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returntothepit >> discuss >> Motorola denies eFuse is a "poison pill" to stop people from changing Android flavor on Droid X by RustyPS on Jul 16,2010 12:23pm
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toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Jul 16,2010 12:23pm
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorol...-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/

"There's been a lot of chatter going around the interwebs in the past 24 hours about the Droid X's exceptionally well-locked bootloader -- a situation that is going to make running custom ROMs considerably more difficult (bordering on impossible) compared to your average HTC. Specifically, the culprit is said to be a technology known as eFuse -- developed by IBM several years ago -- which allows circuits to be physically altered at the silicon level on demand. Thing is, the term "eFuse" has taken on an unrelated meaning this week, with My Droid World claiming that some chip inside the Droid X is commanded to "blow the fuse" if it's unable to verify the stock bootloader, which permanently bricks the phone. It amounts to a really, really hard slap on the wrist for anyone trying to hack, say, Sense or stock Froyo onto it.


Considering IBM's historically non-nefarious usage of the term "eFuse," we suspected something was amiss here, so we reached out to Motorola for an explanation. Read on to see what we got back.


"Motorola's primary focus is the security of our end users and protection of their data, while also meeting carrier, partner and legal requirements. The Droid X and a majority of Android consumer devices on the market today have a secured bootloader. In reference specifically to eFuse, the technology is not loaded with the purpose of preventing a consumer device from functioning, but rather ensuring for the user that the device only runs on updated and tested versions of software. If a device attempts to boot with unapproved software, it will go into recovery mode, and can re-boot once approved software is re-installed. Checking for a valid software configuration is a common practice within the industry to protect the user against potential malicious software threats. Motorola has been a long time advocate of open platforms and provides a number of resources to developers to foster the ecosystem including tools and access to devices via MOTODEV at http://developer.motorola.com."

So in other words, yes, eFuse will shut down a phone with an unapproved bootloader -- but it won't brick the phone, it just needs "approved software" to be dropped back on there. Knowing the wealth of talent in the Android development community, we're still really hopeful this nonsense is going to get circumvented either way, but at least we can breathe a little easier knowing that Moto isn't out to destroy your multi-hundred-dollar investment."



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jul 16,2010 12:24pm
Dumb.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 16,2010 12:24pm
I was just reading that. no clue. I have froyo running on my TP2 and it rules. I just need to get a model sms.xml to export my winmo to android.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Jul 16,2010 12:30pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Dumb.
It sounds to me like Motorola wants it both ways: have an "open source" ideal while still keeping things proprietary

I have a feeling Google probably isn't happy about this



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD  at Jul 16,2010 12:31pm
The title of this thread is some of the the most nonsensical jibberish I've ever read. You could give it to a bunch of the world smartest researchers twenty years ago with unlimited resources, and they wouldn't have been able to crack the meaning to save their lives.

I hate cell phones.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Jul 16,2010 12:35pm
ShadowSD said[orig][quote]
The title of this thread is some of the the most nonsensical jibberish I've ever read. You could give it to a bunch of the world smartest researchers twenty years ago with unlimited resources, and they wouldn't have been able to crack the meaning to save their lives.

I hate cell phones.


the article's actual title was: "Motorola responds to Droid X bootloader controversy, says eFuse isn't there to break the phone"

better?



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD  at Jul 16,2010 12:41pm
Ah, I'm just bitching, I'm sure the headline is perfectly acceptable to those who are knowledgable on the topic.

It just sounds like gobbledygook to everyone else.

My favorite flavor of Android is Yellow Data Butterscotch.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 16,2010 12:41pm
cool tech.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jul 16,2010 12:51pm
this shit is way over my head



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jul 16,2010 12:54pm
I'll stick to my car phone, thx.



toggletoggle post by timma at Jul 16,2010 1:07pm
FuckIsMySignature said[orig][quote]
this shit is way over my head



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Jul 16,2010 1:25pm
Fagthread is fag.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Jul 16,2010 1:51pm
ShadowSD said[orig][quote]
Ah, I'm just bitching, I'm sure the headline is perfectly acceptable to those who are knowledgable on the topic.

It just sounds like gobbledygook to everyone else.

My favorite flavor of Android is Yellow Data Butterscotch.


well you can flamamaque my pataflafla!



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jul 16,2010 3:18pm
ShadowSD said[orig][quote]
The title of this thread is some of the the most nonsensical jibberish I've ever read. You could give it to a bunch of the world smartest researchers twenty years ago with unlimited resources, and they wouldn't have been able to crack the meaning to save their lives.

I hate cell phones.


hahaha i thought the same thing. actually, my first thought was "oh, that's nice".



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