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Killer. I'm stoked for this. |
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this lineup is fucking awesome. |
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sick show! good to see you dudes playing Connor! |
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can't wait to see all of these hipster BM bands. rock on. |
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Will be our last show with Az Kladen. Finding new drummers is raviolis. |
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can't wait to see all of these hipster BM bands. rock on. |
Already debating which shows and deep v-neck to wear! |
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It makes me so terribly long to see the cantankerous Mauve Satans of Morgirion emerging from their morbid palace. They were so terrible and denim when we played with them last month. Total holocaust on smiles. |
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can't wait to see all of these hipster BM bands. rock on. |
I refuse to be included in this statement. There's literally steam flowing from my ears. I'd take a picture, but my camera lens keeps fogging up. |
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I only ride with the Suave Satans. |
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I need to take a hipster BM right now... |
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The world is literally one giant BM. And by BM I mean:
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Rev can you mark this thread as a show so I can link the event? |
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I fucking love the flyer. Awesome job Chris. |
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I fucking love the flyer. Awesome job Chris. |
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Fuck, now I want brownies. Maybe I'll make some and sell 'em at the merch table. |
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HMPH!!!!
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Tomorrow is Thursday. The day after is Friday. |
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I'm getting stiffer by the day as this approaches. |
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Rev can you mark this thread as a show so I can link the event? |
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Tomorrow. No moshing. Only self injurious behavior will be tolerated. |
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Bog should be playing far later in the set... |
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The "..." means he's serious. |
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I wonder if more people will be sent to the hospital during our set again. |
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Bog was the last band added to a show that was 3/4ths booked already, and they were fine with opening. Otherwise, they would be on later. |
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Mauve Satans of Morgirion |
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Bog should be playing far later in the set... |
depends what time they show up I would imagine |
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Yep. Cigars out front tonight. |
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Have a lavish time, gents. |
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Rev can you mark this thread as a show so I can link the event? |
I was about to make a new thread for this because I couldn't find one. Only linking to events is real. |
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Bog sounded ok, they had no stage presence though. the bracers kind of lose their power when the arms they are wrapped around just dangle limply to the side.
Nathruzym was way too quiet, the full stacks were not used to their potential. good riffage. ok vocals. |
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Did Bridezilla play this show? |
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Broadzilla, that girl was a baffoon.
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Ahhh yes. Broadzilla. You guys dress like you're (your) hot. |
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hahaha yeah she was a reject. she was clearly not amused at the types of metal i like. |
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bog always sounds great, their guitars and the drummer's massive kicks are always effective, but the vocals were a little low, and i'm with yeti on the stage show. they've had better nights.
Viskar had me paying attention the entire time, which is difficult. they are an excellent band. they remind me of the more aggressive parts of agalloch. i have a weakness for the black metal influenced post rock style. good epic songwriters, but at the same time, really nothing original and no stand out riffs, which i guess is par for the course with this stuff. still, AMAZING drummer, and the light show adds so much to an already good band's set. you can tell they spend a lot of time on the band and they really believe in what they're doing.
Nathruzym did sound thin. i can't remember if they were a four-piece last time they played ralph's, but they were a whole lot better last time. still, solid great band. i guess they're going on hiatus. don't stop playing.
i'm completely false for leaving before morgirion. i wish i didn't do that right now.
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and, i thought ballhugger jeans were kind of phased out a few years ago, but whatever. i was guilty myself once. |
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I agree with what you said about Viskar in regards to believing what they're doing and being a tight band with interesting lighting. Not to poop in the punchbowl, but they are by no means blackmetal to me and are a sole representation of the direction USBM is moving in. I love me some post rock and black metal, but can't get into it when the two are combined (usually- depends on the band's style). I've accepted what direction "black metal" is going in now and am letting go of being bitter about it. I was entertained by their set somewhat, but cannot call them black metal. Also, not to be a dick, but the bassist looks like he's in Attack!Attack!
If this band was playing shows 6-7 years ago or whatever, they would have been mocked straight-up. But alas, good artists and musicians for what they are: amusing at times, entertaining at others, but not black metal. Sorry to be Mr. Dink, but I'm just expressing my honest opinion.
Then again, it is what it is. Keep doing what you guys are doing; artistic expression has no bounds. |
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right. they take some from it, but they aren't it. |
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do a blackened alloy about it |
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are a sole representation of the direction USBM is moving in. |
"USBM" isn't a catch-all term for a specific style. that is so many bands that are doing so many different things. the only thing you can infer from USBM, is that they're from the US, and probably play metal. |
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Extreme heat sucked the energy right out of this show. Movies playing outside where it was cooler didn't help much either. All the bands were great. I like V.V. a lot... don't know what to call them but it is pleasing to my ears. |
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We had a blast at this show! Thanks for the kind words about our set. Can't wait to be back. |
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yeah unfortunately it was a fucking oven in there. |
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I've accepted what direction "black metal" is going in now and am letting go of being bitter about it. |
denial, anger, acceptance. you know i enjoy grilling you about this. |
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are a sole representation of the direction USBM is moving in. |
"USBM" isn't a catch-all term for a specific style. that is so many bands that are doing so many different things. the only thing you can infer from USBM, is that they're from the US, and probably play metal. |
True dat. Although I'd argue that when it comes to bands of this style (Deafheaven or some WITTR, etc), I'd say the US is paving the way. |
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Thanks for the positive reviews guys. We definitely do put everything we have into this band, and I totally agree that we are not black metal. We kind of started out with more of a black metal agenda, but it just turned into this. Really appreciate the feedback though. |
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i'd like to talk some shop with your drummer, next time. |
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He had to fly out of there after the set last night, but I'm sure he'd be more than willing. |
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More like blackened atmospheric metal. Still really good. keep it up. I hate the term USBM. Makes me think of fat kids who don't exercise wearing corpse paint. Or a bunch of mutt kids who think they're Vikings. |
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I could tell my amp wasn't loud enough even though I had it cranked. Weird because I never had that problem with my half stack. I was also hoping the sound guy was compensating but I guess not. Ah well. |
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"Oh Boy, Sleep! That's where I'm a Viking!" |
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USBM is, was, and will always be subpar to euro BM. That's just how it works |
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Usbm term is meaningless, I refuse to utter t ever again. Nevarrrrrrr |
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USBM = ultra sensitive black male? |
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More like blackened atmospheric metal. |
Bang! Spacerock meets black metal. |
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I play spacemetal whenever I forget my riffs. |
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Only Darkspace is spacemetal. |
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Zircon has their own space ships and intergalactic empire. |
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ITT: Frontier becomes Spacethefinal Frontier |
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United States Black Metal. Its no different than saying German black metal or French black metal. Identifying black metal by country used to be important; Swedish black metal is different than the Norwegian take on it. But I guess you guys are right: there's no sense in labelling black metal by country anymore because it's all watered down shit anyways. RIP Black Metal |
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Zircon has their own space ships and intergalactic empire. |
Armed with the clones of death. And darkness!!! |
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United States Black Metal. Its no different than saying German black metal or French black metal. Identifying black metal by country used to be important; Swedish black metal is different than the Norwegian take on it. But I guess you guys are right: there's no sense in labelling black metal by country anymore because it's all watered down shit anyways. RIP Black Metal |
SHUDDUP AND PLAY. |
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Give me a band room and a bassist and I will. Or gtfo!!1 |
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THIS IS NOW A BBW CENTAUR THREAD
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Fair enough Jim - still never meant a lot to begin with - darkthrone never sounded like or agreed with burzum, peste noire is not blut aus Nord, etc. Every band instantly went in their own direction as soon as that sound was discovered. I guess you could argue that euro bands have always been consistently more awesome. If were talking about BM, I would be perfectly fine if the only records ever released were from nor, swe, fin, fra, and ger, but...i only care about good bands, and I should get back to work |
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For something that's supposedly dead, the plethora of bitching surrounding it never seems to disappear.
Genre discussion is fruitless and too subjective. |
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Obviously individual bands have individual styles. If one is using it as a description and generalization of the country's sound per se, that'd be completely obsolete in this day and age.
I've ALWAYS organized my black metal by countries and years albums came out. I found it quite interesting in knowing what countries bands are from, especially when there's folk elements involved. This lead me to delve deeper into obscure countries for black metal, and more into Asian metal. In basic principal though, any BM fan that listens to early-mid 90s BM and was to choose which country the band would be from (Norway, Sweden, etc), it should be fairly simple to decipher as both were molding their own niche of a sound at the time. Obviously it's not the same any more, and there's so many bands. USBM to me is simply an acronym to describe that the band is from the US, nothing less nothing more. It's changed, and more and more bands are emulating the euro style. It all depends on how one want to organize their catalogue.. To me, countries and years albums came out were pretty important, regardless of how the band sounds. |
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For something that's supposedly dead, the plethora of bitching surrounding it never seems to disappear.
Genre discussion is fruitless and too subjective. |
Thank you captain obvious. Are you new to discussion forums? Thats the point: open discussion and opinions. By your definition, your absence of contribution to the discussion is subjective on your behalf, Mr. Rebecca Black obsessor. |
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Haha, Jim I would like to explore this topic further with you, away from the fruitless subjectivity of others :@ |
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People always pull out the "shut up and play" line, but I've yet to find a way to have band practice on a forum. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the salon. |
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@arilliUSBM:
As I just posted on your facebook, you're taking the USBM label and using it for geographical purposes. That makes sense, I get it.
Before the cross-breeding of styles, location meant something for sound, now it doesn't. So yeah, like the lords of obviousness pointed out already, USBM is good for location use only, not to describe the sound. Hating USBM as an entity is hating AMERICA, not the sounds it produces, lol |
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As far as different sounds, directions... whatevs. Black Metal is black and is metal. A lot of the so-called "transcendental" bands people are always arguing about, though some may play some good music, are not usually black metal. Blackness is a diverse word, but only encompasses elements such as hatred, depression, malevolence, bleakness, and overall negativity. This can also be portrayed via harmony and melody, especially with chromatics, tritones, minor 2nds etc. But if a band does not have this blackness, they're simply not black metal.
Also: this thread is racist! |
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This thread is subjective, and obviously created to tarnish the reputation of rebecca black (the only true USBM). |
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I only like transcendental rebecca black. |
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only balck metal is real. |
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I guess we're all on the same page then. When speaking the acronym USBM for geographic purposes, it should not make people angry.
As using it to describe the country's sound, well, that's quite dumb now because the country is HUGE with millions of people in it, and the number of black metal bands far exceeds that of say, 10-15+ years ago.
The point that I was trying to make is that at one point in time, it was much easier to figure out which country a band was from just by listening to their sound.
Example, if no one knew who Dissection was and heard them for the first time but knew the general difference between Swedish and Norwegian black metal, it should be EASY to figure out they were Swedish. Then again, none of this could really matter to most; I've just always found it an important ideology to have while discussing black metal.. knowing which country the band is from. Only typing too much on a useless topic in a thread for last night's show is real. |
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only balki metal is real. |
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also, apparently Dissection played black metal. lol |
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Don't even make me rant about how Dissection is a melodic death band with black metal tendencies. Swedish style guitar riffage, obv. Subjective labeling is subjective.
Also, Bathory's Octagon is the most black metal album ever made, right?
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Agreed. I've always found location to be good to know because it adds another level to comprehending a band's work: regarding regional politics, culture, natural environment, neighboring influences, etc.
It isn't like that anymore, and any tr00sters (like Mr. Conservative) should relinquish their 1950s mentality and accept that diversity is real and an undeniable construct. |
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In a related note, one could also argue that Dawn's Slaughtersun is a melodic death album and not a melodic black metal album. As with many other albums by many other bands. I also heard that some band called Darkwor is a USBM melodic death metal band. |
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Agreed. I've always found location to be good to know because it adds another level to comprehending a band's work: regarding regional politics, culture, natural environment, neighboring influences, etc.
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Thank you.
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It isn't like that anymore, and any tr00sters (like Mr. Conservative) should relinquish their 1950s mentality and accept that diversity is real and an undeniable construct. |
"Metal" should draw the line somewhere. |
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Darkwor = ambient blackened grinding doom metal |
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Darkwor = Galder's side project. |
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"When upon a winter's moon Super Mario becomes Wilford Brimley" was Galder's best Darkwor album.
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Oh look what I've missed! |
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only balki metal is real. |
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Balki metal? Don't be ridiculous! |
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I always thought "Darkwor" was a subtle metaphor for a racial war against black people. This band is racist. Where is the ANTIFA troll when you need them. |
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I'm totally discriminatory against the sub- 40#s on the periodic table of elements. |
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"When upon a winter's moon Super Mario becomes Wilford Brimley" was Galder's best Darkwor album.
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XD |
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"When upon a winter's moon Super Mario becomes Wilford Brimley" was Galder's best Darkwor album.
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oh wow, mind blown |
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Darkwor = ambient blackened grinding doom metal |
= a mess |
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HMPH!!!!
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This must of been nice to see and good set last night. |
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Not that it matters, but I'm honestly curious what you guys would classify us (vattnet) as? I usually say blackened post doom or something like that, but I really have no idea. |
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I'm going to use this all the time. |
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me and your buddy Matt D. were also discussing vattnet viskar's genre classification recently. sounds like black metal to me |
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What's Matt Damon have to do with this. |
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Out of respect, I don't give out people's last names on a public message board. Nicholas knows who I'm talking about. |
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Not that it matters, but I'm honestly curious what you guys would classify us (vattnet) as? I usually say blackened post doom or something like that, but I really have no idea. |
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Please stop metal? I like that. |
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Only Scaphism plays true Vinnish "please stop" metal, other bands ask first. |
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Also, not to be a dick, but the bassist looks like he's in Attack!Attack! |
Sorry bro - I'll get my hair cut just for you next time. <3 |
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This thread got really fucking G-A-Y.
TIME TO BUMP ANOTHER EQUALLY FAGGY THREAD. |
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So you agree that black metal is gay now? Nice. |
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We kind of started out with more of a black metal agenda, but it just turned into this. |
Same with Oneiric Realm. I usually write from the lens of black metal but letting the music morph into what it will is what gives the tunes a sense of genuineness in my opinion. |
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That's a good way to go about it. |
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Yes, black metal is the South End of metal. |
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We kind of started out with more of a black metal agenda, but it just turned into this. |
Same with Oneiric Realm. I usually write from the lens of black metal but letting the music morph into what it will is what gives the tunes a sense of genuineness in my opinion. |
Just do what's natural. I hear that. A lot of my shit is turning into depressing doom metal. |
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I listen to female-fronted russian pop when I'm depressed, which really fucks up the composing process. |
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Only Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Penis is real. |
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I always thought "Darkwor" was a subtle metaphor for a racial war against black people. This band is racist. Where is the ANTIFA troll when you need them. |
How about Light Hug? That doesn't offend anyone. OK, it's settled then. |
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Its great to see so many black metal bands. Back when we invented black metal while watching the 2009 Star Trek reboot we were not sure it would catch on. Maybe I can use my connections with terrorizer to hook you guys up. |
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