post by AndrewBastard at Mar 17,2011 5:46pm edited Mar 17,2011 5:47pm
fucking weak...
I'm totally anti-far left, lunatic leanings politically speaking unlike most NPR fans but I listen to NPR all day every day at work. I'll be bummed if it doesn't survive.
post by mutis nli at Mar 17,2011 5:56pm
A radio station with a balance of public and corporate influence? Not at my back yard tea party.
post by ctb0rderpatrol at Mar 17,2011 6:22pm
if NPR was that great, they'd survive without welfare handouts. if it dies, its only because it deserves to
NPR goes against the grain of Mainstream Medias propaganda machine. not surprised..but saddened nonetheless.
post by ctb0rderpatrol at Mar 17,2011 6:29pm
NPR is part of the mainstream media's propaganda machine
post by Slag nli at Mar 17,2011 6:53pm
Lol @ handouts. Speaking of handouts, let's ask the oil industry about the 40 billion they just got in stipends. What have they done lately besides destroy an entire eco-system?
post by ctb0rderpatrol at Mar 17,2011 7:01pm
didnt say i was for that either. im just sayin we all shouldnt have to pay for a radio network that at best 1/3 of the american public listens to. if that 1/3 wants it so bad, they'll pay for it from their pockets, not mine
post by BobNOMAAMRooney nil at Mar 17,2011 7:03pm
If you're that butthurt over NPR getting federal funds I'll spot you the 1.35 in taxes that goes to the CPB
post by ctb0rderpatrol at Mar 17,2011 7:10pm
its not about my 1.35. its about the 15 tril in deficit. i think cutting NPR is a pretty harmless way of cutting it. slash it now
besides, when you got private donors like bill gates the eugenicist, why wouldnt you need federal funding?
post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Mar 17,2011 8:21pm
There's nodoubt cuts need to be made. It's just that cutting NPR's funding while leaving the Bush Tax Cuts in place is like treating cancer with a pedicure.
post by Dankill at Mar 17,2011 8:45pm
Didn't they just have that guy who got fired from NPR say that he actually hoped they lost funding because he thought NPR would do better in the private sector? Shit, how much money do you think PBS has made off of Sesame Street, Barney the Dinosaur and Dora the Explorer alone?
There's nodoubt cuts need to be made. It's just that cutting NPR's funding while leaving the Bush Tax Cuts in place is like treating cancer with a pedicure.
This.
It's an opportunistic cut. Without NPR's public funding, they're subject to corporate bullying and manipulation.
Didn't they just have that guy who got fired from NPR say that he actually hoped they lost funding because he thought NPR would do better in the private sector? Shit, how much money do you think PBS has made off of Sesame Street, Barney the Dinosaur and Dora the Explorer alone?
Dude, PBS is suffering even more than NPR in the money sector. One of my parents works in the program budgeting department and they've had to make horrible cuts and such in the past several years because of a reduction in federal funding. NPR and PBS wouldn't survive with the same quality programming in a free market because the collective brain of the market is too stupid to realize that long-term investments like: good children's programming, deep investigative reporting and educational programming for adults are good ideas.
Gov't is F-word N-word B-word C-word G-word J-word
post by ctb0rderpatrol at Mar 18,2011 8:29am
get donatin hippies! its supported by viewers like you!
post by ctb0rderpatrol at Mar 18,2011 8:30am
when the fcc tried putting in place the low power FM licensing system, NPR was one of the front-runners in opposing low powered community radio. they are anti-free speech. they dont give a shit about bias any less than fox news does.
post by ctb0rderpatrol at Mar 18,2011 8:45am
of course im not one to bitch about corperate or government domination of our media without actually doing something about it. we didn't vote for the fcc which in my eyes makes them an illegit regulatory agency. the majority of this country doesnt want to be skimmed to fund npr when most of us live paycheck to paycheck. end of story. not defending statists of either parties here. the "oh well the reps do blah blah blah" strawman argument does nothing for me. they can fuck off too. maybe suggesting we take NPR's funding and diverting it to education would be a good suggestion perhaps?
either way, scope this bad johnny out. 48 watts on the FM band. fuck em if they can't take a joke.
Quoted from a guy who pays a lot more attention to the govt than I do (he works for the state dept):
So in '87 the GOP gets rid of the Fairness Doctrine, leading to the proliferation of right-wing radio throughout the country, leading to the likes of Limbaugh and Beck. Now they want to defund NPR. Perhaps a recognition that their ideology needs to be insulated from reality to survive?
snacks for thought
post by ctb0rderpatrol at Mar 18,2011 9:15am
lots of good info on how to get on AM radio, in a true unadultered free-market fashion. ya' know, the real free market, not the fake one.
Sure cut NPR along with everything else that's not 100% necessary and we'll save a little bit of money (likely to be immediately diverted into defense funding). While school systems flounder and not only can't support arts and music but are beginning to cut funding for science and technology lets symbolically cut a sliver of our budget that resonates with the sheepish masses. Why do anything constructive, Americans want a lot of stuff but aren't willing to pay for it, or even to say that rich Americans should pay for it in a way that's fair to everyone. No one needs a Million dollars a year, or a 25000 week long stay in a posh hotel. But the idea that someday dumb Americans with no skills from the middle of nowhere will be rich and might have to pay higher taxes than rich people now is ridiculous. I just don't see what the point is of debating the NPR cuts, when it doesn't make any difference. The idea that this is a legitimate effort to save money in the overall budget is stupid.
these cuts go in line with the cuts for public education funding, the elimination of music, athletics, art classes, the death of any shred of culture this country has. NPR isn't perfect but defunding it won't save the country a goddamn cent.
these cuts go in line with the cuts for public education funding, the elimination of music, athletics, art classes, the death of any shred of culture this country has. NPR isn't perfect but defunding it won't save the country a goddamn cent.
NPR is not the bastion of culture that it touts it is. new britain CT's polish community is, the appalacian moonshine-running celts are, the midwest family farmers, and their housewives that cook the same dishes that have been in the family for generations are, etc. im sick of the misuse of the word "culture." NPR might tell you that X tribe in Y sewer trench of a country does this or that, but it doesnt mean a thing to any of us listening when our towns turn into stripmalls, farmland gets stripped of its topsoil and replaced with a housing development, and if you're white, forget about expressing your culture. thats racist. can NPR, end the FCC and let our media de-centralise and for the patchwork of communities here to set up their own smaller powered stations. if you wanna save culture in america, you first have to allow for the open and free expression of it. the FCC allows corperate interests and NPR run the show. NPR is guilty of killing culture here just as much as clearchannel communications. they have and will fight tooth and nail to keep low powered community radio stations off the air
Have you ever had "real" midwestern food? It is not the food famillies have been making for generations. Everything is made with overprocessed name brand sodim and cholesterol rich garbage that has only existed for the past 50 years. The recipes just have quaint names like great grandmas velveta mac n cheese with prince breadcrumb topping. Please insert tm symbols where applicable.
If there's no NPR and no FCC then clearchannel and Murdoch and the like will run the show. NPR is a good resource, I agree with you the FCC does more harm than good in many areas but if there's no regulation than the telecom corporations will swallow everything, suffocate low-power radio, etc. They have the power to keep the airways and internet tubes neutral but they haven't done that yet because of the power those corporations have in the govt.
My point about culture is not only without public education culture is diminished, but the stripmalling of america goes hand in hand with deregulation of corporate interests and the free market bulldozing farmland and copyrighting corn.
I guess the main point I want to make is defunding public radio is a political stunt and not doing a damn thing toward keeping federal funding within the country, and won't make a dent in the balance sheet. It's not sensible or effective legislation, it's the cries of a broken government supported by brainwashed idiots.
appealing to economic self-sustainability is absurd, only works for the lowest common demoninator
kinda like democracy
one count of esoteric vague statement, bake 'em away, toys.
post by ark at Mar 18,2011 1:17pm
I can see one positive thing about the House of Representin' being so divided about this crap, the GOP is splitting itself apart, between the tea party nutbags, the free market reactionary conservatives, and true fiscal conservatives, who might actually start voting across lines and maybe getting shit done.
post by ctb0rderpatrol at Mar 18,2011 1:23pm
well as a fiscal conservative, im consistent in wanting to see cuts, including but not limited too military spending for our adventures halfway across the world
post by ark at Mar 18,2011 1:29pm
i'm with you, not only that but things like 78,000,000,000 dollars to Hosni Mubarak's regime over the last few decades, which worked out real well. and there are so many other instances of spending like that. while the house bickers over state media funding.
NPR is not the bastion of culture that it touts it is. new britain CT's polish community is, the appalacian moonshine-running celts are, the midwest family farmers, and their housewives that cook the same dishes that have been in the family for generations are, etc. im sick of the misuse of the word "culture." NPR might tell you that X tribe in Y sewer trench of a country does this or that, but it doesnt mean a thing to any of us listening when our towns turn into stripmalls, farmland gets stripped of its topsoil and replaced with a housing development, and if you're white, forget about expressing your culture. thats racist. can NPR, end the FCC and let our media de-centralise and for the patchwork of communities here to set up their own smaller powered stations. if you wanna save culture in america, you first have to allow for the open and free expression of it. the FCC allows corperate interests and NPR run the show. NPR is guilty of killing culture here just as much as clearchannel communications. they have and will fight tooth and nail to keep low powered community radio stations off the air
Culture: The distinctive ideas, customs, social behaviour, products, or way of life of a particular society, people, or period. Hence: a society or group characterized by such customs, etc.
While strip-mall culture is a shitty culture and no one wants to see it grow any more than it already has, you need to sit the fuck down. White people are constantly expressing their culture, perhaps what you see as your particular piece of white culture is not generally approved up by society. Perhaps you should take that as a sign that its time to leave race-based cultural pride in the past.
80 fucking percent of Americans live in cities, its time to stop living in the fucking fantasy of the American as agriculturalist or a rural people.
"one ten-thousandth of 1 percent of the federal budget"
post by ctb0rderpatrol at Mar 19,2011 7:14am
[QUOTE="Yeah,%20you‘re%20an%20idiot:1185237Culture: The distinctive ideas, customs, social behaviour, products, or way of life of a particular society, people, or period. Hence: a society or group characterized by such customs, etc.
While strip-mall culture is a shitty culture and no one wants to see it grow any more than it already has, you need to sit the fuck down. White people are constantly expressing their culture, perhaps what you see as your particular piece of white culture is not generally approved up by society. Perhaps you should take that as a sign that its time to leave race-based cultural pride in the past.
80 fucking percent of Americans live in cities, its time to stop living in the fucking fantasy of the American as agriculturalist or a rural people.
actually, my family has a farm, its no fantasy....and i can't wait for this economy to slip into 3rd world status. all 80 % of you city people are fucked. ill be busy eating, brewing liquor, and working the soil. hell still got my great grandfathers horse drawn plow. ill have the last laugh there. its the city people who live in a fantasy, thinking its sustainable to produce nothing but carbon dioxide and feces, and shuffle papers around like its a real job.
and i'd leave my ethnic based pride in the past when uhh, everyone else in the world does. not shitting on anyone elses culture, im just sick of being labeled in the same group as the anglo-saxon slave traders and expected to carry that guilt around despite the fact that my fam is a newer arrival. indo-europeans are the most open and tolerant people in the world. and thats a fact. no where else in the world outside of western civ exists an open border policy. of course, we're still the bad guys.
Have you ever had "real" midwestern food? It is not the food famillies have been making for generations. Everything is made with overprocessed name brand sodim and cholesterol rich garbage that has only existed for the past 50 years. The recipes just have quaint names like great grandmas velveta mac n cheese with prince breadcrumb topping. Please insert tm symbols where applicable.
LOL! This is true. It ain't organic healthy food out here, it's 2-3 generations that cooked EVERYTHING in lard, is now obese with diabetes and drives around in a Lark.
[QUOTE="Yeah,%20you‘re%20an%20idiot:1185237Culture: The distinctive ideas, customs, social behaviour, products, or way of life of a particular society, people, or period. Hence: a society or group characterized by such customs, etc.
While strip-mall culture is a shitty culture and no one wants to see it grow any more than it already has, you need to sit the fuck down. White people are constantly expressing their culture, perhaps what you see as your particular piece of white culture is not generally approved up by society. Perhaps you should take that as a sign that its time to leave race-based cultural pride in the past.
80 fucking percent of Americans live in cities, its time to stop living in the fucking fantasy of the American as agriculturalist or a rural people.
actually, my family has a farm, its no fantasy....and i can't wait for this economy to slip into 3rd world status. all 80 % of you city people are fucked. ill be busy eating, brewing liquor, and working the soil. hell still got my great grandfathers horse drawn plow. ill have the last laugh there. its the city people who live in a fantasy, thinking its sustainable to produce nothing but carbon dioxide and feces, and shuffle papers around like its a real job.
and i'd leave my ethnic based pride in the past when uhh, everyone else in the world does. not shitting on anyone elses culture, im just sick of being labeled in the same group as the anglo-saxon slave traders and expected to carry that guilt around despite the fact that my fam is a newer arrival. indo-europeans are the most open and tolerant people in the world. and thats a fact. no where else in the world outside of western civ exists an open border policy. of course, we're still the bad guys.
I agree with your second part but must point out your fatal flaw. If a crisis were to happen and us "city folk" were to start starving, do you think you would be safe on your family's farm. I don't care if you got a gattling gun and are John fucking Rambo, eventually someone will find you while wandering in search of food and devise a plan to kill you and take said food.
Either that or the government will force you to grow food for the army to "protect" you
post by ctb0rderpatrol at Mar 19,2011 5:04pm
fuck it. families been doing it from their days in the slovak/rusyn districts of the austro-hungarian empire up to today in america. if they kill me, whatever. i go down doing what im well suited for. farming, and getting pissed like rambo
Have you ever had "real" midwestern food? It is not the food famillies have been making for generations. Everything is made with overprocessed name brand sodim and cholesterol rich garbage that has only existed for the past 50 years. The recipes just have quaint names like great grandmas velveta mac n cheese with prince breadcrumb topping. Please insert tm symbols where applicable.
LOL! This is true. It ain't organic healthy food out here, it's 2-3 generations that cooked EVERYTHING in lard, is now obese with diabetes and drives around in a Lark.
i have 3-4 generations minimum of family who cooks shit in lard. its the only way ill rock potato pancakes. im thinkin i shold start a restaurant called slava the hut and fill the menu up with family dishes. no regard to the whims of health-nut yuppies.
post by OUR FOOD YOUR GULLET at Mar 19,2011 5:10pm
Good. Fuck NPR. Far from unbiased, always depressing.
post by Headbanging Man at Mar 20,2011 12:30am
I like having NPR around, and I hope this doesn't make it through the Senate, but let's not overrate NPR's worth as a news/commentary source either. They still won't use the T-word for "Enhanced Interrogations", their hosts mindlessly gobble up the propagandic talking points of scumbags from "think tanks" like the American Enterprise Institute and the Brookings Institution, their most "liberal" programming is largely apolitical identity/culture fare, and they spend far more time discussing Beltway kabuki than offering real policy analysis or confrontational journalism. It does offer more intelligent programming than commercial radio does, but it still has followed the same pattern of dumbing down and cozying up to the powerful that has been quite noticeable in the commercial MSM over the past 20-25 years.
The intelligence and journalistic value of programs on 90.9 definitely goes up significantly after midnight, when they broadcast the BBC feed. Even though at times it is a mouthpiece for the official British government/NWO-Bilderberg worldview, it still performs a valuable, cutting edge journalistic service. It's probably because journalism in the UK doesn't involve fellating the political and business elite on the air and at Georgetown cocktail parties.
one count of esoteric vague statement, bake 'em away, toys. 
