtfo.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at May 25,2012 2:58pm
Without knowing what the law would be for something like that, I would say that on it's face value, you would not have any grounds to get your deposit back since, like Alx said, you already signed the contract that states you already received the lease.

I could be wrong though.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at May 25,2012 2:58pm
If you don't like something on the lease, ask them to change it and they should agree within reason. Read harder next time.



toggletoggle post by chriskar at May 25,2012 3:00pm
from reading that, all the contract states is that youll have had time to read the agreement before signing. if you find something in the contract not suitable for you, you can back out assuming they won't accomodate you. that would be grounds for reasonable negating of the contract. Backing out over an issue in the agreement would not be considered "for no reason"

its basically stating that you will have read and understood what you are signing when you agree to lease...make sense?



toggletoggle post by xmikex at May 25,2012 3:04pm
I wish everyone just lived in Chinatown and you settled things by the law of the jungle.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at May 25,2012 3:05pm
if you haven't signed a lease you aren't obligated to do anything. mass has a lot of renter protection laws, if for any reason you end up not signing, you should be able to get your deposit back one way or the other.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at May 25,2012 3:08pm



toggletoggle post by xmikex at May 25,2012 3:33pm
Thanks Ark, but I'm not sure if I found anything relevant to my situation.

I can't afford this apartment anyways, so I'll be homeless and/or dead in 6 months no matter what. All problems solved.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at May 25,2012 3:42pm
i've looked at places outside of boston before, i don't know how you guys afford that shit.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at May 25,2012 4:12pm
A lot of renters contracts in mass are given a 24 period where you can back out for almost any reason.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at May 25,2012 4:16pm
well, as mentioned this was a week ago, and I don't see any time stipulation on it.



toggletoggle post by alexc nli at May 25,2012 4:40pm
Did the realtor have you sign an agency/fee disclosure? This is something pretty standard that you sign before you even go see a place. If so, you can back out for any reason before acceptance, but once you have been accepted by the landlord, typically those disclosures state that the agency and/or landlord can hold your deposit as "damages". The rental app itself doesn't usually hold up on its own in said situation.



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at May 25,2012 5:28pm
1. Ask to see the apartment one more time.
2. Take an upper decker, or perhpas hide the poop in a lighting fixture.
3. GTFO
4. ???
5. Prof...no, actually no profit.



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