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returntothepit >> discuss >> Shed a Tear: The Age of Broadband Caps Begins Monday by arilliusbm on May 1,2011 11:45am
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toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 1,2011 11:45am
http://wired.com/epicenter/2011/04/att-broadband-caps/


Come Monday, AT&T will begin restricting more than 16 million broadband users based on the amount of data they use in a month. The No. 2 carrier’s entry into the broadband-cap club means that a majority of U.S. broadband users will now be subject to limits on how much they can do online or risk extra charges as ugly as video store late fees.

AT&T’s new limits — 150 GB for DSL subscribers and 250 GB for UVerse users (a mix of fiber and DSL) — come as users are increasingly turning to online video such as Hulu and Netflix on-demand streaming service instead of paying for cable.

With the change, AT&T joins Comcast and numerous small ISPs in putting a price on a fixed amount of internet usage. It’s a complete abandonment of the unlimited plans which turned the internet into a global behemoth after the slow-growth dial-up days, when customers were charged by the minute and thus accessed the internet as sparingly as possible.

Comcast’s limit, put into place after it got caught secretly throttling peer-to-peer traffic, is 250 GB — which the company says less than 99 percent of users hit. AT&T plans to charge users an extra $10 per month if they cross the cap, a fee that recurs for each 50 GBs a user goes over the cap. And while 150 GB and 250 GB per month might seem like a lot, if you have a household with kids or roommates, it’s not too difficult to approach those limits using today’s services, even without heavy BitTorrent usage.

(For those not accustomed to calculating their bandwidth usage, video streaming and online gaming use much more bandwidth than web browsing or e-mailing. For instance, Netflix ranges from .3 GB per hour to 1.0 for normal resolution movies and up to 2.3 GB per hour for HD content.)

And it should noted that U.S. limits are far from the world’s worst: Canada’s recently imposed restrictions prompted Netflix to give customers there a choice of lower-quality streams to keep their usage down, because users are charged up to $5 per GB that they exceed their cap. Caps are also worse in Australia.

But for the nation which has been key to a wildly expanding internet, the changing tide is both a practical and cultural letdown.

The drive to cap usage is ostensibly a way to reduce costs. But in reality, it’s not about the cost of data – bandwidth costs are extremely low and keep falling. Time Warner Cable brought in $1.13 billion in revenue from broadband customers in the first three months of 2011, while spending only $36 million for bandwidth — a mere 3 percent of the revenue. Time Warner Cable doesn’t currently impose bandwidth caps or metering on its customers — though they have reserved the right to do so — after the company’s disastrous trial of absurdly low limits in 2009 sparked an immediate backlash from customers and from D.C. politicians.

The real problem ISPs want to fix is congestion due to limited infrastructure. Cable customers share what are known as local loops, and the more that your neighbors use their connection, the less bandwidth is available to you — a situation that becomes painfully clear in the evening, when cable users see their throughput fall.

The blunt-force approach of a bandwidth cap does have the advantage of making users think twice about streaming HD movies from Netflix. That is, perhaps not coincidentally, doubly to the advantage of most big ISPs, because they’d rather have you spending money on their video services than paying a third party. Bandwidth-intense services threaten to turn the likes of Comcast, AT&T and Time Warner Cable into utilities — a dependable business, but not one that has the huge profit margins these companies have come to enjoy.

Indeed, the question of who gets to write the rules about the internet’s pipes is the major bone of contention in the net neutrality debate, both for terrestrial and mobile data networks. When the new net neutrality rules go into effect, ISPs won’t be able to block their online video competition, but there’s no rule against doing that with bandwidth caps or tiered usage pricing.

Moreover, as we all move towards more and more cloud services, whether that’s for backups, music or movies, it’s worrisome that ISPs are more concerned about reining in their most dedicated customers in service of meeting Wall Street’s expectations. Instead, they should be taking the opportunity to dig up the streets to create fiber networks that will make us a nation that’s top in the world’s broadband-ranking chart, rather than a laggard.

The real solution is adding infrastructure at the local level, though an interim solution could entail metering data only during peak times, much as mobile-phone calling-minutes plans apply only during peak hours.

But, that just goes to show, yet again, that what’s good for the Street often doesn’t translate into what’s good for the country.



toggletoggle post by Doomkid   at May 1,2011 11:58am
Old news still annoying news.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at May 1,2011 11:59am
Just a friendly reminder.



toggletoggle post by Doomkid   at May 1,2011 12:04pm
Yeah, its shitty because in conjunction with broadband caps cable companies are pushing stateside legislation(and passed it in about 7 states) that doesn't let the govt lay broadband cable or provide it as a municipal service.



toggletoggle post by Botorious N.I.G. at May 1,2011 12:10pm
Anal porn is expensive again.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHeadNLI at May 1,2011 1:00pm
250 gig is not bad, except like they said where you're splitting cable with roommates or other apartments.

I live in a condo, just me and my fiance. But I don't have anything beyond broadcast cable. Not even basic. I stream everything via hulu, or download it. I have my whole system running to a t.v., for hulu and such, and also my PS3 can dowload movies, stream netflix (although I've yet to try or need it) or play files from a usb drive.

I watch a good deal of t.v. and movies too. In addition, I transfer some pretty large music files back and forth with other musicians. Some project files can be over 100 megabytes or MORE, depending on what settings I'm recording at.

Point is, I've yet to hit any "cap" with Comcast, who service this area and supposedly have a 250 gig cap. Like they say in the article, the percentage of customers that use the limit is TINY. It's mostly people running servers from home, etc. I've been streaming all my t.v. and such for several YEARS now, and don't come close to touching the limit.

And if you ARE coming close to the cap, switch to standard def or 480p or whatever it is. You'll cut usage in half.




toggletoggle post by ArrowHeadNLI at May 1,2011 1:05pm
For perspective, the average standard def movie is around 1 - 1.5 gig. The average 40 minute (1 hour) t.v. show is around 500mb.

How many people watch 250 movies a month? Or 500 t.v. shows a month? That's like 20 shows a day, every day. Or 8 movies a day, every day. or a combo of three movies, and ten t.v. shows a night, EVERY night.

Really, is this that bad?



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at May 1,2011 8:42pm
ArrowHeadNLI said[orig][quote]
For perspective, the average standard def movie is around 1 - 1.5 gig. The average 40 minute (1 hour) t.v. show is around 500mb.

How many people watch 250 movies a month? Or 500 t.v. shows a month? That's like 20 shows a day, every day. Or 8 movies a day, every day. or a combo of three movies, and ten t.v. shows a night, EVERY night.

Really, is this that bad?
but this limit also includes your average Web surfing too...depending on what sites (how intense they are graphically, how many ads they have, how intense the ads are graphically) you visit on the regular, that limit could be met easily



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at May 1,2011 8:43pm
....and don't forget about gaming either...that factors in too



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at May 2,2011 7:08am
....and cat videos on youtube too



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at May 2,2011 7:10am
...and cat porn videos on redtube too



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at May 2,2011 7:12am
link?



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at May 2,2011 7:54am
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
....and don't forget about gaming either...that factors in too
Alx_Casket said[orig][quote]
....and cat videos on youtube too
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
...and cat porn videos on redtube too

... and DDOSing the deserving



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at May 2,2011 10:02am
sucks for a lot of people cause someone could DDOS your home and make you go over your caps.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS should be working at May 2,2011 10:55am
DDOS = the devil



toggletoggle post by ark at May 2,2011 11:22am
good article. bandwidth caps aren't sustainable and won't leave room for profits. in 20 years we will be telling telecoms "told ya so, you gonna lobby for net neutrality now?"



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at May 2,2011 2:45pm
damn, my house is screwed. All the HD porn watched in the fapatorium is gonna cost some benjamins son!



toggletoggle post by narkybark   at May 2,2011 3:17pm
blurry little wet spot



toggletoggle post by Alexecutioner at May 2,2011 3:59pm
time to go back to drawing nipples on the victoria's secret catalog and squinting to make them look like they're real :(



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