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New site? Maybe some day.
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You wanted a fucking music conversation so hear ya go.
My list of the Top 5 heavy bands that have put out nothing but top quality releases for the majority of their careers - with the exception of maybe one less-than-brilliant but still solid release.
1. Type O Negative
2. Emperor
3. Death
4. Godflesh
5. Alice In Chains
Runners Up:
Motorhead, Nevermore
Commence disagreement and fist shaking
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1. Metallica
2. Metallica
3. Metallica
4. Guns n' Roses
5. Metallica |
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in B4 Bova flavored Raviolis
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yup. I got in right before. |
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1. Type O Negative - Gay
2. Emperor - Hipster
3. Death - Dead
4. Godflesh - Gay
5. Alice In Chains - Gay And Dead
Oh wait, I forgot that faggot from Type O Negative is dead too. One less shitty band in the world.
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Morbid Angel until 2010...I even liked Heretic quite a bit. Oh well. |
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I don't know who I would really pick. grave digger comes to mind. I don't hate 34.788% Complete, so My Dying Bride is also up there. I personally like every Pain of Salvation album, even the widely panned last four. |
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MANOWAR MANOWAR LIVIN ON THE ROAD |
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I don't know who I would really pick. grave digger comes to mind. I don't hate 34.788% Complete, so My Dying Bride is also up there. I personally like every Pain of Salvation album, even the widely panned last four. |
pain of salvation after remedy lane = pieces of shit |
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1. Meshuggah
2. Skinless
3. Dying Fetus
4. Decapitated
5. Blood Red Throne
Specifically chose bands with more than 2 full length releases, otherwise i would have included
Defeated Sanity
Vektor
The Faceless |
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never heard of that band. NSBM i assume? |
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1. Type O Negative
2. Emperor
3. Death
4. Godflesh
5. Alice In Chains
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Type O - No argument
Emperor - Got pretty boring in the 2000's
Death - Not a fan of anything after Human. It just kind of bores me, I always thought the shit was overrated.
Godflesh - One of my favorite bands, but after he fagged out on that tour I was gonna see them at because his girlfriend dumped him, I lost alot of faith.
Alice in Chains - Great band, but definitely not in my top 5 or even top 20.
I would say off the top of my head:
1. Type O Negative
2. Faith No More
3. Saint Vitus
4. Motorhead
5. Manowar
thats just off the top of my head though, with no thought put into it (in before "like all your other comments" or something) |
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meh, quick list.
Primordial
Bolt Thrower
Motorhead
Absu
Type O Negative
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Horrible bands. Horrible lists. |
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other bands that have done no wrong (totally off the top of my head):
Sabbat
Disgorge (mex.)
Samael
Acid Bath
Sigh
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Aril's List:
1. Alcest
2. Alcest
3. Alcest
4. Alcest
5. Alcest |
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Unexpect
Amaran
Blutengel
Type O
Forgotten Tomb
Your mom's a heavy band. |
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Alcest isnt heavy. Neither is Type O.
"heavy" is subjective, just like "sludge"
Your all arrested. |
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It is subjective, which is why all our opinions are valid. |
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Horrible bands. Horrible lists. |
you know you love primordial, aril aril nemtheanga o'doyle doyle von frankenstein |
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Igor Stravinsky wrote heavy music. |
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Composer =/= band. Dumass |
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Orchestra = real band. Not faux poseur "heavy" music with electric amplification and distortion. BRING BACK HEAVY TO ITS ROOTS.
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Also, stop replying seriously to jest comments. |
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I just wanted to make the point that "heavy" is a broad term. I could give a very broad answer, but every band has done wrong. Nobody is perfect. |
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I really want to be able to put Type O on a list like this, but I just can't deal with the lyrics on Dead Again. It's like the end of Newhart, where they wake up and it's all just a dream. Want to like that record so fucking bad, can't deal. |
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Stravinsky wasn't an orchestra either. Your definition of heavy is different than mine. Genre nomenclature is in itself subjective, which is why discussing it is so easy to start flamewars about. This is a "what do you think" thread, not a "post before aril waves his opinion shlong in your face as gospel."
And I will never stop making trollbreaking replies to your posts <3
Deal with it, you raunchy broad term. |
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i purposefully left it open-ended for maxium discussion abilities. |
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I just can't deal with the lyrics on Dead Again. |
amen? i do like the record, but i feel that. |
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Also, stop replying seriously to jest comments. |
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I just wanted to make the point that "heavy" is a broad term. |
HAVE ANOTHER COFFEE, PAL |
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Stravinsky wrote FOR an orchestra you dimwitted dingbat.
I never wave my gospel schlong in threads. I make asshole statements to broaden discussion. My opinion is no more valid than anyone elses'. Genre nomenclature ia subjective but also has substance when being used in the correct context. |
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It's simply about following instructions, aril. The thread asks for heavy bands, not some composer who wrote heavy stuff. You could have also misinterpreted the thread and listed Symphony X as a heavy band just because of Michael Romeo. |
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I wouldn't be such a dick under this arilliusbm name if you guys weren't so easy to annoy on the internet.
Problem with arilliusbm? Take it up with Jim. |
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Try harder, your trolling is under scrutiny. I do like how you always tell me to not take you so seriously, as if I'm ever actually butthurt about it, haha. |
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I'm gonna have to go with Michael Bolton. Personally, I celebrate the man's entire catalog. Also Thin Lizzy even though the early shit is very heavy at all. |
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Grand Belial's Key
Arghoslent
Old Wainds |
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Grand Belial's Key
Arghoslent
Old Wainds |
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Someone explain to me how a band does no wrong? |
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by doing the exact opposite of what morbid angel did last year. |
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Someone explain to me how a band does no wrong? |
*puts on his Serious Hat*
If I were to guess, that would mean that the person feels that every song that band has ever put out has been at least good, but I'm just guessing here. |
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Well I did say Enslaved but Grutle beat up a crippled guy that got tossed on the stage after Grutle warned the crowd the next person that hit the mic into his face was gonna get beat up. Is that wrong? I can't decide. |
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Also, I'm gonna have to take Ross to task on that Samael claim |
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I'm going to take the realistic road and say every heavy band has done a wrong. Except Nargaroth..he was doing black metal in 1949. Clearly, no wrong there. |
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Samael has verily committed atrocities. |
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burnsy, that just means he's a man of his word.
ross, go to task on that. |
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Just wanna give props to OP for making a positive discussion thread on rttp. Good man.
Unfortunately it's about music, somewhat disconcerting. |
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i thought this was an arrow site? |
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Rusty is correct... and should be working right now. |
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Also, Jim:
"...with the exception of maybe one less-than-brilliant but still solid release."
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Honestly, I'm just stealing Ark's list and swapping out Type O for Anal Cunt. |
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Risky answer. |
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Well now, in that case...
Frontier. |
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I was going to post the same thing last night but I was at band practice and was feeling lazy...
..oh and yeah, this whole list thing is dumb because it's not like anybody is going to agree with each other |
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..oh and yeah, this whole list thing is a great idea because no one is going to agree with each other |
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ya that was pretty much the plan. |
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YOU WILL AGREE WITH EACH OTHER |
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Also, lol @ any list other than
1. Saint to Sinner
2. Saint to Sinner
3. Saint to Sinner
4. CSDO
5. Saint to Sinner |
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Anaal Nathrakh
Darkthrone
Burzum
Nile |
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I can't make a real list because every bands' release after their first or second album sucks. |
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and to DYA about Dead Again's lyrics, I too struggle with those, but the music is so goddamn good that I can overlook it. i love the melodies in "These Three Things" but my mouth won't even allow me to form the words. |
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I second Darkthrone and all of Coc's shit is pretty goddamned good. |
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Some bands should have just quit while they were ahead it would have been easier to create a list. |
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On Peter Steele's 50th bday, I will gladly admit that about 50% of Type O songs bore me. SAME PERCENTAGE AS AGE LOL! |
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I could easily put Darkthrone on that list, I just don't feel like defending Plaguewielder, right now. lulz |
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Darkthrone has released two or three really bland releases. DWYER FACT.
Otherwise, solid band that never trumped Soulside. |
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everyone seems to hate the Ravishing Grimness/Plagueweilder/Hate Them/Sardonic Wrath era. i have yet to hear a Darkthrone album that doesn't rule. including Goatlord. |
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I can't make a real list because every bands' release after their first or second album sucks. |
TR00TH |
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Sardonic Wrath? Seriously dude? I generally agree with you on most things except Alcest, Type O, 1000 Days, and now Sardonic Wrath. I am disappoint. |
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I have never been into darkthrone. I must be a poseur. |
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Only band I can come up with off the dome that fits the bill for me is Pig Destroyer, but people are going to bash Phantom Limb even though I love that record. |
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IMO everything after Aenima was just a carbon copy of Aenima...Tool got lazy if you ask me |
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Sardonic Wrath is excellent, in fact i think it's better than Hate Them, though Hate Them has the best opening track. The only album i consider less than awesome-as-usual is F.O.A.D., but it is completely overtaken by the awesomeness of The Cult is Alive, Dark Thrones and Black Flags, and Circle the Wagons. |
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Darkthrone has released two or three really bland releases. DWYER FACT.
Otherwise, solid band that never trumped A Blaze in the Northern Sky. |
Soulside = overrated |
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A Blaze in the Nord Skyrim is also great.
And Yeti, I can understand your reasoning and opinion.
I just got sick of their sound after a little while, and mostly only listen to their stuff from the stuff from the 90s.
It's amazing how many "eras" Dorkthrone has gone through. |
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I think Immortal has a good running of albums except I haven't listened to anything past sons of northern darkness lol
I know I know black metal is wikked ghey...
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Darkthrone is on my list too. how could i forget. i eat all of it up. |
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And I'm with burnsy on Enslaved. |
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Kvist.
Menhir.
Lykathea Aflame.
Luciferion.
Vinterland.
Theres some of mine, but way more. I have complaints about each one, but it's all good. |
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new dark throne = unmitigated GARBAGE, and not just because of the whole ''old stuff is better'' argument. |
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Dawn should be mentioned. |
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Nightbringer. How could I forget? |
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and come to think of it, aril is right, Type O Negative has definitely done some wrong. Remember their cover of Highway Star? Fuckin' DOG SHIT |
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1- GWAR (gotta be the least likely band for this thread but it's ALL ABOUT ME right now)
2- Nunslaughter
3- Saint Vitus
4- Evoken
5- Cathedral
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I wish I could have included Opeth on this list but i think the Heritage AND Watershed were crap. |
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Only band I can come up with off the dome that fits the bill for me is Pig Destroyer, but people are going to bash Phantom Limb even though I love that record. |
i liked phantom limb, then again i'm not a big grind guy |
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Might as well do a fucking list about it:
1. Enslaved
2. Nightbringer
3. Virus
4. A Forest of Stars
5. Coldworld |
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Only band I can come up with off the dome that fits the bill for me is Pig Destroyer, but people are going to bash Phantom Limb even though I love that record. |
i liked phantom limb, then again i'm not a big grind guy |
I am, and I still liked it. |
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Vintage Fresh / Inverticruz |
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1- GWAR (gotta be the least likely band for this thread but it's ALL ABOUT ME right now) |
Dude. We Kill Everything. |
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I didn't hear Violence Has Arrived for years after it was out 'cause that record was so shit. |
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I think Type O slowly and deeply started to go downhill after October Rust. Then again, I'm not their biggest fan and love getting lectured by everyone at how awesome every album was. |
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slowly, yes, deeply, not really. |
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FGFC820
It is dark electro type shit...but one of my favs |
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Yea, REALLY early Gwar is not my cup of tea at all. |
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I HATE, not just not like but HATE, Catch 33...other than that though, Meshuggah are pretty great |
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I would say everything Wino's done has pretty much ruled except that Shrinebuilder album disappointed me but was still ok |
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Gonna be a great big buttdart and say Deathspell Omega. Love the early stuff right up to present, even if Fas was something of a stumble, it's still better than most other bands' best |
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Also katharsis and moonblood. |
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Gonna be a great big buttdart and say Deathspell Omega. Love the early stuff right up to present, even if Fas was something of a stumble, it's still better than most other bands' best |
Yeah I'd actually swap coldworld out of my list for deathspell. My favorite is chaining the catechon. |
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This thread so makes me think of one time I was goofing around on a drive with a friend and we were coming up with different list scenarios. One that I remember was along these lines:
"If you could only listen to 10 bands for the next ___ years (i.e. five years) what would those 10 bands be?"
I remember picking 10 bands that had long discographies, but I would not get sick of, and would be a mix of different styles. I remember picking:
1. Iron Maiden
2. Judas Priest
3. Exodus
4. Overkill
5. Slayer
6. Gwar
7. Nunslaughter
8. Mayhem
9. Cannibal Corpse
10. Machetazo
There are better bands, but these are bands I can go back to again and again. Cannibal Corpse have a long discography for example, and they are like the fast food of death metal. Mayhem have a variety of different albums. I love early Maiden (up to Seventh son and selected stuff after). Gwar had a rough patch in the middle for like 3 albums, but they have hit it out of the park for five albums in a row. Machetazo is an odd risk, but I love them. |
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And I'm with burnsy on Enslaved. |
me too |
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1. Iron Maiden - Virtual XI?
2. Judas Priest - Juggulator?
3. Exodus - Everything after Pleasures?
4. Overkill - Everything after Horroscope?
5. Slayer - ugh, Diabolus in Musica?
7. Nunslaughter - same album over and over
8. Mayhem - lol @ chimera
9. Cannibal Corpse - Everything afte The Bleeding is mediocre as hell
10. Machetazo - agreed.
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i believe the above list falls under a different category:
"If you could only listen to 10 bands for the next ___ years (i.e. five years) what would those 10 bands be?" |
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i believe the above list falls under a different category:
"If you could only listen to 10 bands for the next ___ years (i.e. five years) what would those 10 bands be?" |
correct.
but for these specifics:
3. Exodus - Everything after Pleasures?
Up to Fabulous and all the new stuff from Temp and after is great
4. Overkill - Everything after Horroscope?
Most things after. A little hit and miss but if you liked overkill at all check out the last one - Ironbound
7. Nunslaughter - same album over and over.
YES. I KNOW. but it's like getting the same heroin over and over
9. Cannibal Corpse - Everything afte The Bleeding is mediocre as hell.
Yeah, that's what I mean about them being the fast food of heavy metal. Although I found KILL to be impressive.
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7. Nunslaughter - same album over and over
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Loled |
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I didn't read the whole post. Also, I was never very impressed by Exodus or Overkill. |
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1.) Ensiferum
2.) Norther
3.) Opeth
4.) Children of Bodom
5.) Immortal |
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I'm assuming the last post was a joke. |
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Unless the poster read thread title as 'top 5 dog shit semi-black metal bands that have never done right' |
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I'm suprised Robing hasn't mentioned Eyehategod. |
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Also Immolation and Integrity (Integrity 2000 doesn't count). |
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i would really like to say bathory, but i can't |
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Octagon is awful.
Immolation is a great band.. |
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I'm assuming the last post was a joke. |
It's one of those "it's funny because it's true" type things |
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I will go ahead and admit to liking Norther, albeit I have not heard anything they did after 2004. |
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Immolation is another one for the list |
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while they haven't released much more then a couple demos and a split, I've seen Scaphism almost 40 times and they have yet to disappoint me! |
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I got so sick of those cheesy spinefarm finnish stratovarious inspired "black metal" bands... even ensiferum, although I do love their first album. Thats about as cheesy I can go.
OH WAIT
BAL SAGOTH |
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basically it really only boils down to Godflesh. there isn't one single second under that moniker that i disapprove of, including Love, Hate (Slugbaiting)and Pure 2. i can't even say that about Type O, because some of the lyrics on Dead Again make me cringe. |
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Every time I hear Bal Sagoth, I think
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Although I found KILL to be impressive.
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you and me both. |
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1- GWAR (gotta be the least likely band for this thread but it's ALL ABOUT ME right now) |
Dude. We Kill Everything. |
I love We Kill Everything.. but then again, I'm an adult and I'm about to eat a grilled bologna and cheese sandwich |
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7. Nunslaughter - same album over and over
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Ummm Motorhead much? |
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I love We Kill Everything as well. Lol |
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There is only one artist that belongs in this thread, and that artist's name is Hoku.
/thread |
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eh, motorhead had some different stuff along that way that was still good. Plus, LOL at comparing nunslaughter to motorhead. |
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some of motorhead's albums don't compare to their best work, but are still better than most other bands' best stuff. |
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Eyehategod
Incantation
Crowbar
Solitude Aeturnus
Carpathian Forest |
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1- GWAR (gotta be the least likely band for this thread but it's ALL ABOUT ME right now) |
Dude. We Kill Everything. |
I love We Kill Everything.. but then again, I'm an adult and I'm about to eat a grilled bologna and cheese sandwich |
cut diagonally into triangles I hope
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If we're allowed to throw out bands with one release i.e. Vinterland, I'm throwing Ved Buens Ende out there. |
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I'm throwing Ved Buens Ende |
Good man... I think. |
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Ved beuns rules but only has 1 full length and a demo.windir impetigo gbk autopsy sodom |
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Yeah I've been on a windir kick for a couple weeks. He did what ensiferum and finntroll wish they could've dreamed to have done.
I thought VBE had two: Written in Waters and Those Who Caress the Pale. No? Still more releases than vinterland haha. |
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LOL @ wearing a Billabong hoodie in a promo picture. |
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Those Who Caress the Pale is a demo; I meant full-lengths but neglected to specify that in my original post... Vinterland has 2 demos if you wanna pick fly shit out of the pepper about it, thus more releases. |
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I don't want to pick fly shit out of the pepper. Just saying there was a demo version and then an EP. Had no idea about vinterland's demo, only the full length. |
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1.BLASPHEMY
2.BLASPHEMY
3.BLASPHEMY
4.BLASPHEMY
5.BLASPHEMY |
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LOL @ wearing a Billabong hoodie in a promo picture. |
LOL @ having the eyesight and knowledge to pick that out. |
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lol @ arguing about vinterland specifics when their full legnth was nearly impossible to find until they repressed it. |
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1.BLASPHEMY
2.BLASPHEMY
3.BLASPHEMY
4.BLASPHEMY
5.BLASPHEMY |
what, that band that sounds like black witchery? eh... |
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I se Motorhead on some lists... MARCH OR DIE SUCKS
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I don't want to pick fly shit out of the pepper.. |
lol never heard this idiom before. awesome. |
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Ha I was quoting bitch_please but yeah I hadn't heard it either. |
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lol @ arguing about vinterland specifics when their full legnth was nearly impossible to find until they repressed it. |
At least someone picked up on the intentional douchebaggery. |
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Intentional Douchebaggery is a must on RTTP or you're all Duck Duck Goosers |
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I even fucking hated that game when I was a child, I can't even believe it's come back from the grave to haunt me and piss me off still... unfuckingreal. |
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I se Motorhead on some lists... MARCH OR DIE SUCKS
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hellraiser is a hell of a tune |
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Intentional Douchebaggery is a must on RTTP or you're all Duck Duck Goosers |
NO MUSIC NO BANDS NO PROMOTION ONLY STUPID TROLLS AND ASSHOLE ELITIST |
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Flashlight tag at night was the best. I also remember having huge, neighborhood-wide games of kick the can when I was like 8 years old. Then we all got nintendos for our birthdays and that was the end of that. :( |
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Kids all playing fleshlight tag these days... |
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