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returntothepit >> discuss >> IWRESTLEDABEARONCE Announces 'Musical Shift' To Black Metal by Alx_Casket on May 17,2011 10:41pm
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toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at May 17,2011 10:41pm
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermo...aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=158257

Known for its relentless touring and one-of-a-kind, fearless live show, IWRESTLEDABEARONCE — the Shreveport, Louisiana quintet now transplanted to Los Angeles, California — has announced a change in musical direction. The group's foray into black metal is exemplified by its newly designed logo and band photos.

"We were sick of getting lumped in with 'scene' and 'whatever-core' bands, so we decided to embrace our roots and just go straight black metal on the new album," says guitarist Steven Bradley. "I'd say 90 percent of the new record is straight-up black metal, so we had to change our image to match... Because, of course, that's just as important, if not more so, than the music."









toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at May 17,2011 10:44pm edited May 17,2011 10:46pm
troll content? you decide.

In any case, this is good news for hipster black metal-- They're not the target anymore.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 17,2011 10:45pm
That's it. I'm done.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at May 17,2011 10:48pm
Anyone else feeling up for a rousing game of duck duck goose right about now?



toggletoggle post by xmikex at May 17,2011 10:49pm
Tits or GTFO.



toggletoggle post by AMOROK666 at May 17,2011 10:50pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
That's it. I'm done.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at May 17,2011 10:52pm edited May 17,2011 10:58pm
True black metal fans don't realize that this is exactly what the genre needs. More humor, more hate.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 17,2011 10:54pm



toggletoggle post by Randy_Marsh at May 17,2011 10:56pm
more like i wrestled a poser once



toggletoggle post by arkquimanthorn at May 17,2011 10:58pm
wouldn't surprise me if they listened to black metal. also, whooo giiivess a fuuuuuuckkk



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at May 17,2011 10:59pm
AIDS has a soundtrack



toggletoggle post by Slag at May 17,2011 11:00pm
Your genre was/is/has been a joke for years. Get over it. Who gives a fuck. Listen to music, care less.



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at May 17,2011 11:00pm
Wat



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 17,2011 11:03pm edited May 17,2011 11:04pm
nothing wrong with standing by what you believe in. and I hate to see bands like this make a mockery of the genre, regardless of what the music sounds like. black metal is the only genre of music that I had held a conservative value on, but alas, that has now disappeared within the past 3 or so years.

eat it up, USBM. once a joke, always a joke.



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at May 17,2011 11:06pm
If I started a true BM band that burned down churches would that make you feel better? I feel all BM kids are pretty much posers.



toggletoggle post by arkquimanthorn at May 17,2011 11:08pm
some random kids from california put on some corpsepaint, jim swears off metal music, for real this time.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at May 17,2011 11:09pm
jim will quit rttp at least twice in this thread alone, by the end of the month

only caring and then walking away saying you don't care is trve



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at May 17,2011 11:10pm
j/k bro <3



toggletoggle post by Randy_Marsh at May 17,2011 11:10pm edited May 17,2011 11:12pm
thats why i like bands, albums and songs, not specifically genres of music. bands like these dont have any musical inspirations except for genres of music.



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at May 17,2011 11:12pm
Correction: All BM kids ARE poseurs.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 17,2011 11:13pm edited May 17,2011 11:16pm
no. what would make me feel better is if people understood the aesthetic and raw emotion that goes into good black metal. arguably, it has been dead for years, but there are certain bands that capture the proper feel in which it should encompass. Sadly, it is a lost art, albeit, still a legit genre of music. Horrible analogy, but consider old school hip hop compared to today's hiphop. there's no fucking difference between what happened to black metal and what happened to hip hop. the underground still thrives in both genres, but everything is generally watered down garbage with people that just don't get it. I still enjoy black metal occasionally and spin a lot of the classics, but I don't get boners over it anymore like I used to.
I'd argue that 85% of black metal sucks.. but when speaking in USBM terms, that number jumps up to 99%.

i've already said my 2 cents 1,000,000 times on this board, and some of you can take it at face value or just plain laugh at it. frankly I don't care anymore; most metal is LOL worthy now. give me metal from the NWOBM up until the late 90s and we'll call it even.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at May 17,2011 11:20pm
I see your analogy, but even the underground/purists must progress in order to stay contemporary. In terms of hip hop, if Kurtis Blow tried playing a show in present day, he would be laughed off stage.

As for USBM vs. european bm, there are a good deal of decent bands. I wouldn't say it's 99%, but it usually does suck more than a given bm band from across the pond. You can blame that on the internet as being the primary source of inspiration for nowadays bands, or blame something else. It doesn't really matter because bands that suck will either die out or get lumped into pay-to-play shows and die a slower painful death. Good music can reach more ears than ever, given our current electronic social mechanisms. The effect is good and bad, but the fact is that it perpetuates in people's mindshares more than if it never reached their ears in the first place, which is what keeps the underground alive in the first place, right? I stand by file sharing 100%.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 17,2011 11:24pm edited May 17,2011 11:25pm
Answer me this, Nietzsche, what is 'contemporary' in black metal? Cross-genre ing styles? Or being pure to the roots? Does it even matter with what is considered 'contemporary' ?

and lol @ making this into a conversation about file sharing. I've been file sharing since Napster and have never stopped. But I've ALWAYS preferred physical copies to electronic copies. There's no question on what is the better one.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at May 17,2011 11:29pm
Contemporary refers to stuff that's coming out now that is lumped into the black metal category. The word refers to the current time period, nothing more.

And I wasn't making this into a file sharing conversation, just saying that file sharing and the internet have been invaluable tools in getting music into the hands of people way beyond the normal "hard copy" scope of things. Quality-wise, I agree that hard copy is better (obvi).



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 17,2011 11:31pm
I would argue that black metal ran into a brick wall in the 90s and shattered into a bunch of little pieces. Since then, kids have been picking up the pieces and pasting them with other pieces of shattered genres. What we have now are cross-genre bands which deem themselves original, and in some cases they are. But from an artistic perspective, black metal in and of itself can no longer progress as a genre. You either are influenced by the black metal sound and aesthetic, or you are straight up worshiping the bands/gods of old.

Music has been dead for years. Wake me when a new genre arises - something that is fresh and does not require rehashing and pasting of other genres. (that's not to say I don't enjoy some of those bands that do)



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 17,2011 11:36pm
Only being a pessimist is real.



toggletoggle post by Randy_Marsh at May 17,2011 11:36pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
But from an artistic perspective, black metal in and of itself can no longer progress as a genre. You either are influenced by the black metal sound and aesthetic, or you are straight up worshiping the bands/gods of old.



i enjoy the aesthetic of black metal quite a bit and i enjoy many older bands. i see nothing wrong with this.

what i was saying before about the genre of music is that I think it is stupid to want to play a certain style of music just for the sake of playing that style of music.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at May 17,2011 11:38pm
Ok, I will let you know when a new genre arises that doesn't infer anything from other genres. LOL

And your argument is acknowledged by other musical critics, many of which have described the progression of the black metal sound as broken into 1st wave, 2nd wave, etc. In the end, genre talk is a fruitless battle because a lot of the bands out there aren't genre defining. That is, to categorize them, you will get a different answer depending on who you ask, and possibly a mash-up of genre labels. Like the "blackened ___ ___ ___ death ____ ___ metal" bands.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at May 17,2011 11:38pm
@mike: tits or gtfo



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 17,2011 11:39pm
I might add that I HATE when bands change their sound and/or image after they've already established what they are.

EXAMPLE: Abigail Williams

Fuck that band. I saw them not even 5 years ago and they were shitty deathcore with some broad on keyboards. Now they're black metal? Fuck you. Fuck all of you.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at May 17,2011 11:41pm edited May 17,2011 11:44pm
Ulver. Mundanus Imperium. <-examples of the opposite effect still being quite good.

I never got into abigail williams because I remember seeing them at some palladium fest and they were shitty, then I heard they became black metal and I checked them out again. Still wasn't feeling it, but I wouldn't generalize based on that band. Not everyone in black metal bands you like started off playing black metal.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 17,2011 11:47pm
Alx_Casket said[orig][quote]
Ok, I will let you know when a new genre arises that doesn't infer anything from other genres. LOL


As dumb as it sounds, I stand by that statement. Granted, art is always borrowing and progressing from earlier styles and genres. Any person who has studied the history and development of Art and/or Classical music would know this.

But, looking at the big picture, what is unique to me are the paintbrushes (musical instruments) we are given. There are hundreds of them. Needs moar black metal without distorted guitar or rock drums, but with 100% other instruments.

Alx_Casket said[orig][quote]
And your argument is acknowledged by other musical critics, many of which have described the progression of the black metal sound as broken into 1st wave, 2nd wave, etc. In the end, genre talk is a fruitless battle because a lot of the bands out there aren't genre defining. That is, to categorize them, you will get a different answer depending on who you ask, and possibly a mash-up of genre labels. Like the "blackened ___ ___ ___ death ____ ___ metal" bands.


Agreed. The bands that had established black metal for what it WAS, deserve the credit by being labelled into a certain niche. Today, however, genres are nothing but a joke because of the meshing.



toggletoggle post by MillenialKingdom  at May 17,2011 11:47pm
This has to be a joke. My friend Gregg is going to kill people.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 17,2011 11:51pm
Alx_Casket said[orig][quote]
Ulver. Mundanus Imperium. <-examples of the opposite effect still being quite good.

I never got into abigail williams because I remember seeing them at some palladium fest and they were shitty, then I heard they became black metal and I checked them out again. Still wasn't feeling it, but I wouldn't generalize based on that band. Not everyone in black metal bands you like started off playing black metal.


Agreed, although there's a big difference in going from something respectable, and going into something even more respectable in its own right.

I didn't start off playing black metal. I don't expect anyone else to, either.



toggletoggle post by Pires at May 17,2011 11:53pm
I just hope those pics are photoshopped.



toggletoggle post by BlackoutRick at May 17,2011 11:54pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]


I just literally fell off my bed laughing.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 17,2011 11:54pm
That being said, i've got to head to bed. no more responses from me tonight. I hope there some thought-provoking posts come morning, because this board lacks balls now and is all nonsensical bullshit. Just look at MillenialKingdom. Dude's the biggest troll ever. I'm purely convinced he doesn't exist and is merely RichHorror laughing behind a computer screen, naked and drinking beer.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at May 17,2011 11:55pm edited May 17,2011 11:56pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]

I didn't start off playing black metal. I don't expect anyone else to, either.


And if Abigail Williams or IWABO just so happened to actually make good black metal, would you give it a chance, or would you judge it before listening like so many other closed minded people out there, based on what they've played in the past?

That's the crux of what I'm positing. Like if everyone who hated your 8-bit stuff heard you decided to get into some black metal band and said "fuck that guy, it'll be a bunch of beeps and whipperclipper sounds."

Aye, bedtime for me as well. make some room for me in there.



toggletoggle post by narkybark   at May 18,2011 12:01am
Call me amused, but I really want to hear what this re-imagined mess is going to sound like. There won't be anything BM about it, it'll be just image.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 18,2011 12:01am
no. i don't give much black metal a chance. like deafheaven for example. decent music with too much reverb, but i can't take it seriously. it's nothing but a joke to a genre in which I used to hold dearly.
and haters gonna hate. ive been making computer music far longer than ive been playing guitar, and could give a rats ass if some black metal fag called me a poser for it.
there's nothing to be insecure about with music, and most BM fans are insecure little pussies who have no life. at least, they used to be. who knows, It's all different now.



toggletoggle post by Randy_Marsh at May 18,2011 12:01am
Alx_Casket said[orig][quote]
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]

I didn't start off playing black metal. I don't expect anyone else to, either.


And if Abigail Williams or IWABO just so happened to actually make good black metal, would you give it a chance, or would you judge it before listening like so many other closed minded people out there, based on what they've played in the past?

That's the crux of what I'm positing. Like if everyone who hated your 8-bit stuff heard you decided to get into some black metal band and said "fuck that guy, it'll be a bunch of beeps and whipperclipper sounds."

Aye, bedtime for me as well. make some room for me in there.


i think everyone gets what your saying alex, but IWABO will always be and is just straight faggot shit....I mean there's no way in hell I could ever get past the name alone and aside from that the music is actually shit.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 18,2011 12:03am
and so be it, if they play "good" black metal, then more power to them.



toggletoggle post by MillenialKingdom  at May 18,2011 12:27am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
That being said, i've got to head to bed. no more responses from me tonight. I hope there some thought-provoking posts come morning, because this board lacks balls now and is all nonsensical bullshit. Just look at MillenialKingdom. Dude's the biggest troll ever. I'm purely convinced he doesn't exist and is merely RichHorror laughing behind a computer screen, naked and drinking beer.



Why you dragging me into your drama?



toggletoggle post by EL OH EL at May 18,2011 12:28am
at DIS thrud.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 18,2011 12:33am edited May 18,2011 12:36am
Being a pessimist asshole about a newly formed poser black metal band and voicing my opinion on the matter is "drama" ? Lest we forget that whenever you defend yourself and your religious beliefs, you are invoking drama upon yourself - more than anyone else that posts here. I'd think it's time you rethink what drama is, or at least reconsider the reasons on why you're an active poster on this site. I speak in realistic terms, and try to retain a voice of reason at times.



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at May 18,2011 12:35am
Someone should beat them up. Or arson. Arson would be apropos.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at May 18,2011 12:37am
Fuck The God In Heaven On The Inverted Cross Of Death



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at May 18,2011 1:32am
Yuh. Someone PLEASE beat them up. "so we had to change our image to match... Because, of course, that's just as important, if not more so, than the music."



toggletoggle post by AMOROK666 at May 18,2011 1:47am edited May 18,2011 1:50am
I refuse to read this whole thread. Iwrestledabearonce is now bm. It's completely fucking ridiculous. If celine dion started a death metal band, or if john stamos started a thrash metal band, it would equally bullshit to me. I will continue to pretend this doesn't exist just like I pretend dimmu borgir doesn't exist.



toggletoggle post by AMOROK666 at May 18,2011 1:48am
Also.^drunk^



toggletoggle post by poopshit at May 18,2011 3:38am
i guess you guys didn't read all of the link then. right after the paragraph about turning BM, they then go and talk about their new album and how it's very similar to the last one etc.

not like they won't still suck old hobo's ballbags or anything....



toggletoggle post by spaldino at May 18,2011 5:24am
these guys are totally trying to troll. too bad Cephalic Carnage did it before them... and before that Impaled Northern Moonforest... way to be like... 6+ years late to the party, faggots.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at May 18,2011 6:44am
poopshit said[orig][quote]
i guess you guys didn't read all of the link then. right after the paragraph about turning BM, they then go and talk about their new album and how it's very similar to the last one etc.

not like they won't still suck old hobo's ballbags or anything....


YOU'RE RIGHT!! I DIDN'T read the whole story, i read just the blurb that was quoted in the original post... and that was enough for me. Why would i spend the time clicking a link that discusses Iwrestled...'s style change? Fuck this band.



toggletoggle post by blue  at May 18,2011 8:21am
I just started liking this band A LOT more.



toggletoggle post by spaldino at May 18,2011 8:34am
they are fucking awful. they get publicity because they have some cumdumpster for a vocalist. this is a total troll and they will remain to be fucking awful. they arent brutal or good. please cast them into the sun.



toggletoggle post by eddnli at May 18,2011 8:48am
Black metallers need to realize they're not special and not a part of anything "greater." I accuse the thousands of nameless faces that felt as if they were a part of some movement or brotherhood. Guess what? You weren’t. You only felt that way because of the obscurity. “Your” genera was whored from the beginning. FACT! There is no difference between what’s going on now, than from its conception.

At least the originals were innovative. This band won’t be.


black metallers are worse than punks for fucks sake. you people don't own anything



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 18,2011 8:55am
There's no difference between 1st wave BM and today's BM? Are you on crack?



toggletoggle post by aril‘s personal fluffer at May 18,2011 8:56am
this is hilarious



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 18,2011 8:56am
That's like saying 1950s rock is the same as 1970s rock. Does not compute.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at May 18,2011 8:59am
it's not the same sonically, but the elitism needs to go.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 18,2011 9:00am
Elitism died around 2005.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at May 18,2011 9:04am
aril, can you make a new thread with a visual timeline of black metal? I'd be very interested to see this.



toggletoggle post by spaldino at May 18,2011 9:05am
BLACK METAL DIED IN THE 80'S!



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 18,2011 9:06am
That would be full of lulz.



toggletoggle post by eddnli at May 18,2011 9:07am
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]
it's not the same sonically, but the elitism needs to go.


Its not really the elitism thats annoying, its the pure unholy fucking sense of entitlement that comes with it.



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at May 18,2011 9:09am
Regardless of if the trend-hop is real or troll, all members of this band should be beaten to unconsciousness or death.



toggletoggle post by eddnli at May 18,2011 9:11am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
There's no difference between 1st wave BM and today's BM? Are you on crack?


never been to the money cult of mayhem?

(i like deathcrush as much as the next guy)



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 18,2011 9:14am
Les Légions Noires or gtfo.



toggletoggle post by pam   at May 18,2011 9:16am
Slag said[orig][quote]
Your genre was/is/has been a joke for years. Get over it. Who gives a fuck. Listen to music, care less.


this.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at May 18,2011 9:22am
I like the cut of Slag's jib.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 18,2011 9:22am
if anything, i agree but am being an opinionated douche about it because the direction metal is going in angers me. never going to let it go, as pessimism is where it's at when it comes to a watered down shit genre of music.



toggletoggle post by Pires at May 18,2011 9:25am
"It's still real to me damnit!"



toggletoggle post by blue  at May 18,2011 9:27am
I'm gonna go listen to Morbid Tales & Blood Fire Death and think about how much everything after suuuucks



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at May 18,2011 9:27am
There will be real stuff so long as people who care about it still make it. The garbage will pass and new garbage will be born. Put yourself outside it.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 18,2011 9:27am
be a crotchety old man / whiney bitch about it or gtfo niggas.
If someone really likes metal, they should care about conserving it and preserving its values. I know most will disagree with this, but oh well.



toggletoggle post by pam   at May 18,2011 9:29am
But if there weren't curmudgeonly men like you to piss off, would this band even exist?

Therefor you are destroying black metal, Aril...nice fucking job.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 18,2011 9:32am
I do. Never heard what this band sounds like nor do I care. I listen to what I like, ands it's usually the classics. That being said, nothings going to stop me from caring about how metal is dying. I've been LOLing about black metal for years.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 18,2011 9:40am
Only typing too much about something that doesn't really matter is real.



toggletoggle post by burnsy at May 18,2011 9:49am
Iwrestledabbathonce



toggletoggle post by aril‘s personal fluffer at May 18,2011 10:11am
theres a difference between being an elitist and being annoyed that a metalcore band goes from a joke of a genre(metalcore) to a not-so-much of a joke of a genre(black metal).



toggletoggle post by eddnlie at May 18,2011 10:14am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
I do. Never heard what this band sounds like nor do I care. I listen to what I like, ands it's usually the classics. That being said, nothings going to stop me from caring about how metal is dying. I've been LOLing about black metal for years.


"If someone really likes metal, they should care about conserving it and preserving its values."




toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 18,2011 10:17am
*slowly walks away from thread*
my trolljob is done here. carry on.



toggletoggle post by eddnlie at May 18,2011 10:17am
aril‘s%20personal%20fluffer said[orig][quote]
theres a difference between being an elitist and being annoyed that a metalcore band goes from a joke of a genre(metalcore) to a not-so-much of a joke of a genre(black metal).


haha i forgot this thread was about that. I just don't like the black metal elitist subculture so i'm being a dick. I think this is gay as much as aril.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 18,2011 10:20am
totally gay. after all, real black metal is about sodomy.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at May 18,2011 10:21am
Also, metalcore was briefly a respectable genre...like 20 years ago.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at May 18,2011 10:21am
Cool predicted loop closing bro.

iwrestledabarothnce



toggletoggle post by ark at May 18,2011 10:22am
jim, you're too much. metal has been mocked from the 60's and metalheads in the 80's were complaining about the "direction it's going in" and guess what, there are still amazing bands making great albums. it's following the natural evolution of music. look at great blues musicians, their music was taken and sold off as something else, and 100 years later, there are still great blues musicians making great recordings.

one rule of art is the more patrons it has, the less value it has. most metal is recycled garbage, it's not immune to art evolution. look at any genre of music and it's all saturated with bullshit because the cost of entry into music is so goddamn low these days.

specifically to black metal, i'm with slag and eddie. a long time ago in a galaxy far far away it was created, but it still followed law of musical evolution and stole from someone else. the sound is defining and immortal but the ideas will morph and change.

jim i totally agree if someone likes metal they should conserve it. i do that. you can't control what other people do with it and it's a waste of life to care about it.

well, this band wins troll of the month award for this publicity stunt. i will continue to listen to good bands and not give a fuck!



toggletoggle post by eddnlie at May 18,2011 10:23am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
totally gay. after all, real black metal is about sodomy.


black metal music = freedom
black metal subculture = entitlement



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 18,2011 10:24am
Any form of elitism is dumb. Some of my typings may br borderline elitism, and for that I apologize.
Again, trying to be the voice of reason that everyone likes to hate.



toggletoggle post by ark at May 18,2011 10:26am
you're 100% right about how hip hop's evolution parallels black metal's evolution. it's almost too similar.



toggletoggle post by ark at May 18,2011 10:28am
nah jim it's a good discussion even though it's a total repost.

elitism is only wrong when you don't think you are "different" but instead think you are "better".



toggletoggle post by The_Rooster  at May 18,2011 10:30am
Pretty sure this is an attempt at humor.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 18,2011 10:32am
I agree with what you said, but must add that there are simply too many bands now. Yes, filter em out, and yes there are still amazing bands. But it's not like it was in the 80s. Or 90s for that matter. Alx Casket nailed it earlier when he mentioned file sharing. Both good and bad.
I know for a fact that most modern BM fans wouldn't have discovered it it werent for downloading.



toggletoggle post by narkybark   at May 18,2011 10:32am



toggletoggle post by ark at May 18,2011 10:32am
also an attempt at pissing off elitists, pretty sure they succeeded.



toggletoggle post by eddnlie at May 18,2011 10:32am
ark said[orig][quote]
nah jim it's a good discussion even though it's a total repost.

elitism is only wrong when you don't think you are "different" but instead think you are "better".


is this the dark legions or rttp?




toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 18,2011 10:34am
You guys can label me as an elitist if you want. Frankly, I don't give a fuck. I'm a realist and a metalhead.



toggletoggle post by eddnlie at May 18,2011 10:36am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
I agree with what you said, but must add that there are simply too many bands now. Yes, filter em out, and yes there are still amazing bands. But it's not like it was in the 80s. Or 90s for that matter. Alx Casket nailed it earlier when he mentioned file sharing. Both good and bad.
I know for a fact that most modern BM fans wouldn't have discovered it it werent for downloading.


meh, if they weren't downloading they'd be cassette trading. thing with posers is that they aren't able to tell whats good or not outside classics.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at May 18,2011 10:36am
@ark: How is elitism ever right? In Lady Gaga's "Born This Way," the message she's positing is that everyone is different, and that makes us all the same.



toggletoggle post by eddnlie at May 18,2011 10:36am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
You guys can label me as an elitist if you want. Frankly, I don't give a fuck. I'm a realist and a metalhead.


nobody has called you anything.



toggletoggle post by OHMYGOD at May 18,2011 10:37am
OTHER PEOPLE LIKE BLACK METAL'S SOUND HOLY SHIT. NOT ALLOWED. You guys are still all the lame ass dudes that didn't get laid in high school. Keep playing Ralph's and O'Briens.



toggletoggle post by eddnlie at May 18,2011 10:39am
OHMYGOD said[orig][quote]
OTHER PEOPLE LIKE BLACK METAL'S SOUND HOLY SHIT. NOT ALLOWED. You guys are still all the lame ass dudes that didn't get laid in high school. Keep playing Ralph's and O'Briens.


well hot topic pussy wasn't invented yet



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 18,2011 10:44am
eddnlie120852 said
nobody has called you anything.

I've been called an elitist many times on this board. I'm no better anyone else on this board. There were a few of us back in the day that would say anyone that got into BM post 2000 is a poser faggot but it's not like that anymore.
I generally accept all "newer" black metal heads with open arms and try to steer them in the right direction. Hence, me voicing and opinion all too often. Granted I'm still young and haven't been listening to metal forever, but I've been around the block with black metal. As far as file sharing goes, i used to be an admin for a direct connect black metal hub. I'm not against it, but it has it's drawbacks.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at May 18,2011 10:45am
eddnli said[orig][quote]
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]
it's not the same sonically, but the elitism needs to go.


Its not really the elitism thats annoying, its the pure unholy fucking sense of entitlement that comes with it.


Yeah, that's definitely part of elitism. thanks though *smooch*



toggletoggle post by eddnlie at May 18,2011 10:46am
i disagree.



toggletoggle post by ark at May 18,2011 10:48am
oh please. we're all elitist in some way when we hate on bad music. i hate bad music, including les legions noires. say one thing on the internet and get interpreted 1000 ways.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at May 18,2011 10:51am
oh i KNOW i am. When i said it had to go, i meant the type of elitism that looks down on people who got into the music later than them.. As opposed to me looking down WAAF-CORE listeners... which is reasonable elitism. I realize the distinction isn't important, i'm just bored and want to contribute.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at May 18,2011 10:57am
As for looking down on WAAFers, I think the difference comes down to exposure, just like pre-file sharing and music globalization days when a given population only knew of regional pop songs. The radio listeners go with the less committed method of music listening, which involves advertising agencies refining a demographic, and letting radio stations make the decisions of what they are allowed to listen to.



toggletoggle post by Eddie  at May 18,2011 11:13am
Alx_Casket said[orig][quote]
As for looking down on WAAFers, I think the difference comes down to exposure, just like pre-file sharing and music globalization days when a given population only knew of regional pop songs. The radio listeners go with the less committed method of music listening, which involves advertising agencies refining a demographic, and letting radio stations make the decisions of what they are allowed to listen to.


No. lack of exposure doesn't give anyone an excuse to eat shit. These people just become led zeppelin fans, and fans of other good but way over played stuff.



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at May 18,2011 11:24am
Cool bath-house of a thread, guys. So... who wants to suck my cock?



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at May 18,2011 11:31am
everyone



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at May 18,2011 11:46am
goatcatalyst said[orig][quote]
Cool bath-house of a thread, guys. So... who wants to suck my cock?


*tentatively raises hand...*



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at May 18,2011 11:47am
Oh, Jimbo!



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 18,2011 11:59am
I'll get the reach around.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at May 18,2011 12:06pm
goatcatalyst said[orig][quote]
Oh, Jimbo!


careful, if you get too excited, bitches will lose interest. (In this instance, i would be "bitches".)



toggletoggle post by spaldino at May 18,2011 12:07pm
I AM GAY AND NAKED... COME LICK UNDERNEATH MY FAT ROLLS!



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at May 18,2011 12:10pm
that sounds unpleasant. homo.



toggletoggle post by MillenialKingdom  at May 18,2011 12:11pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Being a pessimist asshole about a newly formed poser black metal band and voicing my opinion on the matter is "drama" ? Lest we forget that whenever you defend yourself and your religious beliefs, you are invoking drama upon yourself - more than anyone else that posts here. I'd think it's time you rethink what drama is, or at least reconsider the reasons on why you're an active poster on this site. I speak in realistic terms, and try to retain a voice of reason at times.



You singled ME out so no, I'm not invoking drama on myself. I hardly ever talk about anything religious on this board.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 18,2011 12:12pm
Only in defense.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at May 18,2011 12:13pm
Drama.

MillenialKingdom said[orig][quote]
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Being a pessimist asshole about a newly formed poser black metal band and voicing my opinion on the matter is "drama" ? Lest we forget that whenever you defend yourself and your religious beliefs, you are invoking drama upon yourself - more than anyone else that posts here. I'd think it's time you rethink what drama is, or at least reconsider the reasons on why you're an active poster on this site. I speak in realistic terms, and try to retain a voice of reason at times.



You singled ME out so no, I'm not invoking drama on myself. I hardly ever talk about anything religious on this board.



also, "hardly ever" is still TOO MUCH.



toggletoggle post by spaldino at May 18,2011 12:49pm
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]
that sounds unpleasant. homo.


their clean, your such a moran!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at May 18,2011 1:00pm
nds moar elites eliting



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 18,2011 1:03pm
Join in on the fun.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at May 18,2011 1:10pm
ITT: people still apparently not getting why we were so pissed off about Liturgy, etc.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at May 18,2011 1:12pm
Because Liturgy was srs?



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at May 18,2011 1:15pm edited May 18,2011 1:17pm
because they were instrumental in opening up vast new white-belted vistas of gullible listeners, to whom all music and image and no content is preferable, and now this looks like a good move to these trend-hopping dorks. they're probably right; it'll probably be huge.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 18,2011 1:18pm
Liturgy is to "blackmetal" as Twilight is to real vampire stories.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at May 18,2011 1:21pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Liturgy is to "blackmetal" as Twilight is to real vampire stories.


TEAM HUNTER REPRESENT

HE'S SO DREAMY



toggletoggle post by xmikex at May 18,2011 1:21pm
So Liturgy = ?



toggletoggle post by Fist at May 18,2011 2:03pm
Im pretty sure this article is a complete joke, intentionally trying to piss people off.



toggletoggle post by spaldino at May 18,2011 2:05pm
xmikex said[orig][quote]
So Liturgy = ?


Liturgy =

bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by thirdknuckle  at May 18,2011 2:46pm
Alx_Casket said[orig][quote]
we had to change our image to match... Because, of course, that's just as important, if not more so, than the music."


bogus press release is bogus



toggletoggle post by hipsterholocaust at May 18,2011 2:57pm
Looks like the Darkwor singer.

arilliusbm said[orig][quote]



toggletoggle post by The_Rooster  at May 18,2011 2:59pm
The_Rooster said[orig][quote]
Pretty sure this is an attempt at humor.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at May 18,2011 3:23pm
spaldino said[orig][quote]
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]
that sounds unpleasant. homo.


their clean, your such a moran!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111


Who's they? Did you mean to say they're clean? As in your fat rolls?



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at May 18,2011 3:32pm
Duck duck goose, LET'S FUCKING GO



toggletoggle post by anonymous at May 18,2011 3:38pm
aril like always, is dead wrong. you are a whiney little bitch who needs to get a life. you probably know next to nothing about black metal as it is. who fucking cares how long someone has been listening to it. Who fucking cares if the band doesnt look 'black metal' enough. you are an idiot and it amazes me no one calls you out, fucking bitch



toggletoggle post by ark at May 18,2011 3:41pm
lol



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at May 18,2011 3:46pm



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at May 18,2011 4:10pm
also, that'll show me to read these threads when I'm too busy doing moderately useful things to actually read the article; lame trollband is lametroll.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at May 18,2011 11:11pm
So you all don't think they'll deliver a black metal album? I actually hope it isn't a joke, and they do.



toggletoggle post by Garth Algar at May 19,2011 1:07am
anonymous said[orig][quote]
aril like always, is dead wrong. you are a whiney little bitch who needs to get a life. you probably know next to nothing about black metal as it is. who fucking cares how long someone has been listening to it. Who fucking cares if the band doesnt look 'black metal' enough. you are an idiot and it amazes me no one calls you out, fucking bitch


Gayest thing ever written? Haven't heard the new Iwrestledabearonece yet but I still say yes.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at May 20,2011 8:49am
@arilliusbm: found you a new genre of music, how do you like it?


bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by Spaldino at May 20,2011 9:20am
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]
spaldino said[orig][quote]
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]
that sounds unpleasant. homo.


their clean, your such a moran!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111


Who's they? Did you mean to say they're clean? As in your fat rolls?



yeah... i was trollin. -_-



toggletoggle post by Spaldino at May 20,2011 9:36am
Alx_Casket said[orig][quote]
@arilliusbm: found you a new genre of music, how do you like it?


bennyhillifier



you're a fucking asshole. this seriously just ruined my life. im ending it.



toggletoggle post by MikeOv at May 20,2011 4:14pm
Chicks corpse paint looks like a shittier version of Averse Sefira's.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at May 20,2011 4:28pm
anonymous said[orig][quote]
aril like always, is dead wrong. you are a whiney little bitch who needs to get a life. you probably know next to nothing about black metal as it is. who fucking cares how long someone has been listening to it. Who fucking cares if the band doesnt look 'black metal' enough. you are an idiot and it amazes me no one calls you out, fucking bitch


i agree that it doesn't matter how long someone's been listening to it, or what they look like... but I don't agree that Aril doesn't know what he's talking about.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at May 20,2011 4:31pm
wuts a black metal? is that liek a video game or sumthing



toggletoggle post by Spaldino at May 20,2011 4:52pm
FuckIsMySignature said[orig][quote]
wuts a black metal? is that liek a video game or sumthing


bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at May 20,2011 4:54pm
oooohhhhhh.



toggletoggle post by burnsy at May 20,2011 4:57pm
FuckIsMySignature said[orig][quote]
wuts a black metal? is that liek a video game or sumthing


No it's what my bunk bed is made of.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at May 20,2011 5:02pm edited May 20,2011 5:03pm



toggletoggle post by thirdknuckle  at May 20,2011 5:03pm
It's like white rap, but only kind of



toggletoggle post by bobnomaamrooney at May 20,2011 5:06pm
burnsy said[orig][quote]
FuckIsMySignature said[orig][quote]
wuts a black metal? is that liek a video game or sumthing


No it's what my bunk bed is made of.


BobNOMAAMRooney said[orig][quote]
My response to the ad:
Hi, I saw your ravishingly grim book case on craigslist and I'm wondering if the flame of its availability still burns. I think it would make a nice contrast in the necrotic paleness of my living room and really give the book case a feeling of total isolation.

Your friend in Satan,
NAEZXEMRMBAELRUGU'GUELGUELUZURATH





toggletoggle post by ark at May 20,2011 6:51pm
Spaldino said[orig][quote]
FuckIsMySignature said[orig][quote]
wuts a black metal? is that liek a video game or sumthing


bennyhillifier


BACKED, reeeeeeallly hard.



toggletoggle post by thirdknuckle  at May 20,2011 8:48pm
Black Metal fans!
IWRESTLEDABEARONCE are mocking you!
Ridiculing you!
What are you going to do about it?



toggletoggle post by thirdknuckle  at May 20,2011 9:32pm
Varg should burn down their rehearsal space




toggletoggle post by Spaldino at May 20,2011 9:41pm
thirdknuckle said[orig][quote]
Black Metal fans!
IWRESTLEDABEARONCE are mocking you!
Ridiculing you!
What are you going to do about it?


listen to a song or two of theirs and realize they are ridiculing themselves.



toggletoggle post by thirdknuckle  at May 20,2011 9:45pm
Agreed. It's like when Anthrax went rap.



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