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returntothepit >> discuss >> murphys in philyy and a couple nazi guys by degenerate bastard on Apr 26,2010 12:41pm
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Friday night NYHC legends Murphy's Law played a show at Olde City's Khyber Pass, a small, beer-soaked dive of a bar that has been a Philadelphia institution for quite some time now. While most of the crowd in attendance was there for music, drinks and fun, there was a very small segment of the crowd who showed up with a completely different agenda.

During the set of one of the opening bands; Workhorse III, a buzz began to filter through the crowd like an infection as whispered reports of three strangely-dressed gentlemen circled through the audience of mostly middle aged Murphy's Law fans. Outside the club, loitering on 2nd street were three unidentified men causing quite a stir as they were dressed in full Nazi SS vintage military garb. These men were wearing camoflouged combat pants; woolen, WWII-era coats adorned with SS emblems and authentic Third Reich hats with Nazi insignias emblazoned atop them. They were heavily tattooed with more Nazi-inspired symbols and were seen casually mingling within and without the club; smiling, chatting and carousing as if oblivious to the outrage their appearance was causing. Witnesses on the scene could not understand their intentions and, at first, most who witnessed their strange costumes were convinced that it had to be some kind of sick joke.

It wasn't.

A swarm of young, heavily tattooed Hardcore kids began swelling along 2nd St. as the three alleged Nazis were inside the club, presumably watching the bands. The air was charged with tension as the ranks of those opposed to the unknown Nazis and their style of dress swelled to about 40 or 50 people, all with menacing intent in their eyes. Nervous, excited glances passed through crowd as each and every person on the crowded street knew what was coming. Any veteran of Hardcore shows, no matter where, has experienced similar situations as tensions run high between opposing ideologies and unspoken, almost telepathic signals are sent back and forth through an advancing wolfpack of violence-craving teens and twenty-somethings. Beer bottles, cueballs in socks and various and sundry convenient weapons were clutched in anticipatory aggression as fists coiled at the ready for that sudden moment when the tension snapped like a too-taut wire and everything exploded.
It did.

The three alleged Nazis finally exited the club between the bands' sets and as they did muscles locked and begged to be sprung. Again, oblivious to the air around them, the three tried to make their way through the heart of the crowd that had been gathering on 2nd street and awaiting their arrival.
It didn't take long.

Glass smashed and a footrace ensued. The three victims barely made it 50 yards before the angry crowd set upon them. One Nazi was caught right in the middle of 2nd street as punches, kicks, bottles, boots and blows rained down upon his prone and turtled body. He could be heard crying for help all up and down the block. The other two were caught nearby and beaten severely as more weapons appeared. By now the bustling crowds of Olde City hipsters was aware of some kind of ruckus and nearby bouncers from other clubs stepped in to intervene. They pretty much saved the lives of the heavily outnumbered Nazis.
Then, almost as quickly as it began, it was over, and the unidentified victors were seen parading up and down 2nd St wearing the spoils of their bloody victory: the vintage Nazi caps that had been on the heads of the victims. The crowd of hooligans quickly dispersed as witnesses were questioned by police. No arrests were made.

The boisterous crowd quickly filed back into the Khyber to watch Murphy's Law. Frontman Jimmy Gestapo joked about the incident, bantering with the crowd about the price of freedom. The band quickly launched into an inspired set that pushed the boundaries of excitement, energy, and aggression. Spurred on by the adrenaline that a good riot inspires, the band erased the limitations of old age and, for the entire time they played, one could almost swear it was 1988 again. Murphy's Law ran through a set of fan favorites: "Cavity Creeps," "Sit Home and Rot," 'Crucial Bar-B-Q," and a slew of others whipped the crowd into further frenzy as fans stormed the stage and shared the mic with the always-charming and fun-loving Jimmy Gestapo. Jimmy rode the waves of a smallish, tightly packed crowd of sweaty revelers as the band just kept taking the energy level up and up. The band continually doused the crowd with beer, Jaggermeister and anything else they could throw out in celebration. At one point, while joking about the incident outside the club, Jimmy and the boys were so inspired by the event that they improvised a song right on the spot, calling out a refrain of "You should have known better," in direct reference to the Nazis and their outrageous garb. The audience was ecstatic and broke into spontaneous pits of almost-geriatric skanking and slamming. The response was truly amazing.

Violence has long been a necessary evil of the Hardcore scene, justified or not. It's what makes the music and the shows attractive: the potential for danger and incident always add an arc of electricity to the atmosphere that is not present in any other genre of music. Friday night Murphy's Law brought it, lit it up and watched it burn in incendiary waves of blockheaded destruction. It was a sight to behold."



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 26,2010 12:43pm
FIRST



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Apr 26,2010 1:04pm
Excellent. And how nice of Truman Capote to write it up.



toggletoggle post by randy marsh 9/11 at Apr 26,2010 1:18pm
haha awesome.



toggletoggle post by slarchetype of most foul blasphemy at Apr 26,2010 1:29pm
hahahahahahaha wtf?
reminds me of that time at the watain show when the guy handing out misspelled white power flyers to SHARPS got his ass handed to him,
MEIN FAIL IST TRUE



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Apr 26,2010 1:57pm
Miscegation NOW! Death to the white race.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Apr 26,2010 2:09pm
i hope this somehow turns into an Always Sunny episode for next season



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 26,2010 2:11pm
The Gang Makes New Friends



toggletoggle post by MetalThursday  at Apr 26,2010 2:18pm
Someone please bring the guitarist from The Offspring to the next Murphy's Law show...



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 26,2010 2:27pm
ITT: HAHDCOAH KIDS FIGHT FASCISM WITH, LOGICALLY, FASCISM



toggletoggle post by aaron_michael  at Apr 26,2010 3:16pm
MetalThursday said[orig][quote]
Someone please bring the guitarist from The Offspring to the next Murphy's Law show...


please explain?



toggletoggle post by MetalThursday  at Apr 26,2010 3:22pm
aaron_michael said[orig][quote]
MetalThursday said[orig][quote]
Someone please bring the guitarist from The Offspring to the next Murphy's Law show...


please explain?


...to get beat down for stealing the riff from Panty Raid and using it as the basis for my most hated song of 1994.



toggletoggle post by ARKTOUROS at Apr 26,2010 3:28pm
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
ITT: HAHDCOAH KIDS FIGHT FASCISM WITH, LOGICALLY, FASCISM


haha, seriously, a guy wearing a Himmler costume doesn't make him Himmler, it just makes him an idiot.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Apr 26,2010 3:29pm


A RECAP OF THIS PAST WEEKEND!
Current mood: exhausted
First off, we'd like to say THANK YOU to everyone that came out to our shows in Philly and Worcester!! We had a great time rocking out with our cocks on... oh WAIT! That ONLY happened in Worcester. Hahaha...

Alright, so I'm sure everyone has heard about those idiots that came to the show dressed in full-time German soldier attire. If not, here's the link to an article.

Needless to say, they were stomped into the pavement thanks to the locals. Aside from that, the entire show went very well and the bands kicked-ass as well. We were able to debut the new Murphy's Law line-up. Thanks Philly for the support!

We played in MA on saturday night. Ok, now Ralph's Diner is a venue with much potential and the people that came out to the show were all kick-ass. We genuinely had a blast!

The problem was that they put us on 15 minutes later from when they said they would (which on it's own wouldn't be a problem), BUT then that moron of a sound guy turned off our mics during our last song. What the fuck is that?? THEN to add insult to injury, the sniveling manager started claiming that he was only a bartender when was confronted about this bullshit, even though he had previously made mention to one of our band members that he was "in charge" earlier in the night.

So anyway, we'd just like to sum Saturday up with two things...

1. We appreciate all the support from all the people that came out and we had so fun playing for you!!

2. FUCK THAT LYING PUSSY IN CHARGE THAT JERKED US AROUND!!



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Apr 26,2010 6:46pm
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
ITT: HAHDCOAH KIDS FIGHT FASCISM WITH, LOGICALLY, FASCISM


Oh how true.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Apr 26,2010 6:53pm
I dunno, personally I feel like people who aren't willing to tolerate what people were born with shouldn't be tolerated for their actions at any level. The guys at the show seemed to have been doing nothing short of completely advertising the fact that they were Nazi assholes, and if you accept even one, who knows how many more will follow. It feels more to me like preventing a scene from becoming really shitty due to shitty attitudes than simply "fighting fascism with fascism".



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Apr 26,2010 7:00pm
Whatever, hardcore fans wouldn't have done shit if it was 3 on 3.



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Apr 26,2010 7:02pm
And no, I'm not condoning being a Nazi.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Apr 26,2010 7:12pm
largefreakatzero said[orig][quote]
Whatever, hardcore fans wouldn't have done shit if it was 3 on 3.


This I can agree with 100% unfortunately.

Nobody's as brave alone as they are in a group.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 26,2010 9:01pm
Lamp said[orig][quote]
I dunno, personally I feel like people who aren't willing to tolerate what people were born with shouldn't be tolerated for their actions at any level. The guys at the show seemed to have been doing nothing short of completely advertising the fact that they were Nazi assholes, and if you accept even one, who knows how many more will follow. It feels more to me like preventing a scene from becoming really shitty due to shitty attitudes than simply "fighting fascism with fascism".


The Cool Story Bro above actually comes out and says they were doing nothing other than smiling, joking, and enjoying Murphy's Law; I can only react with derision at the wicked tough white knight brodudes who were seething with futile rage at their simply being there in costume. They're allowed to "be Nazi assholes" all they want, as long as they're not actually doing shit to anyone then nobody really has any cause to interfere.

Unless, y'know, you're a white knight douche with 20 white knight douche friends, and you're taking the only direct action you'll ever take when it's completely safe and consequence-free to do so. COOL SOCIAL CHANGE, BRO.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Apr 26,2010 9:13pm
PUNK JUSTICE



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 26,2010 9:17pm
I mean, really, hands up who has actually ever seen a "Nazi" giving anybody non-white any trouble whatsoever. I have, but I've hung out with some seriously sketchy people and been around for some seriously sketchy shit in my time; I seriously doubt any of these kids have.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Apr 26,2010 9:38pm
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
They're allowed to "be Nazi assholes" all they want, as long as they're not actually doing shit to anyone then nobody really has any cause to interfere.


Why wait until it becomes a problem though?

If you allow shit like this to spread, what happens when it becomes 40-50 Nazis beating up a few non-racist people after a night of giving them funny looks at a show in the future?

What it comes down to in my eyes is which ideology would you rather see prevail? I don't agree that racists and non-racists can peacefully coexist either so don't tell me that.

(and after all is said and done I am a pussy anyway so I understand I'm pretty much a hypocrite in that sense, just trying to shed a different perspective to see where this conversation goes)



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Apr 26,2010 9:58pm
I want to add one more thing while I'm at it... if we were talking about ANYTHING else in the world, I mean literally ANY other group of people, all I would have added to this conversation is "bunch of stupid fucking pussy bros can't fight one on one" like everyone else. Some dude moshing different, skinheads (yes I know some skins are Nazis not all of them), metalheads, hipsters, scenesters, you name it. Any other group I wouldn't give a fuck about the douchebags who fought the way they did. But something just doesn't sit right with me when it comes to Nazi sympathy. Perhaps I am just flat out wrong, maybe they wouldn't have given anybody of a different color or sexual preference shit... but the idea of it just gives me the worst vibe.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 26,2010 10:30pm
HAI GUISE!!!

WHAT'D I MISS???



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Apr 26,2010 10:39pm
Nazis just make it harder for the rest of us scumbags.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 26,2010 11:04pm
Lamp said[orig][quote]
I want to add one more thing while I'm at it... if we were talking about ANYTHING else in the world, I mean literally ANY other group of people, all I would have added to this conversation is "bunch of stupid fucking pussy bros can't fight one on one" like everyone else. Some dude moshing different, skinheads (yes I know some skins are Nazis not all of them), metalheads, hipsters, scenesters, you name it. Any other group I wouldn't give a fuck about the douchebags who fought the way they did. But something just doesn't sit right with me when it comes to Nazi sympathy. Perhaps I am just flat out wrong, maybe they wouldn't have given anybody of a different color or sexual preference shit... but the idea of it just gives me the worst vibe.


"sympathy" = "not rat-packing in the street"?



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Apr 26,2010 11:15pm
I watched five frenchmen eat crepes and then park in handicapped nazi parking spaces tonight so the nazis had to park in legit nazi faggot spaces far away from the restaurant tonight and then I laughed and waddled with a full tummy and a heavy vas deferens bac to my car in the white power spot where the swastica bros had to walk a long time.



toggletoggle post by xgodzillax  at Apr 27,2010 12:29am
ill fight 3 dudes by myself. racism is hilarious, but i will stab a nazi. FUCK NAZIS



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Apr 27,2010 3:20am
I'd LOVE for my drummer (who is still in Germany, where he's spent the last 11 or so months) to weigh in on this. Much different over there, naturally, but the Nazis bring an unwanted element of police attention to the scene (black metal in particular) in addition to their inherent unsavory-ness. When I asked him why they didn't just band together and - like in this article - "smash them" and drive them out... he didn't really have a good answer. I personally see nothing wrong with beating this element out of a scene - and Dylan being Jewish, has a very interesting perspective on this. He's actually had people talk shit and nearly - if not actually now - come to blows. I know if some Nazi cunt over here said word one to him, I and (Ipsissimus bassist-vocalist) Al would have no problem getting physical.



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Apr 27,2010 7:19am
Not saying the morons shouldn't have gotten beaten. It's just that the cool story bro gives me a mental picture of a bunch of pussies taking most of the night to get their confidence up with 600 buddies. Why didn't someone immediately drop one of these retards? Because the majority of hardcore fans are pussies (obviously not xGodzillax) who can't fight on their own. Anyone who has gone to shows has seen this behavior a million times.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 27,2010 9:02am
Pretty much my point - that, and the irony of combating eeevil fascism with 10-on-1 gang beatings.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 27,2010 9:10am
I mean, I'm not crying over it, and neither should those dudes - you step out your door and that kinda shit can happen, and it's not like they shouldn't have seen it coming. I'm just imagining all the wicked tough hahdcoah kids high-fiving each other for days on end about how they struck a blow for peace, justice, and the American way. I.e., imagining themselves to be wholly different from that which they were fighting.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 27,2010 9:31am



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Apr 27,2010 9:32am
I'm as anti-racist/nazi as anyone. BUT i don't think kicking the shit out of someone for what they wear is alright. I mean, i knew plenty of XXXHardCoreXXX kids who would have WANTED to kick the shit out of me for the things i did to "poison" my body, and if these kids took the same approach, there thought pattern would be.

"Hey, that dude is OBVIOUSLY on drugs, and i heard he's even SOLD some drugs. I know he's just watching music now, but i don't want him selling drugs to my little brother and all his friends at shows, lets kick his ass."

Maybe if i HAD sold them drugs this would be OK. Can you see the difference? You can't police because of what someone MIGHT do. That's garbage, and unconstitutional.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 27,2010 9:38am



toggletoggle post by aaron_michael  at Apr 27,2010 10:25am
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
I mean, really, hands up who has actually ever seen a "Nazi" giving anybody non-white any trouble whatsoever. I have, but I've hung out with some seriously sketchy people and been around for some seriously sketchy shit in my time; I seriously doubt any of these kids have.


Ditto. I spent a lot of time in my youth hanging around "the pit" in Cambridge, and there were always transient people coming and going traveling from Canada to Florida, Chicago to Boston, Cali to Rhode Island, etc.
Most of the locals were black, hispanic, gay, vegan(insert "minorities can't hold jobs" jokes) so it was a big mish mash of people/lifestyles.
Needless to say, there was always the traveling nazi/white power group, or individuals who passed through. They were dealt with tolerance and even friendliness to not upset the balance of whatever obscure family values we had. Things almost always turned sour.
Everyone has different stories about "nazis", but I completely agree that "white knight" gang mentality being retarded since most of them have never encounted any real personal negative situations involving nazis. Most of those kids would probably cross the street if they saw a black man heading their way.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 27,2010 10:30am
aaron_michael said[orig][quote]
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
I mean, really, hands up who has actually ever seen a "Nazi" giving anybody non-white any trouble whatsoever. I have, but I've hung out with some seriously sketchy people and been around for some seriously sketchy shit in my time; I seriously doubt any of these kids have.


Ditto. I spent a lot of time in my youth hanging around "the pit" in Cambridge, and there were always transient people coming and going traveling from Canada to Florida, Chicago to Boston, Cali to Rhode Island, etc.
Most of the locals were black, hispanic, gay, vegan(insert "minorities can't hold jobs" jokes) so it was a big mish mash of people/lifestyles.
Needless to say, there was always the traveling nazi/white power group, or individuals who passed through. They were dealt with tolerance and even friendliness to not upset the balance of whatever obscure family values we had. Things almost always turned sour.
Everyone has different stories about "nazis", but I completely agree that "white knight" gang mentality being retarded since most of them have never encounted any real personal negative situations involving nazis. Most of those kids would probably cross the street if they saw a black man heading their way.


Yuh. Ironically, in a thread about Nazis, things aren't always black and white. HEYOOOOOO



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Apr 27,2010 10:32am
Dreamworld - hardcore kids respecting habeus corpus
Reality - wearing a flag of hate will get you beat down by a mob

Those guys would have been beaten down at a Grateful Dead show.
Personally, only under extreme circumstance, like if Greedo found me, would I ever swing first. No way would I join a crowd to land a hit on sombody that's already down.
Disgusting cowards!



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 27,2010 10:37am
arktouros said[orig][quote]
No way would I join a crowd to land a hit on sombody that's already down.
Disgusting cowards!


B-B-BUT LOOK AT HIS HAT!!!



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Apr 27,2010 10:44am
I DON'T HATE ANYONE!

DOES THAT MEAN YOU DON'T HATE NAZIS???!!



toggletoggle post by ARKTOUROS at Apr 27,2010 10:45am
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]
You can't police because of what someone MIGHT do.
Tell that to the Mass legislature. After my indentured servitude I want what's owed to me - a musket, bushel of corn, and $100.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 27,2010 10:58am
Yeti said[orig][quote]
I DON'T HATE ANYONE!

DOES THAT MEAN YOU DON'T HATE NAZIS???!!


Or do you don't not not don't hate not Nazis?



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Apr 27,2010 3:41pm
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]
I'm as anti-racist/nazi as anyone. BUT i don't think kicking the shit out of someone for what they wear is alright. I mean, i knew plenty of XXXHardCoreXXX kids who would have WANTED to kick the shit out of me for the things i did to "poison" my body, and if these kids took the same approach, there thought pattern would be.

"Hey, that dude is OBVIOUSLY on drugs, and i heard he's even SOLD some drugs. I know he's just watching music now, but i don't want him selling drugs to my little brother and all his friends at shows, lets kick his ass."

Maybe if i HAD sold them drugs this would be OK. Can you see the difference? You can't police because of what someone MIGHT do. That's garbage, and unconstitutional.


If we were talking about something other than Nazis I would agree with this post 100%. The world's already seen the destructive power that a guy like Hitler brought to the table, anyone who supports that deserves to get their asses beaten. The only place that shit has in society today is in a museum or in textbooks where it can be studied. Reading a story about 40 to 50 guys beating up a few Nazis makes me nothing but happy regardless of how much I would disagree with 40 to 50 people ganging up on only three guys in literally any other situation.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Apr 27,2010 3:54pm
Wearing a Nazi patch on your arm is offensive but ultimately harmless. A mob beatdown isn't. The kids in the mob acted like degenerate ravenous animals. "This is the USA and I've got the right to hate whoever I want" and well, I hate all parties involved, and all their ideologies.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Apr 27,2010 4:05pm
And really, as DYA said, those Nazis may wear the uniform but they still buy their cigarettes from Apu and for all I know collect their paycheck from a Mexican. Fucking. Harmless.

all I can think about reading this thread is Bruce Willis holding up the sign in Harlem.




toggletoggle post by Jews4Jesus at Apr 27,2010 4:10pm
I just read this and it was just stupid. It takes 50 people to grow enough balls to beat down 3 guys? Whoever said it never would have happened if it was 3 on 3 was dead on. Hell, if it was 9 on 3 it still wouldn't have happened. It's the same thing that always happens though, a group of people with liquid balls just follow eachother. They deserved to get kicked out, but here in America nobody deserves to be beat up just for being stupid. These are the same idiots that will beat down the homeless if their buddies think its funny.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 27,2010 4:10pm



toggletoggle post by GUY at Apr 27,2010 4:10pm edited Apr 27,2010 4:10pm
Racism is hilarious......well said



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Apr 27,2010 4:12pm
arktouros said[orig][quote]
Wearing a Nazi patch on your arm is offensive but ultimately harmless. A mob beatdown isn't. The kids in the mob acted like degenerate ravenous animals. "This is the USA and I've got the right to hate whoever I want" and well, I hate all parties involved, and all their ideologies.


Can't disagree with this.

Really, I think my first thought upon reading this thread was "I'm glad I don't go to Murphy's Law shows"... a band that attracts Nazis and herds of people who adhere to a gang mentality. Doesn't sound like fun.



toggletoggle post by xgodzillax  at Apr 27,2010 4:13pm
one on one or 10 on one, nazis need to be taken care of, with extreme prejudice.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 27,2010 4:21pm
xgodzillax said[orig][quote]
one on one or 10 on one, nazis need to be taken care of, with extreme prejudice.


LOL robocop




Also Jimmy G is full of shit for condoning this, he totally has had admirable things to say in my presence about some pretty sketchy bands (and has the goddamn records at home). Plenty of old-school NY dudes hush-hush appreciate WPish bands and keep quiet about it in public to stay on Epitaph and shit.



toggletoggle post by Jews4Jesus at Apr 27,2010 4:53pm
Good job pointing it out DestroyYouAlot. I bet all of these idiots were young, white kids and probably go around using the N-word and think WP music is funny. I know tons of punks myself just like that.

I also found this link while looking for the original article, it seems these idiots will beat up anyone.

http://yorachelswan.tripod.com/tongueartillery/id1.html



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 27,2010 5:04pm



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Apr 27,2010 5:05pm
"Ceebee Geebies"

Who the fuck wrote the transcript for this interview?



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 27,2010 5:47pm
"Agnostic Punta"



toggletoggle post by slartisian coordinates at Apr 27,2010 8:48pm
Lamp said[orig][quote]
I want to add one more thing while I'm at it... if we were talking about ANYTHING else in the world, I mean literally ANY other group of people, all I would have added to this conversation is "bunch of stupid fucking pussy bros can't fight one on one" like everyone else.


What you say here is key, lamp, because Nazi's are one of the few acceptable scapegoats in our society, that is to say, all you have do is put that label on someone (or in this case put it on yourself) and the most extreme measures are not only justified, but almost morally necessitated. Now, I myself am no fan of racism or fascism or any associaiated ideologies, and these guys, whether actual "nazis" or just dumbass pranksters should have known what was coming to them, but I still think its a bit scary that there are certain epithets you can use to provoke mindless mob violence no matter how well intentioned, kinda reveals how much sheep we all are.

"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster."

-Nietzsche



toggletoggle post by slartisian coordinates at Apr 27,2010 8:56pm
also, is the irony apparent to anyone else of a guy who calls himself Jimmy "GESTAPO" congratulating the crowd on beating up people for employing imagery from the third reich???



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