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returntothepit >> discuss >> Early thoughts on the new Starcraft by arilliusbm on Aug 1,2010 7:20pm
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toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 1,2010 7:20pm
8============D ~~~~~~~~~~



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Aug 1,2010 7:24pm
oh yea? whats so bad about it



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 1,2010 7:40pm
no, it's good



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 1,2010 7:41pm
check that... It's greeeat



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Aug 1,2010 7:47pm
oh kk is it worth 60 bucks tho as where heroes of newerth was 30 bucks and i cant get enough of it



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Aug 1,2010 7:47pm
ONLY TYRANIDS ARE REAL



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Aug 1,2010 7:47pm
its that standalone DotA remake



toggletoggle post by slamwow at Aug 1,2010 8:08pm
I love slam chowder, it's delicious



toggletoggle post by SteveSummoned   at Aug 1,2010 11:45pm
I'm sure it rules hard, I just wish trailers for the games showed ACTUAL game footage.



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Aug 2,2010 12:47am
i think they do



toggletoggle post by blessed offal nli at Aug 2,2010 1:20am
RichHorror said[orig][quote]
ONLY PROTOSS ARE REAL



toggletoggle post by bobnomaamrooney at Aug 2,2010 2:02am
DOES THIS GAME ALLOW YOU TO CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS?



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Aug 2,2010 8:16am
SteveSummoned said[orig][quote]
I'm sure it rules hard, I just wish trailers for the games showed ACTUAL game footage.


I totally agree... i actually don't know this particular game, but they do it with all the big new game releases, and i hate it. I would be MORE inclined to buy a game after a trailer of actual game-play, than i would after seeing what amounts to a preview for a CGI-Anime. It PROBABLY helps them sell more copies though, i'd assume little kids don't know better, and if they like what the commercial looks like they probably harass their parents for it. Like:
"Call of Duty: Black Ops", i am obsessed with COD MW2, and REALLY wanna know if Black Ops is gonna run on the same engine (even though it's a different company) but the trailer is ALMOST all CGI Anime... there are only like quick flashes of what the game actually looks like.



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Aug 2,2010 8:16am
Not worth the money in any sense. $60 for the game plus $60 for each of the two expainsions totaling $180 for the complete game(The base game alone is not worth even close to $60 for what it has going for it). Waiting 12 years for nothing more than a graphical upgrade to SC1. The new BNet sucks. Good job Blizzard, you ruined another genre I once loved.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 8:22am
expansions? When?

I haven't played online yet and don't plan on doing it much.
This game is a huge upgrade from sc1. I love the research points and credits aspect of it.



toggletoggle post by ProgMetalDrmr at Aug 2,2010 8:23am



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 8:26am edited Aug 2,2010 8:26am
how can you not like this game? It's everything a sequel should be: an upgrade from the original without losing the feel of the first. they expanded on the depth as well.
I'm about 6-7 maps in.. So far I'll give it 93 out of 100.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 2,2010 9:01am
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]
SteveSummoned said[orig][quote]
I'm sure it rules hard, I just wish trailers for the games showed ACTUAL game footage.


I totally agree....
double backed. I keep thinking it's some new final fantasy movie.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 9:19am
The original Starcraft had cgi movies that were also used in ads.
The game has both awesome cgi movies and equally awesome sequences shot in the game engine.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 9:24am
RTS lives on.

Death to XBOX. Death to PS3.



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 9:31am
Aril likes a game made after 95? *HEAD ASPLODE*



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 9:35am
Been waiting 12 years for this game. Of course.



toggletoggle post by Snli at Aug 2,2010 9:53am
Aril would like this fucking game. Everyone likes it. It's simple and easy. Single player RTS is like masturbation, unless you are a fucking retard, you always win. Like Carmeggedon or Twisted Metal 2. Word is, he had trouble with Day of the Tentacle.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 9:59am
TM2 sucked. Never liked those titles. I don't plan on playing this online soon because I was too addicted to playing SC1 online at one point.

I you jest that I suck at video games and only like easy ones, come challenge me on any of the games I play. Actions speak louder than words, anonymous dude.



toggletoggle post by C.dEAD at Aug 2,2010 10:07am
Really wish this wasn't just on PC. I really liked the ports of Warcraft 2 on the PSone and Starcraft on the N64, so I see no reason why they couldn't do this on the consoles. So much $ they would make.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 10:12am
RTS needs to stay PC.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 10:14am edited Aug 2,2010 10:15am
I will not let these "consoles" take over PC gaming. As PC gamers, we must stand our ground before the corruption of these so-called "consoles" take over. The war is far from over.



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 10:54am
Console vs PC war is stupid. They're just games. Fanboyism == religious extremism



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Aug 2,2010 11:08am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
TM2 sucked. Never liked those titles. I don't plan on playing this online soon because I was too addicted to playing SC1 online at one point.

I you jest that I suck at video games and only like easy ones, come challenge me on any of the games I play. Actions speak louder than words, anonymous dude.


This is hilarious. I don't think mr. snli meant anything by it Jim, but it sure is funny seeing you get so mad about people not respecting your video game skillz. relax buddy, you have great hand-eye coordination. *growl*



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 11:16am edited Aug 2,2010 11:29am
lol dude.. Again, I wasn't mad!

It's more or less a running gag I have on this board with a few people. The only one I've played with is Reimroc but he only stays in a game for 10 minutes before leaving (ADHD?).
I've been challenging a few for tfc battles to no avail.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 2,2010 11:19am
m%20nli said[orig][quote]
Console vs PC war is stupid. They're just games. Fanboyism == religious extremism
you are right since everyone knows that the PS3 is the best videogame system ever.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 11:20am
m%20nli said[orig][quote]
Console vs PC war is stupid. They're just games. Fanboyism == religious extremism


it was valid up until the consoles became mini computers.

Not to mention computers have better technology and video cards.

PC 1
Consoles 0



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 2,2010 11:22am
yeah, I love when a new game comes out for the PC. I put it in and it's either says "not enough ram" or "video card doesn't support DX12 or OpenGLblah. get a new card or GTFO"



toggletoggle post by oscarct  at Aug 2,2010 11:22am
DUKE NUKEM 3D AND ZUMA ARE THE ONLY PC GAMES I HAVE PLAYED



toggletoggle post by oscarct  at Aug 2,2010 11:23am
and orgegon trail of course



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 2,2010 11:23am
I put a new game in my 3.5yo PS3 and all it asks is if nilla wants a bj.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 11:24am
New egg package deals hve new CPUs with dual video cards, etc for $1300.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Aug 2,2010 11:28am
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
yeah, I love when a new game comes out for the PC. I put it in and it's either says "not enough ram" or "video card doesn't support DX12 or OpenGLblah. get a new card or GTFO"


I really do like playing games on the PC, i did it as a kid all the time, but THE reason i switched to consoles was exactly what you're saying. One out of every two games i'd buy, i'd have to go back to the computer store and upgrade something. Bullshit. PS3 rules hard.



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 11:29am
1300 dollars to be able to play a few games (that are only decreasing in number) or 300-400 dollars to play an ever-increasing number of games. Like I said, I don't care because I myself might be building a PC in the near future for awesomeness and maybe gameplayitude but the fight between the two is stupid. Aril's argument is dumb because my PS3 is more powerful than his computer. Not to mention that consoles have ALWAYS been "mini computers"



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 11:34am
I've got a newer computer; your PS3 is not better as far as specs go.

But yes, upgrading computers for the sole reason of playing games gets old. But, not being a fan of the FPS genre makes your argument invalid. FPS games push boundaries these days.
Everything on PC always looks better than consoles, but the playability and availability of console gaming has made them the champs. PC gaming is not as popular as it used to be, as reflected in your average gamestop.
1998-2002, EB had walls of PC games. Now they're lucky to have a shelf.
RTS needs to stay on PC.
FPSs are better on PC.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 11:44am edited Aug 2,2010 11:47am
Only PC gaming is real.
I hope this never comes out as a port to a console.
I don't want to see PC gaming completely fizz out. I can understand why consoles are 10x more popular now, but there are certain genres that should strictly stay on PC or Mac.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Aug 2,2010 11:45am
FPSs are better on the PC? I don't think that's relevant anymore. Modern Warfare 2 looks as good as any FPS i've seen on PCs or consoles, and there are plenty of buttons on the controller to play the game without awkwardness
. and i'm not putting down pc games, it's just that pc games were always looked at as better because you had so many options for controls with all the buttons on the keyboard, and because of the processing power. PS3 has every bit of processing power that you would need to run any new game on it, and with the right tv, they'll look as good as pc too.


I just think your argument got outdated when they made consoles have all the processing components of pcs.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 11:53am
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]

I just think your argument got outdated when they made consoles have all the processing components of pcs.


precisely. which happened the moment they started putting in harddrives, RAM, computeresque video cards, etc. They're computers built for gaming. But keep in mind each generation has a gap of around 3-5 years. Newer computer video cards now are 10x better than that of PS3 and 360. But the next gen systems will match it.
I've played many FPS games on consoles but am partial to having a mouse because I think it's much better for aiming and controlling. Obviosuly everyone has an opinion; FPS games grew up on the PC and I still think PC has advantage in the genre.
Also RTS games on Consoles are just silly.
Turned based is fine but rts?



toggletoggle post by mutis   at Aug 2,2010 12:02pm
Blizzard can suck it. My girlfriend and I have been waiting for this release for a while. Since we have to buy two copies just to play together now, that's like almost $400 bucks after taxes.

Also, FPS on PCs give me carpal tunnel (I use a Wacom exclusively). I'd rather sit back on a couch with a root beer and some cookies. Can't do that on a PC.



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 12:04pm
Mouse + FPS > Controller + FPS
At least, in the experience I've had with FPS's.

I still don't get why you think consoles were never computers and now they suddenly are. They've always been computers. They have, however, converged in terms of applications. Surf the internet on your console? GO RIGHT AHEAD... etc etc

I personally like console better because I feel more connected to a game through a computer. I associate keyboard and mouse with writing papers - not fun.



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 12:04pm
*controller lol not computer



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 12:06pm
Offending console gamers is like throwing a rock at a bees nest.



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 12:07pm
IF YOU TAKE ALL THE CHIPS OUT OF A SUPER NINTENDO IT STILL WORKS BECAUSE IT'S NOT A COMPUTER



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 12:11pm
They've always been computers, but I'm speaking in modern terms. Connecting o the net, playing mp3s, OSs, etc. Obviously they've been computers because they've always been machines processing information.
But look at a Sega genesis and compare it to a computer in 1992. Completely different.
Look at them today. They're wanna be computers.



toggletoggle post by mutis   at Aug 2,2010 12:11pm
Somewhere after Unreal Tournament 2004 I started feeling more comfortable with a game controller than a mouse. Maybe they just started making console FPSs playable.



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 12:17pm
only internet, mp3s, and OSs on your PC is real



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 12:19pm
where's reimroc, slag, and ark when you need em.



toggletoggle post by narkybark   at Aug 2,2010 12:19pm
Fuck Starcraft. WHERE IS DIABLO 3?



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 12:21pm
More clickfest games? Fuck dat



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Aug 2,2010 12:33pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Offending console gamers is like throwing a rock at a bees nest.



Actually mentioning any games made after the year 2000 to YOU is like throwing a rock at a bees nest. The rest of us are just having a conversation. You fucking duchebag. You're as asshole, and your music sucks.


















































sm:7



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 12:35pm
7 SMs out of 1000



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 12:41pm
Alright. Let me set the record straight:

I'm not knocking console gaming at all. I've always loved both. Obviously I'm somewhat alone in the opinion that FPS games are better on (new)PCs and RTS don't belong on consoles.

I've enjoyed all FPSs I've played on consoles, I just think having a mouse and keyboard are better suited for those types of games.



toggletoggle post by narkybark   at Aug 2,2010 12:43pm
It pretty much took until PS3 came out that I always considered the PC superior, but it's just not like that any more. It'll still be the best for RTS's and MMRPGs, at least until consoles get a mouse n' keyboard thing going. At that point there'll really be no difference. The one huge advantage that PC gaming has is game moddability.

Strangely, I don't have much interest in SC2. I've played every other game they've put out, but I think I'm burnt on the RTS genre.



toggletoggle post by narkybark   at Aug 2,2010 12:46pm
Oh, and mouse/keyboard is definitely superior. Just like a month ago one of the FPS companies admitted they were going to develop cross-platform servers but then didn't when even in a huge beta test, PC gamers were massively better than ones using controllers, like no contest, so they canned the whole idea. I wish I could remember who that was so I could spring it out whenever the topic comes up.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 12:50pm
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]

sm:7


which still leaves 3 a you being serious.

Cripes. All I ever do is post a conservative approach on the direction metal and video games are heading in. And each time I'm partially joking- but as above, I leave 3 for serious.
You really think I care that much about this shit? Everyone is always entitled to their opinions and can do what they want. I come to a message board to spark discussion with adverse opinions. Simple as that.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 1:01pm
8==========D~~~~~~~~



toggletoggle post by Slag at Aug 2,2010 1:50pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
lol dude.. Again, I wasn't mad!

It's more or less a running gag I have on this board with a few people. The only one I've played with is Reimroc but he only stays in a game for 10 minutes before leaving (ADHD?).
I've been challenging a few for tfc battles to no avail.


When I don't have to play $6.00 to play TFC, you'll get your challenge. In the meantime, play me in TF2.



toggletoggle post by Slag at Aug 2,2010 1:53pm
PC IS STILL SUPERIOR. Mouse and keyboard are really the only way to play games that require precise control and multiple keystrokes. Plus, I like the ability to multitask everything.... go from mixing a track to playing a game to surfing the internet. Plus, no red rings of death.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 1:58pm
Slag, TF2 is what.. 15 bucks on steam?



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Aug 2,2010 1:58pm
This thread is now about Fallout: New Vegas




http://fallout.bethsoft.com/index.html





bennyhillifier








toggletoggle post by bobnomaamrooney at Aug 2,2010 2:01pm
I'm still waiting on Alpha Centauri II



toggletoggle post by Slag at Aug 2,2010 2:03pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Slag, TF2 is what.. 15 bucks on steam?

$20 bucks. I paid $5 for it during a sale and have 70 ish hours into it. I'd say that is a pretty excellent price to performance ration.



toggletoggle post by Slag at Aug 2,2010 2:03pm
I'm really looking forward to Diablo 3. I hope they can capture the ambiance of the first game, bring back the composer and make it evil as fuck.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 2:14pm edited Aug 2,2010 2:16pm
I'f you liked Diablo 1s music, check out James Blackshaw's album, Litany of Echoes



toggletoggle post by narkybark   at Aug 2,2010 2:15pm
The videos look killer and they're all 2 years old. Weird choices of player classes though.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 2:15pm
If I spend 20 bucks, you gotta spend 6.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 2:17pm
Personally, I think Diablo would be better off as an FPS/Rpg hybrid.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Aug 2,2010 2:22pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]

sm:7


which still leaves 3 a you being serious.

Cripes. All I ever do is post a conservative approach on the direction metal and video games are heading in. And each time I'm partially joking- but as above, I leave 3 for serious.
You really think I care that much about this shit? Everyone is always entitled to their opinions and can do what they want. I come to a message board to spark discussion with adverse opinions. Simple as that.


you are crazy. bottom line. I was being SARCASTIC jim. I even put the sarcasm meter there. nevermind.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 2:29pm
Lol.
SM 10



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Aug 2,2010 2:29pm
i'm still shocked you think any of that was serious. you need a break from the interwebs if you think I (your friend BY THE WAY) would really talk to you that way. I luv you damnit!



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 2:30pm
Vice versa !1!



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Aug 2,2010 2:48pm
no seriously, my reply calls you a duchebag, says you're an asshole, and says your music sucks. AND has the sarcasm meter.


you wrote this:
"Cripes. All I ever do is post a conservative approach on the direction metal and video games are heading in. And each time I'm partially joking- but as above, I leave 3 for serious.
You really think I care that much about this shit? Everyone is always entitled to their opinions and can do what they want. I come to a message board to spark discussion with adverse opinions. Simple as that"


Don't be acting like you were joking too. That was serious and you know it.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 2:57pm
That was more or less directed at Martins, and anyone else who takes everything I say about new video games so literally. It was also a sarcastic comment expressing my displeasure for those whom get offended so easily. Wasnt mad one bit (why do you always think I'm mad anyways?)



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 3:01pm
EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS LITERAL OR YOUR A PUSSY



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 3:03pm
FUCK OFF IM MAD

LET ME PM YOU ON HOW MUCH YOUVE MADE ME HATE THIS BOARD



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Aug 2,2010 3:05pm
I don't always think you're mad jim. Only when what you're saying in response to something sounds very serious and isn't funny. Cause yeah, that thing that you just said was in response to Martins.... go back and look at it, cause you have me quoted in that post RIGHT before you say it, so yeah, it was to me.




toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 3:09pm
Lol I was referring to the remaining 3 left in the sarcasm meter that you listed. But I was being sarcastc with the sarcasm meter because it doesn't matter that much. brain hurt yet?
SM: 6



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 3:13pm
SM:100
SM:0

Sarcasm: serious business.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Aug 2,2010 3:14pm
You should read what i just posted in the sarcasm meter thread, and then you'll fully understand the sarcasm meter... And you'll understand the fact that there weren't 3 left in the meter, the 7 stands for the amount of sarcasm in my "voice" when saying it.... yes, the system is flawed, i think i found a better way to do it, go ahead and read about it in the SM thread.



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 3:17pm
Aril's just an emo guy right now. He's having a rough time adjusting to his new lifestyle. He PMed me the other day about it and I fully respect him for it even though I don't agree with it. Leave him be, ouchy.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 3:18pm
lol this conversation is so dumb now.

What about Starcraft now?

SM: 3.141592653589793



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Aug 2,2010 3:21pm
I still think this game is nowhere worth $60. The campaign and story may be alright but there really isn't anything revolutionary within the game warranting the 12 year development. At least now that they got SCII done they can FINALLY finish up on Diablo 3.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Aug 2,2010 3:21pm
leave him be, do you really think i was "picking on him"? well ok, jim - i luv you, have fun with your new starcraft game. You should come by and jam soon.



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 3:23pm
lol



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 3:29pm
Martins lied. No PM from me.
God dammit I'm confused now. I'll buy you a drink at cynic, ouchy. Hahah



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Aug 2,2010 3:30pm
that's jimbo to you, pal. SM:0 (cause my friends call me Jimbo *Rainbow emoticon*)



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 3:31pm
Oh ya Cynic. See ya there aril.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 3:33pm
Ill buy martins low sodium grass-fed beef broth.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 3:34pm
You guys have tickets yet?



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 3:35pm
nerp



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Aug 2,2010 3:35pm
m%20nli said[orig][quote]
Oh ya Cynic. See ya there aril.
you're mean, he JUST said he's gonna buy me a drink at it, and you can't say you're gonna see me there too? It hurts. (***sarcastic***)



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 3:35pm
Well I saw you at the Gorguts show but you didn't recognize me or something and ignored me haha (unless that wasn't you uhhh)



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Aug 2,2010 3:36pm
well, since you're "m nli" i have no idea who you are. (***NOT sarcastic***)



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 3:37pm
Definitely not martins @ work



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 3:38pm
sm^-1: infinitesimal



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Aug 2,2010 3:41pm
you martins? i think i did see you, you all skinny and shit so i didn't recognize you at first, but i did recognize you. You be a sexy bitch.



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 3:43pm
Yeah, shit happens. I still love you.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 3:44pm
I still haven't met m nli and I bet you we won't meet at cynic.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Aug 2,2010 3:44pm
that's hot.



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 3:45pm
Ouchy, I'll text you at Cynic and you make sure I meet aril.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Aug 2,2010 3:47pm
you've never met him? Really? Cause he was at Gorguts with me.... and i think i pointed you out to him.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 3:49pm
Me and bobnomaamrooney yelled out "NEW FINAL FANTASY SUCKS" and martins flinched, but did not look.



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 3:49pm
He was making a big deal out of how I didn't say hi to him there but I have no idea what he looks like except for in that wonderful, wonderful RTTP meme pic.



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 3:50pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Me and bobnomaamrooney yelled out "NEW FINAL FANTASY SUCKS" and martins flinched, but did not look.


Didn't hear that. I was too busy playing duck duck goose.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Aug 2,2010 3:51pm
apparently he was NOT making a big deal out of it, and you misunderstood his being playful.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 3:51pm
you were too busy eying grant up and down and being curious.



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 3:52pm
Well the big deal was a e-big deal meaning it wasn't even big and possibly not even a deal.



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 3:52pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
you were too busy eying grant up and down and being curious.


Hadn't seen him in like a year, can you blame me?



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Aug 2,2010 3:52pm
deal of the century!



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 3:53pm



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Aug 2,2010 3:54pm
2 for 1s
1 for 2s
3 for 50% off
we pay YOU to take 7
and bring us ten and you can have 20!


DEALS DEALS DEALS



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 3:55pm
we've got premium prices

more like creamulum prices



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 3:55pm
Come to think of it, I've never formally met many people that post.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 3:57pm
.. Which is a good thing



toggletoggle post by m nli at Aug 2,2010 3:58pm
sm10 yay



toggletoggle post by ArrowHeadNLI at Aug 2,2010 7:24pm
I agree that PC is the best for a lot. I've been the fanboi for a long time. Unlike what everyone here says, I've had the same system I built years ago, and even the latest games I picked up (bioshock 2, Dragons Age, Borderlands, etc...) run fine on it. Every month, PC gamer lists a $500 system that can run every game out at the time, albeit at lower settings.

The point someone already made is far too true, however. No matter how much better FPS are with a 4000dpi mouse and short-throw keyboard, no matter how much easier RTS is with a full keyboard, and no matter how much smoother and BETTER the graphics look on every game I play, the industry lost faith in me. Less and less games are coming out for PC. The games that do come out are more and more often half-assed shitty ports, and a lot of the good titles are hitting the consoles first.

I gave up and bought a PS3. I love it. I will never EVER play FPS on that. I bought Resistance, and learned that incredibly fast. One of the first things I did when I got my PS3 was download demos of all the different games I had on PC, like Assasins Creed, Bioshock, Call of Duty 4, and NOTHING looked as good. There's some stuff that is not even remotely the same, graphically. Whole backgrounds missing, lighting effects gone, etc...

I downloaded the Batman demo. What was the most playable and awesome set of PC controls I ever used was the most awkward fucking controller setup ever. The irony is, I can use a PS controller I have on my PC, and STILL preferred mouse and keyboard for that.

I will say that some games are turning out to suit the controller better, Assasin's Creed for one.



TLDR: Fuck PCs, I gave up and bought a PS3



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 2,2010 7:30pm
Arrowhead, my friend. I think I am in agreement with you.. PC gaming is dying.. and has been for a long time.
That is why it is important for games like Starcraft2 to stay PC.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHeadNLI at Aug 2,2010 7:46pm
Where was your good computer when I was playing Demigod and the first Supreme Commander, bastard.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Aug 2,2010 8:15pm edited Aug 2,2010 8:16pm
THIS ENTIRE THREAD





toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Aug 3,2010 12:46am
somebody call for an exterminator?



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Aug 3,2010 12:46am
You call down the thunder.... and I'll reap the whirlwind.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 3,2010 1:24am
see, the PS3 wins again!



toggletoggle post by blessed offal nli at Aug 3,2010 2:49am
C.dEAD said[orig][quote]
Really wish this wasn't just on PC. I really liked the ports of Warcraft 2 on the PSone and Starcraft on the N64, so I see no reason why they couldn't do this on the consoles. So much $ they would make.


i see alot of reasons. these games were not meant for consoles. only pc is real for RTS.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Aug 12,2010 10:07am
so this game is awesome. it's really similar to starcraft 1, but many units are more versatile and there's infinitely more strategies. i'm ranked #2 on the bronze league in battle net. i got bumped down from the silver league because i kept getting raped. i've played maybe 30 matches since it came out. the single player mode crashes my computer, but it won't when i replace the mobo.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Aug 12,2010 10:08am
i've been playing at work a lot during off hours. my bnet name is symbyosys if anybody wants to get rushed by reapers or form a team.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 12,2010 10:12am
Reapers SUCK!
Any seige tank/base defense can take em out.
I've only played a few matches online but am near the very end of single player (youre not experiencing the full extent of the game until you do singl player IMO. Some of the cut scenes are fucking epic)



toggletoggle post by mutis   at Aug 12,2010 10:13am
What's the unit limit for SC2? Is it still 200? Inquiring minds must know!



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 12,2010 10:15am
But I'm interested in doing multiplayer. It's Waaay different than single player in the sense of upgrades and tactics. awesome game; it's already moved into my top 10 list of best computer games of all time. I real hope this doesn't get ported to XSchmox.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 12,2010 10:18am
mutis said[orig][quote]
What's the unit limit for SC2? Is it still 200? Inquiring minds must know!


yes. however, you can select numerous troops at once and make massive armies.

another thing that's awesome is they used all the same voice actors.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 12,2010 10:24am
Ark do you use hot keys?



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Aug 12,2010 10:34am
yeah 200 is the limit because the map resources are still pretty much the same. hot keys are the only way to play, i use super fast mouse scroll and hot keys. i just did a reaper rush to a protoss player and took out his resources, and he still got me with void rays.



toggletoggle post by Slag NLI at Aug 12,2010 10:36am
Only working on your craft is real.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Aug 12,2010 10:37am
also, zerg are hard to play. each race is much different this time around. i played a game that lasted an hour the other day, because i couldn't bust through terran defense. i owned the whole map and starved him of resources and still couldn't manage to get through turrets, tanks and bunkers with everything i could throw at him. i just had to wait out the siege.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Aug 12,2010 10:39am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Reapers SUCK!
they are excellent at jumping the cliff directly into your minerals at the beginning of the game, also good at destroying buildings fast. sort of useless mid to late game though.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 12,2010 10:45am
Is it me or have zerglings and lisks lost their pop?

Also, 100 gas for lisks? Fuck is that?



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Aug 12,2010 10:47am
nah it's you. lings are the same and lisks were made a little better. their role was split with the roach which is inferior but can move while burrowed...thread is entering super nerd strategy mode.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 12,2010 10:50am
yes. I've only played Zerg once so far (single player does have Zerg missions yet) so I'm still a scII Zerg nub. I did a ling rush and it didn't seem like SC1. I used to make massive hydralisk armies in SC1. I'm much better at Terran at the moment du to single player.
As always, Protoss is awesome. Expensive, but awesome. Music is incredible too.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Aug 12,2010 10:52am
yeah the music is up to blizzard standard. the diablo 3 soundtrack will be great.

the protoss and zerg campaigns will be seperate expansions which is lame, but with the amount of depth the put into the single player this time i guess that makes up for it.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 12,2010 10:56am
fucking phonegrish.

Yea man, I'm loving the single player campaign. Can't wait for the next one.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Aug 12,2010 10:58am
viking and thor units are SICK....but i miss the valkyries =[



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Aug 12,2010 11:05am
I still feel SC1 > SC2



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Aug 12,2010 11:05am
now if you will excuse me i'm going to go play some DoW/DoW2.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 12,2010 11:08am
there's a bunch of units that I miss or they changed. They spread it out more in this one and have way more units.
No dragoons?? They have the immortal and the other thing. Needs more dragoons.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 12,2010 11:18am
someone is trying to give me a free 7-day code.



toggletoggle post by Spaldino at Aug 12,2010 12:16pm
m%20nli said[orig][quote]
Mouse + FPS > Controller + FPS
At least, in the experience I've had with FPS's.




i was that asshole in the halo 2 days that had a converter for a mouse and keyboard so i could use them on the xbox. such a huge advantage.



toggletoggle post by quintessence_nli at Aug 12,2010 6:28pm
narkybark said[orig][quote]
Oh, and mouse/keyboard is definitely superior. Just like a month ago one of the FPS companies admitted they were going to develop cross-platform servers but then didn't when even in a huge beta test, PC gamers were massively better than ones using controllers, like no contest, so they canned the whole idea. I wish I could remember who that was so I could spring it out whenever the topic comes up.


Ever since Ps2 was out ive always wonder WHY the consoles do not enable the use of 3rd party usb keyboards and mouse. Is it really THAT hard? Or are they just that greedy where they need to have control over it? Can't they design their own brand of keyboards or something.



toggletoggle post by quintessence_nli at Aug 12,2010 6:30pm
It really infuriated me when fucking Halo was all the rage with newbs using their controlers and I love trying out new FPS but not with a god damn gay controller, no fucking way.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Aug 12,2010 6:41pm
Frank is a good man



toggletoggle post by narkybark   at Aug 12,2010 6:58pm
I think mouse n' keyboard will be standard at some point. Now that consoles have internet capability, there's no reason not to, and it opens them up to genres like MMRPGs.



toggletoggle post by PC Games Suck at Aug 12,2010 7:17pm
im sorry but anyone who thinks pc games are better is a moron. I have been playing video games my whole life and not once has a computer game stood out. morons



toggletoggle post by quintessence_nli at Aug 12,2010 9:10pm
LOL, yeah cause no one ever played warcraft, starcraft, diablo, quake, counterstrike, half life or SIM FUCKING CITY ASSHOLE.



toggletoggle post by quintessence_nli at Aug 12,2010 9:10pm
ONLY OREGON TRAIL IS REAL FAGGOTS.



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Aug 12,2010 9:39pm edited Aug 12,2010 9:39pm
oregon trail is good



toggletoggle post by randy mash at Aug 15,2010 5:18pm
just got this. psyched



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Sep 23,2011 11:32pm
Replaying single player. Fapping



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Sep 24,2011 10:13am
LOL at the PC vs. console war thread. The truth is Steam and digital distros saved PC gaming. PC is finally getting a lot of attention from the whole industry once again, and the hardware is sooo cheap now. My PS3 rules too. Just as it always was, there's always good games for both platforms. I'm playing through Chrono Cross now and that game couldn't have happened without Playstation. Blizzard games would have never worked on console, especially in the early battle.net days.

Jim, what's your b.net name? We gotta get a game going sometime.



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Sep 24,2011 1:21pm
Wait what I thought console games are what u play while waiting for ur next hon game



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 29,2012 2:57pm
Game is good. I love the storyline now. Awaiting the next episode.



toggletoggle post by Randy_Marsh at Oct 29,2012 2:58pm
Play online or pussy.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Mar 15,2013 8:40am
I'm refusing to post on this forum with its current infestation of lameo f-word n-words cuntbag vaginas, but the new Starcraft episode came out this week. Fuck everything else, game owns.



toggletoggle post by Southern Poverty Law Center at Mar 15,2013 11:23am
quintessence_nli said[orig][quote]
ONLY OREGON TRAIL IS REAL FAGGOTS.


Oregon Trail? Only ARTILLERY is real!!!



toggletoggle post by Randy_Marsh at Mar 15,2013 12:55pm
Just finished campaign for Heart of the Swarm. I haven't finished an RTS campaign in years, maybe if ever. Been playing online frequently last couple months with some friends. Also playing Nocturne and Suikoden V for PS2 emulated.

HOTS is cool, much more fair than Brood War was. I think the original SC is better or at least more fair than BW.



toggletoggle post by West Coast Hipster Relief Organization at Mar 15,2013 2:16pm
If it isn't emulated and 8-bit, I am so not interested.



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