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returntothepit >> discuss >> Needs moar NFL draft talk by Dankill on Apr 7,2010 8:21pm
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toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 7,2010 8:21pm
Still waiting for Mike and Rusty's latest updates. I saw this draft board today on FOX Sports and I don't hate the Pats projected picks.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/nfl-mock-draft-version-5?Gt1=39002

#22 Sergio Kindle, DE/LB, Texas
#44. Rob Gronkowski, TE, Arizona
#47. Dexter McCluster, RB, Ole Miss
#53. Jerry Hughes, DE/OLB, TCU

I just question if Hughes would fall that far and I'd rather they go after either Arrelious Benn or Damian Williams at WR then a running back.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 7,2010 9:55pm
The Pats will not take Sergio Kindle. I'm putting that out there right now. He's Vernon Gholston part 2: big on athletics small on football skills. I think word is finally out on the dude, and a lot of the mocks I've seen lately have him going in the 2nd. There are just way too many players with more polished skill sets available at 22 for the Pats to take him there.

Gronkowski with the 44th overall? When the hell did tight end become this must have position for everyone? I realize the Pats really need a tight end, and I realize they drafted high on Ben Watson. But for Christs sake, neither Gronkowski or Gresham played a single down in 2009 and neither one of them could block to save their life when they were playing. WR is a bigger need at 44, IMO.

I like McCluster as a 3rd down Kevin Faulk type of player, but I think there are too many needs to address in the first 4 picks to take a running back. If they took him at 47 or 53 I wouldn't complain, but I think he's going off the board early in the 2nd because of the great pro day he had. Then whoever drafts him can remember that he's the size of Martin Gramatica.

Jerry Hughes available at 53? Only Fox Sports would come up with that projection.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 7,2010 10:04pm
But for the sake of saying something productive instead of proving Fox Sports wrong (like THAT's ever been a challenge) I'll list a tentative top 4

22. Jared Odrick DT Penn State
44. Damian Williams WR USC
47. Jason Worilds OLB Virginia Tech / or Kareem Jackson CB Alabama or if you really want a running back take Javid Best who may still be on the board.
53. TYSON ALUALU DT/DE Cal (I'm huge on this guy) or Alex Carrington DE (could be a true 3-4 DE) Arizona State

Alualu or Carrington is a win win either way. They're both great candidates to put some mean back in the D-Line. I'm perfectly fine with sitting until the 4th to take a TE and getting a guy like Tony Moeaki from Iowa, and not another 1 dimensional Ben Watson clone.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 7,2010 10:08pm
The stupidest mock I've seen yet had the Patriots trading up to the #8 spot to take Rolondo McClain. Actually that's tied with every mock that has the Pats taking Tim Tebow.



toggletoggle post by Murph  at Apr 7,2010 10:33pm
ITT: mike jerks himself off with...himself.

AMERICAN SPORTZ LETS HUDDLE 4TH DOWN GOAL LINE TOUCHDOWN MILLER TIME FOAM FINGER JESUS COIN TOSS SHOULDER PADS MEN.




toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 7,2010 10:50pm
xmikex said[orig][quote]
The Pats will not take Sergio Kindle. I'm putting that out there right now. He's Vernon Gholston part 2: big on athletics small on football skills. I think word is finally out on the dude, and a lot of the mocks I've seen lately have him going in the 2nd. There are just way too many players with more polished skill sets available at 22 for the Pats to take him there.


THANK YOU! dude's soft as shit...once he's blocked, he's out of the play...has fantastic speed, but once someone puts a hand on him, he disappears


bennyhillifier

Brandon Graham has grown on me by leaps and bounds, but he's grown on the analysts too, meaning he probably won't be at #22

Damian Williams is the guy I want the most...I'll be disappointed if the Pats pass on him

other guys I'm big on: Ryan Mathews (although I doubt they take him), Jared Odrick, Golden Tate, Alex Carrington, Tyson Alualu, Sean Weatherspoon (other guy that's probably gone by #22, and he's more of an ILB in a 3-4), Thaddeus Gibson, Jerry Hughes, Demaryius Thomas (who will fall because Georgia Tech had an option offense meaning he is not a polished guy at all), Akwasi Owusu-Ansah (projected 3rd round guy, and at the moment, they don't have a 3rd round pick)

other guys I would avoid like the plague like Kindle: Carlos Dunlap, Jason Pierre-Paul, Everson Griffen, TIM TEBOW, Anthony Davis, Arrelious Benn (the next coming of Braylon Edwards)



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 7,2010 10:52pm
plus, I've been hearing rumblings that Dan Williams could fall, which is intriguing



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 7,2010 11:30pm
Murph said[orig][quote]
ITT: mike jerks himself off with...himself.

AMERICAN SPORTZ LETS HUDDLE 4TH DOWN GOAL LINE TOUCHDOWN MILLER TIME FOAM FINGER JESUS COIN TOSS SHOULDER PADS MEN.



We go live to the floor of the MLS draft

With the 14th overall pick Stagnone Dry Cleaning selects... oh shit is that a black guy? Shit, yeah we'll take the black guy!



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 7,2010 11:45pm
xmikex said[orig][quote]
The stupidest mock I've seen yet had the Patriots trading up to the #8 spot to take Rolondo McClain. Actually that's tied with every mock that has the Pats taking Tim Tebow.

THANK YOU! I blame sports talk radio for putting that friggin idea in people's heads. All the time Tebow has spend out here with the Pats is nothing but a smokescreen for Bill's homie Urban Mayers.

I like Hughes but yeah, the dude ain't gonna drop THAT far down. Jared Odrick is the one I think they'll take first if he falls to #22 A lot of drafts have them taking Jermain Gresham but I don't think they'll go that high for a TE again. To me, that's why a guy like Gronkwski or Arron Hernendez late in the second wouldn't be the craziest idea. Although if the Pats think they can find a fitting sleeper TE in the later rounds, Mike, I'd agree and say focus on LB, DE and WR and that's it!



toggletoggle post by Murph  at Apr 8,2010 12:06am
xmikex said[orig][quote]
Murph said[orig][quote]
ITT: mike jerks himself off with...himself.

AMERICAN SPORTZ LETS HUDDLE 4TH DOWN GOAL LINE TOUCHDOWN MILLER TIME FOAM FINGER JESUS COIN TOSS SHOULDER PADS MEN.



We go live to the floor of the MLS draft

With the 14th overall pick Stagnone Dry Cleaning selects... oh shit is that a black guy? Shit, yeah we'll take the black guy!


MLS isn't soccer. It's what happens when failed college athletes and the unemployed line cooks at Taco Bell decide to party.

Si.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 8,2010 10:56am
The more I watch footage of Brandon Graham, and the more I watch footage of the other pass rush specialists at the top of the draft the more I get nervous that the Pats will miss out on Graham and end up with Ricky Sapp.

Graham is head and shoulders above just about every pass rush prospect in the draft, and the guy tackles like a freight train. I'd take him over Odrick even if he falls that far in the 1st. My only concern is that he played more of a 5 technique end at Michigan and everyone seems convinced he can just make the move to OLB in a 3-4... when no one has ever seen him cover anybody.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 8,2010 10:57am
oh and just an interesting chart of Patriot mock draft predictions:

http://www.patriots.com/news/index.cfm?ac=generalnewsdetail&pid=41762



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Apr 8,2010 10:58am
Rusty on CCSN? More likely than you think.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 8,2010 11:02am
If Rusty and I had our own show on NESN I think half the sports journalism community in New England would pack it up and find careers in real estate.



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Apr 8,2010 11:04am
would be awesome



toggletoggle post by martins nli at Apr 8,2010 11:07am
moar faggoty football riffs please?



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 8,2010 11:16am
xmikex said[orig][quote]
If Rusty and I had our own show on NESN I think half the sports journalism community in New England would pack it up and find careers in real estate.
Shaughnessy, Borges, Felger, Mazz, Butchy, Buckley, LJ, and Mustard, plz?



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 8,2010 11:22am
Sterns can stay. The rest can get me fries with my bacon classic.



toggletoggle post by DreadKill  at Apr 8,2010 11:24am
this just in: 98.5 the sports hub fires felger and maz and replaces them with "Football Riffs," hosted by xmikex and rustyPS.



toggletoggle post by DreadKill  at Apr 8,2010 11:25am
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
xmikex said[orig][quote]
If Rusty and I had our own show on NESN I think half the sports journalism community in New England would pack it up and find careers in real estate.
Shaughnessy, Borges, Felger, Mazz, Butchy, Buckley, LJ, and Mustard, plz?
i'd love to never have to see curly-haired boyfriend's ugly mug again.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 8,2010 11:34am
DreadKill said[orig][quote]
this just in: 98.5 the sports hub fires felger and maz and replaces them with "Football Riffs," hosted by xmikex and rustyPS.
LOVE IT



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 8,2010 5:47pm
Corny radio promo voice: "You're tuned in to 98.5 with Mike and Rusty R-R-R-R-RUSSSSTYYY and M-M-M-MIIIIKE on the one and only Sports Hub 98.5 FM BOSSSTOOONNNN"



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 8,2010 5:59pm
you mean like Dingo and the Baby?




toggletoggle post by GUY at Apr 8,2010 6:12pm edited Apr 8,2010 6:17pm
Draft tebow or your a pussy

DO IT, YOU WONT



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 8,2010 7:08pm
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england...4677032/patriots-host-wr-dez-bryant


I highly doubt Dez Bryant falls beyond the Seahawks' second 1st rounder @ #14....but I'm not gonna lie, I would be very happy being able to take him at #22, even if he is a "diva"



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 8,2010 7:20pm
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
DreadKill said[orig][quote]
this just in: 98.5 the sports hub fires felger and maz and replaces them with "Football Riffs," hosted by xmikex and rustyPS.
LOVE IT
The music clips won't suck, that's for sure. More worthwhile information, more lulz, mores riffs and less asskissery/total lack of pop culture references.
"What is that? I don't get it! B-Real! What's going on?!"



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 8,2010 9:50pm
I haven't been following Bryant a ton only because I didn't really think the Pats would be looking at him. But the guy is the real deal, and from what I understand a lot of his "character concerns" have been really vague. And nothing he's done thus far has been on par with the Crabtree spectacle from last year.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 8,2010 11:04pm
well the reason he got suspended by the NCAA was because he lied to them about his relationship with Deion Sanders, even though the reality of it was it was nothing more than Sanders mentoring the guy...NCAA was investigating Sanders being his agent while still being in college

NCAA: Fuck the Russians, We're The Real Commies



toggletoggle post by DreadKill  at Apr 12,2010 1:28pm
i'd like to see the pats get arrelious benn so he can catch TDs and instead of doing a dance, he can do a ritual about it, faggot.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 13,2010 10:29am
NFL.com is doing their Predict the Pick again: http://challengegames.nfl.com/predictpick

AND draftdebacled.com is doing a pick contest too....free to enter, $350 grand prize: http://draftdebacled.com/MockContest.aspx



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 13,2010 12:39pm
Patriots scouts will be visiting with Dexter McCluster on Wednesday and...
"The versatile running back said the Patriots talked to him about a slot receiver-like role at the combine."



Woooah.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 13,2010 12:42pm
awesome.....I really like McCluster



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Apr 13,2010 12:43pm
I am now officially scared of the NY Jets



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 13,2010 12:48pm
considering the Jets draft history, coupled with Holmes being out for the first month of the season, LT being a glorified goal line back, and Cromartie's lack of being able to spell his own name.....I'm not

they may have made all these moves, but look at the Redskins, they make crazy moves almost every offseason and where does that get them?



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Apr 13,2010 12:59pm
just saying the east isn't really a crazy overpowering division like it's made out to be. the jets are the only team that scares me in there. dolphins and bills are a joke, pats havent made any big moves yet so yuh jets look scary so far khed.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 13,2010 1:04pm
I will agree that the Jets are the only other East team that's formidable....but people need to relax

this is a different offseason than we're all used to seeing....after the draft, teams are gonna start cleaning house to make sure that they comply with whatever is decided on under the new CBA...when that happens, I expect the Pats to make some major moves



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 13,2010 1:37pm
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
I will agree that the Jets are the only other East team that's formidable....but people need to relax

this is a different offseason than we're all used to seeing....after the draft, teams are gonna start cleaning house to make sure that they comply with whatever is decided on under the new CBA...when that happens, I expect the Pats to make some major moves


NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!! BRADY IS DONE!! SIGN JEFF GEORGE NAO!!!!!!! DARIUS BUTLER DIDN'T MAKE THE PRO BOWL IN HIS ROOKIE SEASON!! HE'S A BUSST!!! TRADE HIM FOR A 7TH ROUND PICK AND SIGN TYRONE POOLE!!!!



toggletoggle post by DreadKill  at Apr 13,2010 1:42pm
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
awesome.....I really like McCluster
i want them to get him and sign dexter mccleon so fans will be confused and brady can pick on mccleon every day in practice and make him relive the rams' super bowl loss over and over again.



toggletoggle post by DreadKill  at Apr 13,2010 1:46pm
xmikex said[orig][quote]
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
I will agree that the Jets are the only other East team that's formidable....but people need to relax

this is a different offseason than we're all used to seeing....after the draft, teams are gonna start cleaning house to make sure that they comply with whatever is decided on under the new CBA...when that happens, I expect the Pats to make some major moves


NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!! BRADY IS DONE!! SIGN JEFF GEORGE NAO!!!!!!! DARIUS BUTLER DIDN'T MAKE THE PRO BOWL IN HIS ROOKIE SEASON!! HE'S A BUSST!!! TRADE HIM FOR A 7TH ROUND PICK AND SIGN TYRONE POOLE!!!!
that's a spot-on impersonation of all the dumb sports fans in the northeast. it could pretty much be any sports fan in boston, ny, or philly (if you switch out the players for ny or philly players).



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 13,2010 3:44pm
This just in!! tom brady rapes college douche, says she doesn't mind! More at 11.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 13,2010 5:51pm
this guy?


what a pussy



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 13,2010 8:55pm
DreadKill said[orig][quote]
xmikex said[orig][quote]
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
I will agree that the Jets are the only other East team that's formidable....but people need to relax

this is a different offseason than we're all used to seeing....after the draft, teams are gonna start cleaning house to make sure that they comply with whatever is decided on under the new CBA...when that happens, I expect the Pats to make some major moves


NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!! BRADY IS DONE!! SIGN JEFF GEORGE NAO!!!!!!! DARIUS BUTLER DIDN'T MAKE THE PRO BOWL IN HIS ROOKIE SEASON!! HE'S A BUSST!!! TRADE HIM FOR A 7TH ROUND PICK AND SIGN TYRONE POOLE!!!!
that's a spot-on impersonation of all the dumb sports fans in the northeast. it could pretty much be any sports fan in boston, ny, or philly (if you switch out the players for ny or philly players).



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Apr 13,2010 9:45pm
whatever Jets still scare me.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 13,2010 9:48pm
They would. Nancy boy.



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Apr 13,2010 9:53pm
you're just plain awful.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 13,2010 10:45pm
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
this guy?


what a pussy


Kraft probably thought he was an alcoholic and insisted Belichick take him.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 14,2010 8:35am
ok Brandon Marshall to the Phins for this year's and next year's 2nd rounders


..........................................



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Apr 14,2010 8:43am
yuh whatevers they still aren't a threat to me.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 14,2010 9:47am
Chad Henne still sucks, but here's what should worry the rest of the AFC East...

Johnathan Wilhite, Cromartie, Revis, Shaun Springs, Most of the Bills secondary... none of those guys can tackle worth shiiiiiiiiiiiit. If Henne can get the ball to Marshall even on a check route matched up against the right guys that's an extra 20 in YAC right there.

Look at the top 10 guys in yards after the catch in 2009 and notice how many of them are WR's. There are only 2 WR's in the top 5 and Marshall is one of them. The guy has the ability to turn into Jim Brown in the open field when dudes start trying to shoulder check him.

I'd like to say he's a crappy fit for the run-first homo wildcat offense the Dolphins use, but it's tough to say. They haven't had a real receiver in forever. They could be really dangerous... for about 4 weeks and then Ronnie Brown will be hurt, Ricky Williams will be hurt, Pat White will still manage 8 snaps for the whole season, and whatever team picks up Joey Porter will have to deal with him giving Chad Henne a concussion.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 14,2010 9:59am
don't the Cards have Porter now?



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 14,2010 10:00am
Tom Brady traded to Hollywood for Gary Busey, AKA Doctor Teeth..





toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 14,2010 10:10am
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
don't the Cards have Porter now?


Yup



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 14,2010 1:57pm
There's an unsupported rumor on the PFT comments claiming that the Pats have exchanged ideas with the 49ers about moving up to the 13th pick in exchange for the 22nd and a 2nd rounder.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 14,2010 2:34pm
smokescreen most likely

I'd actually want them to move up to the 49ers other pick at #17 to get Graham



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 20,2010 2:26pm



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 20,2010 4:03pm
People are already making the Galloway comparisons. When the Pats picked up Stonehands he was coming off a 9 game 15 reception season. Holt isn't a starting WR anymore but he's coming off a productive 15 game 722 yard season in Jacksonville of all places. He's a football player, and a character guy who never quit on any of the shitty teams he played for.

I like it.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 20,2010 5:35pm
....and yet another reason why I think Darius Butler is gonna be a great player....Butler tweeted this in reaction to the Holt signing:

"Excited to have him on the squad," Butler wrote. "Another vet WR's brain I can pick."

you couldn't ask for a better reaction to a veteran signing from a 2nd year player



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 20,2010 7:32pm
I approve of this signing. Holt is no Galloway and should actually produce this season.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 21,2010 12:41pm
draft preview is at 33 players and will be up today. I'll be adding later round guys as the draft progresses and teams reset their boards.



toggletoggle post by xmikex nli at Apr 21,2010 4:27pm



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 21,2010 7:42pm edited Apr 21,2010 7:52pm
other than 3 player omissions (Golden Tate, Jahvid Best, Demaryius Thomas), a fantastic job

and another thing, GET OUT OF MY HEAD!

....and thanks for the mention, it makes me look SMRT



toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 21,2010 7:48pm
that fucking blog kicks ass mike.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 21,2010 10:11pm
One guy I forgot in that post earlier....don't sleep on Brandon LaFell...find holes in zones like its nobody's business



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 21,2010 10:58pm
Pires thanks dude.

I originally didn't plan on profiling a ton of WRs simply because I thought a couple of them would be off the board by 44. But Miami is out of the WR game, and so is Baltimore. So the run on the position presumably starts later, and the whole thing shifts. Golden Tate definitely belongs in the blog though, and Thomas too.

From what I've been reading about Best is that he's still kind of messed up (physically and mentally) from the concussion.

LaFell has talented hands, but he couldn't outrun Conan O'Brien. He's knocked himself out of 1st round consideration though and is a potential value pickup later.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 21,2010 11:08pm
I didn't know that about Best...I was watching vids of him and was like "how is he not a 1st rounder?" ....that would explain why


and yes, LaFell isn't the fastest, but I think his ability to work zones, along with the fact that he isn't afraid to block/get physical makes him a very good prospect



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 21,2010 11:45pm
I remember watching this game and thinking the dude was dead for a minute:


bennyhillifier

Great reaction by the coach too.

I added Tate to the blog. I'll add Best, Thomas, and a few more I have in mind after the draft boards reset. Neither of them are going in the first round.

And I'll also go on record saying that if we're trading up for anyone it should be Derrick Morgan.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 8:40am
WOW! I never saw that before...that was vicious


you really think Morgan fits the Pats' defense? cause I don't know if I do....I'm not knocking him cause he's definitely a great player, but I don't know



toggletoggle post by mikexmike in the studio at Apr 22,2010 12:59pm


hoping. 6 hours till draft. Pats have predicting they'll be picking around 9:30. Belichick, deliver us from evil.



toggletoggle post by tylor  at Apr 22,2010 1:20pm
dez bryant
dez bryant
dez bryant
dez bryant
dez bryant
dez bryant
dez bryant
dez bryant



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 1:27pm
if Dez is there at 22 I like it...only guy I think they should trade up for though is Graham



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 7:08pm
20 or so minutes away foooooooooooooooools



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 7:30pm
LMAO: Kindle reportedly suffers from narcolepsy

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/extra_points/

I don't believe it even though I don't like the guy



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 7:32pm
Let the mayhem begin!



toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 22,2010 7:41pm
Bradford to the rams. This kid is going to get killed in st. louis. No line protection. A mediocre defense meaning they'll be throwing the ball constantly. They had to do it, but I see this kid struggling a lot and losing confidence.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 7:46pm
I'm really curious as to exactly what the Browns offered for the #1 spot considering the rumor is they offered "most of their picks." If the Browns were coughing a first a second and more then honestly the Rams deserve to lose for another year. Marc Bulger is a pussy, but O line is their absolute biggest need, and neither Bradford or Jackson will do anything but goto the emergency room with their current depth chart.

Fuck yeah to the Lions landing Suh and bringing them 1 step closer to turning that team around.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 7:47pm
....which is why David Carr was a bust IMO...had no line with Houston



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 7:48pm
I LOVE Darnell Dockett

DARNELL DOCKETT ddockett

"FRESH MEAT" "FRESH MEAT" "FRESH MEAT" "FRESH MEAT" "FRESH MEAT" "FRESH MEAT" "FRESH MEAT" "FRESH MEAT" "FRESH MEAT" "FRESH MEAT" 6 minutes ago via UberTwitter



toggletoggle post by mattkings at Apr 22,2010 7:49pm
Golden Tate



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 7:50pm
Rev can we please have this thread update in real time? GAWD.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 7:51pm
lol I know right?



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 7:59pm
Another gem from Dockett:

As much as I hate U of F I'd take TIM TEBOW sam bradford and Mc coy both fragile is hell they both took hits and folded like a lawn chair!!



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 8:00pm
TRENT "SILVERBACK" WILLIAMS?!?

I think Goodell just got racial



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 8:03pm
lol I actually said out loud "what the fuck? SILVERBACK?!" when he said that.
Rusty, whats your facebook?
Also, the Rev will never support anything involving organized sports so we're lucky this hasn't been changed into a dildo appreciation thread.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 8:05pm
Dankill said[orig][quote]
lol I actually said out loud "what the fuck? SILVERBACK?!" when he said that.
Rusty, whats your facebook?
Also, the Rev will never support anything involving organized sports so we're lucky this hasn't been changed into a dildo appreciation thread.


http://www.facebook.com/RustyHYEO



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 8:06pm
Schefter had Berry going to the Seahawks less than 5 minutes ago and he's already wrong.



toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 22,2010 8:06pm
There is NO way Carroll is taking Clausen.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 8:12pm
Berry to the Chiefs. Smart pick? I think so.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 8:12pm
Seattle will go OT. No question.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 8:13pm
xmikex said[orig][quote]
Seattle will go OT. No question.


They will cum on their own chests.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 8:14pm
SkinSandwich said[orig][quote]
Berry to the Chiefs. Smart pick? I think so.


Who was the centerpiece of the Pioli era Pats defense? #37. You could say that's its an un-Pioli move taking a safety so high, but he knows that the kind of defense he wants to see out there starts with a safety that can make people afraid. Very nice pick for the Chiefs.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 8:16pm
Anyone following this via Twitter? List some players worth following.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 8:16pm
SkinSandwich said[orig][quote]
xmikex said[orig][quote]
Seattle will go OT. No question.


They will cum on their own chests.
this thread just got sexy



toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 22,2010 8:20pm
Oakland is going to draft Drew Bledsoe.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 8:21pm
Pires said[orig][quote]
Oakland is going to draft Drew Bledsoe.


I luled but the future of the Pats depends on how poorly the Raiders can draft this year.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 8:22pm
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
SkinSandwich said[orig][quote]
xmikex said[orig][quote]
Seattle will go OT. No question.


They will cum on their own chests.
this thread just got sexy
Rookie hazing FTW



toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 22,2010 8:23pm
Oakland will fuck it up somehow. That team ALWAYS makes the worst decisions.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 8:24pm
Raiders supposedly deciding between Spiller and Iupati.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 8:25pm
RAIDERS ON THE CLOCK COME ON TAYLOR MAYS



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 8:26pm



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 8:27pm
Evil Dead here



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 8:29pm
OH SHIT OAKLAND



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 8:29pm
I feel so bad for McClain



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 8:30pm
This just in: The Giants are pissed



toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 22,2010 8:30pm
McClain is a good
player. But that defense was decent. They needed offense. Anything offense.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 8:30pm
Rolondo McClain.... great player..... also plays the same position as their best defensive player.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 8:31pm
Pires said[orig][quote]
McClain is a good
player. But that defense was decent. They needed offense. Anything offense.


hahah they've drafted QB, RB, WR in that order with top 10 picks the last 3 years.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 8:31pm
xmikex said[orig][quote]
Rolondo McClain.... great player..... also plays the same position as their best defensive player.

....which is why I hope Belichick is on the phone with Davis right now trading for Kirk Morrison



toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 22,2010 8:31pm
What!?!?!? Spiller to the bills!?!?!



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 8:32pm
hahaha and the Bills blow their chance at a real quarterback yet again



toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 22,2010 8:33pm
xmikex said[orig][quote]
Pires said[orig][quote]
McClain is a good
player. But that defense was decent. They needed offense. Anything offense.


hahah they've drafted QB, RB, WR in that order with top 10 picks the last 3 years.


lol and failed at all of them



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 8:34pm
the Bills just made the dumbest pick ever....they have holes at the 3 most important positions on the field and they pick a RB when they have Lynch and Jackson already



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 8:34pm
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
xmikex said[orig][quote]
Rolondo McClain.... great player..... also plays the same position as their best defensive player.

....which is why I hope Belichick is on the phone with Davis right now trading for Kirk Morrison


Belichick is on the phone with Oakland right now trading Darren McFadden for a sack of flour.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 8:35pm
Bill Belichick: "Ok, onto Buffalo, we stop the run...........that's about it, guys."



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 8:36pm
xmikex said[orig][quote]
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
xmikex said[orig][quote]
Rolondo McClain.... great player..... also plays the same position as their best defensive player.

....which is why I hope Belichick is on the phone with Davis right now trading for Kirk Morrison


Belichick is on the phone with Oakland right now trading Darren McFadden for a sack of flour.
McFadden and Morrison for maroney and a 7th rounder?

Al Davis: "I.......LLLLLLLLLLOVE......that trade.....do it NOW!" *Dr. Claw music plays*



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 8:38pm
Mike, your boy Tyson just got snatched. Jacksonville, reach much???



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 8:39pm
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
xmikex said[orig][quote]
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
xmikex said[orig][quote]
Rolondo McClain.... great player..... also plays the same position as their best defensive player.

....which is why I hope Belichick is on the phone with Davis right now trading for Kirk Morrison


Belichick is on the phone with Oakland right now trading Darren McFadden for a sack of flour.
McFadden and Morrison for maroney and a 7th rounder?

Al Davis: "I.......LLLLLLLLLLOVE......that trade.....do it NOW!" *Dr. Claw music plays*
GO GO GADGET RETARDED TRADE



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 8:39pm
Alualu to the Jags. Unbelievable.



toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 22,2010 8:39pm
9ers are taking clausen



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 8:40pm
Dankill said[orig][quote]
Mike, your boy Tyson just got snatched. Jacksonville, reach much???
I think Alualu is gonna be a great player....but that's a HUGE reach



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 8:43pm
Pires said[orig][quote]
9ers are taking clausen
But they jump up only two slots to get him? You think they were nervious about Denver getting him? Otherise, why make that jump?



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 8:43pm
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
Dankill said[orig][quote]
Mike, your boy Tyson just got snatched. Jacksonville, reach much???
I think Alualu is gonna be a great player....but that's a HUGE reach


I completely 100% agree. He's a solid player who plays with a ton of heart. But 10th overall? 2nd time in the last 3 years they're reached on a DE and their defense still hasn't recovered from losing Marcus Stroud.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 8:44pm
Davis is an AWFUL pick



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 8:44pm
Anthony Davis. I was gonna say, Clausen would make no sense to do that.



toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 22,2010 8:46pm
Dankill said[orig][quote]
Pires said[orig][quote]
9ers are taking clausen
But they jump up only two slots to get him? You think they were nervious about Denver getting him? Otherise, why make that jump?


I could see Denver taking him. Orton is not the future. And mcdaniels could breed clausen.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 8:48pm
I don't like this Chargers trading to 12



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 8:50pm
I just heard Rusty's heart break.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 8:50pm
Damn, Mathews went fast.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 8:50pm
another reach



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 8:51pm
another fucking trade



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 8:54pm
my explanation of the Mathews pick: the Chargers were scared shitless that Seattle would take him



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 8:55pm
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 8:56pm
Did I hear right... the Chargers gave up their 1st, 2nd and a 4th for the 12th overall? WTF.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 8:56pm
SHIT! EAGLES TAKE GRAHAM



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 8:57pm
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK



toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 22,2010 8:59pm
That was a great pick. Graham is a fucking beast.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 9:00pm
Chargers don't pick again until 91. Meanwhile the Eagles trade 2 third rounders to get into the 13th spot to get Brandon Graham. What the fuck is going on here?



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 9:00pm
I am not happy right now



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 9:02pm
This is a seriously weird draft. Sucks Graham is gone, but what is with these teams trading so much to move up? This only makes me wonder if Bill is in the bunker thinking of new ways to screw teams in light of these latest deals.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 9:03pm
Realpatriots says the Pats draft room phone has finally started ringing.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 9:05pm



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 9:05pm
Earl Thomas to the Seahawks. BLACK POWER!



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 9:06pm
Dankill said[orig][quote]
This is a seriously weird draft. Sucks Graham is gone, but what is with these teams trading so much to move up? This only makes me wonder if Bill is in the bunker thinking of new ways to screw teams in light of these latest deals.


He will make out with Eva Braun then shoot himself.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 9:11pm
SkinSandwich said[orig][quote]
Dankill said[orig][quote]
This is a seriously weird draft. Sucks Graham is gone, but what is with these teams trading so much to move up? This only makes me wonder if Bill is in the bunker thinking of new ways to screw teams in light of these latest deals.


He will make out with Eva Braun then shoot himself.


bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 9:16pm
Titans HAVE to take Morgan here



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 9:18pm
Peter King:
Great that Pierre-Paul had a good 40 since as we know, pass-rush is all about running straight with nothing in your way.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 9:18pm
The Titans are pissed. I am sure they wanted Pierre-Paul. Let's see who they pick now.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 9:19pm
So who will the Patriots pick?



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 9:24pm
Iupati to the 9ers



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 9:25pm
Iupati is a GRABBER! that shit's dirty



toggletoggle post by DreadKill  at Apr 22,2010 9:28pm
I know I'm late to the party, but the bills are retarded. That's what you get when you hire buddy nix as your gm. Wouldn't clausen have been the logical pick?



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 9:29pm
The Steelers just drafted a huge fucking necklace



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 9:35pm
Wilson here I think



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 9:36pm
Dankill said[orig][quote]
The Steelers just drafted a huge fucking necklace


They drafted a center in the 1st round. That is LOL. He will snap the ball to their non existent rapey QB.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 9:37pm
Pats 1 pick away. For the first time ever I have NO IDEA what the fuck they're going to do.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 9:37pm
wow...not that Jackson's bad...but the consensus was Wilson is better



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 9:37pm
xmikex said[orig][quote]
Pats 1 pick away. For the first time ever I have NO IDEA what the fuck they're going to do.


Hopefully defense.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 9:38pm
xmikex said[orig][quote]
Pats 1 pick away. For the first time ever I have NO IDEA what the fuck they're going to do.
I'm praying for Odrick or a trade back at this point



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 9:38pm
SkinSandwich said[orig][quote]
Dankill said[orig][quote]
The Steelers just drafted a huge fucking necklace


They drafted a center in the 1st round. That is LOL. He will snap the ball to their non existent rapey QB.
It was a literal statement also. Did you see the size of the bling on that guy's neck? He's loving that Steelers money just to make payments on that thing.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 9:39pm
This entire draft has made NO SENSE. I'm mesmerized. I'd take Dez Bryant though.



toggletoggle post by DreadKill  at Apr 22,2010 9:39pm
Bengals are going to take Dez Bryant and ruin my draft night



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 9:40pm
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
xmikex said[orig][quote]
Pats 1 pick away. For the first time ever I have NO IDEA what the fuck they're going to do.
I'm praying for Odrick or a trade back at this point
Backed. Just remembered that neither the Bears or Panthers have a first. Maybe they might get silly to make that leap



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 9:40pm
Bungles pick is in. Here come the Pats!



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 9:41pm
knew it Cinci



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 9:41pm
my GOD!!!



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 9:41pm
Broncos From Patriots



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 9:42pm edited Apr 22,2010 9:42pm
24: Patriots (From Eagles through Broncos)



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 9:42pm
Josh McDaniels: Bill.............
Bill: Yeah yeah, I got you



toggletoggle post by DreadKill  at Apr 22,2010 9:43pm
Fuckin a, I knew bill was going to trade the pick. I hope you like the mountains, dezzy



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 9:44pm
Thomas over Dez?

plus what did the Pats get?



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 9:44pm
Denver takes Bryant. NE takes Odrick. Calling it.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 9:45pm
Hope we got another 2nd for that



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 9:45pm
4th rounder on top of #24



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 9:45pm
I hope bible thumper Tebow does not go until the 200th round, gets drafted by the Lions and blows out both knees in the first play of the first game.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 9:45pm
that's not too shabby



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 9:46pm
I guess Demaryius is gonna like the mountians



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 9:46pm
Or Thomas... same thing.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 9:47pm
We needed that 4th rounder without a 3rd or a 5th.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 9:48pm
Patriotsinsider is tweeting that it's a 3rd round pick. Everyone else says 4th.



toggletoggle post by DreadKill  at Apr 22,2010 9:49pm
We could still get Bryant!



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 9:49pm
I just noticed on the Pats schedule that they do not have 2 home games in a row at all this season. The league really hates the Patriots. WTF?



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 9:50pm
Schefter says the Pats are going defense.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 9:51pm
ya know what? I still want Odric, but Bryant would be a huge steal at 24



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 9:51pm
We play the Lions though on Thanksgiving in Detroit, so the Pats will have a field day then.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 9:52pm
and here we go again....



toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 22,2010 9:57pm
Bryant is going in the next 3 picks.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 9:58pm
TRADE TO THE COWBOYS! I KNEW IT!



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 9:58pm
TRADE AGAIN!



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 9:58pm
kiss Odrick and Bryant goodbye



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 9:58pm
what the fuck. Bryant will be gone.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 9:58pm
Dallas wanted to jump Baltimore for Dez



toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 22,2010 9:59pm
Lol pats trade AGAIN. Bryant to the 'boys.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 10:02pm
PFT via Twitter:

Deion makes an appearance on the edge of the stage, and he's booed off of it.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 10:03pm
maybe BMore goes after a TE to make up for no Dez. or a Corner?



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 10:03pm
here's my hope for the next 3 picks:

Kyle Wilson
Sergio Kindle
jared Odrick



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 10:04pm
Pats get #27 and #90 for the 1st rounder



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 10:04pm
WOAH! DENVER ON THE CLOCK



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 10:05pm
WTF?! TEBOW TO THE BRONCOS?!



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 10:05pm
YOU'VE GOT TO BE SHITTING ME - TEBOW IS GOING IN THE FIRST



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 10:05pm
TEBOW OVER CLAUSEN?!?!?!?!?1



toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 22,2010 10:06pm
Wow.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 10:06pm
I hope Tim Tebow suffocates on the thin air in Denver.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 10:06pm
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 10:09pm
Clausen to the Vikings maybe?



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 10:09pm
I hope Tim Tebows mother gets caught finger banging herself to pictures of aborted fetuses in Mile High stadiums ladies room.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 10:11pm edited Apr 22,2010 10:12pm
Dankill said[orig][quote]
Clausen to the Vikings maybe?


Maybe to the Cardinals on this next pick as Leinert sucks cocks??



toggletoggle post by DreadKill  at Apr 22,2010 10:12pm
Denver is stupid. Shouldve taken clausen or grabbed McCoy in the 2nd.



toggletoggle post by MillenialKingdom  at Apr 22,2010 10:12pm
Most retarded draft ever. Tebow won't ever play. Denver just traded for Brady Quinn, why pick Tebow??

Dez Bryant would have been nice but the Pats need lineman.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 10:12pm
Iam praying to whatever god or devil that exist or doesn't that the Cards take Kindle



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 10:14pm
Arizona absolutely needs to draft Clausen. Leinart is a lost cause.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 10:15pm
Schefter is saying Dan Williams to AZ



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 10:16pm
xmikex said[orig][quote]
Schefter is saying Dan Williams to AZ


Fuck.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 10:18pm
Williams is a NT. We already have the best nose tackle in the goddamn league.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 10:19pm
great pick...but FUCK Kindle is sitting there



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 10:22pm
Schefter says it's Devin McCourty



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 10:22pm
PICK IS IN



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 10:23pm
xmikex said[orig][quote]
Williams is a NT. We already have the best nose tackle in the goddamn league.


I didn't mean we should take him. I was refering to they should have taken Claussen.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 10:25pm edited Apr 22,2010 10:26pm
I do not like this pick by the Patriots at all. This kid does not have many int's in his college career. Good on special teams, but come on.



toggletoggle post by DreadKill  at Apr 22,2010 10:29pm
Weird pick



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 10:29pm
SkinSandwich said[orig][quote]
I do not like this pick by the Patriots at all. This kid does not have many int's in his college career. Good on special teams, but come on.
no corner has a lot of picks in college....I don't hate the pick, but I like Odrick a lot more



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 10:29pm
The Pats finally have a corner who can play man, and a return guy. The corner back depth chart is absolutely awful beyond their Darius Butler (and I do not count Shaun Springs as above Butler). I didn't believe in Kindle and I didn't believe in Kyle Wilson. I don't love this pick but I don't hate it.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 10:30pm
Odrick to the fish. WTF



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 10:31pm
Odrick to the fins will come back to haunt us. I would have taken Odrick over McCourty any day of the week.



toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 22,2010 10:34pm
Odrick was an excellent steal. He's a bull. Clausen has to go to Minn. Lol. If not, TB will grab him tomorrow.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 10:35pm
a buddy made a good point: the Pats passing on Odrick knowing the Phins are waiting in the wings behind them means that there is obviously something Belichick does not like about odrick



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 10:35pm
Sam Elliott hates the Patriots pick.




toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 22,2010 10:37pm
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
a buddy made a good point: the Pats passing on Odrick knowing the Phins are waiting in the wings behind them means that there is obviously something Belichick does not like about odrick


and belichick was right about Chad Jackson and Maroney too.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 10:37pm
so the Jets are gonna play nickel on every down?



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 10:38pm
Pires said[orig][quote]
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
a buddy made a good point: the Pats passing on Odrick knowing the Phins are waiting in the wings behind them means that there is obviously something Belichick does not like about odrick


and belichick was right about Chad Jackson and Maroney too.

I'm not saying.......I'm just saying



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 10:40pm
THAT is the DB we should have taken. Kyle Wilson. The Jets, I hate to say, will be sick this year.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 10:40pm
Can someone remind me what we got in return for those two trade downs?



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 10:41pm
Dankill said[orig][quote]
Can someone remind me what we got in return for those two trade downs?


A kick in the teeth.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 10:42pm
Dankill said[orig][quote]
Can someone remind me what we got in return for those two trade downs?


A 3rd a 4th and a guy who'd better be the next Rod Woodson if he knows what's good for him.



toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 22,2010 10:45pm
Who could the lions possibly want to trade up 4 picks?



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 10:46pm
Jahvid best apparently



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 10:47pm
so now we have a 3rd and two 4ths?



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 10:47pm
Lions trade up to get Jahvid Best... a guy who no one wanted at 30... and still don't have an offensive line.



toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 22,2010 10:47pm
No faith in Smith already?



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 10:48pm
Darius Butler likes the McCourty pick



toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 22,2010 10:50pm
Detroit gave up a lot. For moving up 4 slots, Best wouldve still been there. They lose out on their 2nd, 4th and a later pick. They should have just waited or taken kindle.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 10:54pm
Pires said[orig][quote]
No faith in Smith already?


He's already destroyed... because they don't have an offensive line.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 11:00pm
Saints draft Clausen. It's the only thing that makes sense in this stupid draft.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 11:08pm
I'm kinda in shock right now....this draft was a mindfuck



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 11:10pm edited Apr 22,2010 11:10pm
I am sure the 2nd round tomorrow night will make a bit more sense. Nah, it won't. Pats will get Kindle which doesn't make sense either, so it will happen.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 11:13pm
if they don't take Damian Williams tomorrow I might slit my own throat



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 11:16pm
I hope Belly isn't losing his touch.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 11:18pm
Patriots trade their entire starting lineup to takeover the entire 3rd round... then trade it for next years third round.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 22,2010 11:18pm
I have a feeling they could grab either him or Golden Tate tomorrow. They WILL get a pass rusher tomorrow or my head is gonna explode.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 11:30pm
Tom Jackson hates the Tebow move.

lolz



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 22,2010 11:33pm
Mike Reiss
Say this about Devin McCourty, he has good change of direction skills. He was in bathroom during pick, but managed to bolt out and get phone


I actually was especially impressed with McCourty at the combine. I had actually put down some notes on his explosiveness and great body control... I just didn't think he'd go in the first. Apparently he and Belichick watched film together at Rutgers too.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 22,2010 11:39pm
I will say again. I want the Houston Oilers to come back.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 22,2010 11:55pm
the more I think about this pick, the more I'm disappointed....Odrick is sitting right there at 27 with the Dolphins waiting for you to pass on him and you do for a guy from what I've seen is nothing more than a great returner and special teamer ala Ellis Hobbs meets Matt Slater? all the while you give up on Dez Bryant twice?

I will scratch my head until I reach my brain over this one

and this is making me want Damian Williams that much more...he is perfect for this offense, and if they pass on him, I might show up to Gillette Stadium high on anger and liquor with a gun ala Bad Boys 2



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 23,2010 12:16am
while I'm still bumming about this pick, Tim Graham from ESPNBoston.com raises an excellent point:

"Why the Patriots took him: You never can have enough cornerbacks, and the AFC East is turning into an aerial division. The New York Jets will field an offense that features Braylon Edwards, Santonio Holmes and Jerricho Cotchery. The Miami Dolphins recently added Brandon Marshall."

....but still, Wilson is seemingly the better talent and HE was sitting there too



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 23,2010 12:25am
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england...36/belichick-likes-four-down-player

Patriots coach Bill Belichick said he was prepared to select Rutgers cornerback Devin McCourty with the 22nd overall pick, but the team traded back with the thinking that they could get him at 27 and receive a mid-round draft choice.

“At the end of the round there, things came out about as well as we could have hoped for,” he said.







*sigh*



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 23,2010 8:41am
I just heard on the radio in the car Belichick said he was "The best Value" at the time. That really does not say much about this pick.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 23,2010 8:58am
If you go to the link I posted belichick said this couldn't have turned out better



toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 23,2010 6:06pm
Round 2 nillas!!!!



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 23,2010 6:32pm
ROUND TWO - BACK TO WORK!!!!!



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 23,2010 6:33pm
Kyle Wilson, I really do believe, is a hype pick. He's got a bigger set of balls on him than Cromartie though.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 23,2010 6:40pm
Absolutely stunned the Browns passed on Clausen twice. Jim Brown knew it too.



toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 23,2010 6:46pm
I'm surprised the browns took a DB instead of Clausen as well. Holmgren likes to breed his own QB and this team needs one badly. As well as some WR help. And RB. And O-line. They just suck.



toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 23,2010 6:47pm
Buffalo better take clausen.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 23,2010 6:51pm
Fuck you Miami. I wanted Misi.



toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 23,2010 6:52pm
And they took a DT out of UCF with 35 tackles.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 23,2010 6:54pm
Realpatriots twitter says "the phones have come alive" in the Patriots draft room.

STOP FUCKING AROUND AND MAKE THE GODDAMN PICK WE DON'T NEED ANYMORE 5TH ROUNDERS



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 23,2010 6:54pm
oh and Bills choke again.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 23,2010 6:56pm
OH FUCK PATRIOTS TRADE UP TO THE RAIDERS PICK
IT'S GOTTA BE WILLIAMS



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 23,2010 6:57pm
Waiting on a commercial. You know baltimore wants a WR. It's gotta be Williams.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 23,2010 7:00pm
if it is, I'll have my first smile of the draft!



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 23,2010 7:00pm
Gronkowski. I'll fucking take it. Great pass catcher and unlike Gresham he can block.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 23,2010 7:01pm
I'm not gonna boo that. If he does what he did in college, dude could be a killer at TE



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 23,2010 7:03pm
All we need now is Toby Gerhart and Eric Decker and we'll have the all-white boy offence. lol



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 23,2010 7:05pm
Kindle's a Raven. Now we gotta see if he makes Mike's overrrated list and/or if the rumors about medical problems are true.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 23,2010 7:06pm
hahaha we'll be the Tom Yawkey era red sox of the NFL.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 23,2010 7:07pm
Dankill said[orig][quote]
Kindle's a Raven. Now we gotta see if he makes Mike's overrrated list and/or if the rumors about medical problems are true.


Kindle must have performed great in the "Commit a flagrant personal foul and then complain the referees don't like you" drills in the combine for the Ravens to like him so much.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 23,2010 7:10pm
Belichick on the phone talkng trades again. STOPPP



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 23,2010 7:11pm
Pats at 47. Who will they grab? I bet a black guy.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 23,2010 7:11pm
Word is the Pats have traded down.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 23,2010 7:12pm
"The Patriots have acquired picks #58 and #89 from Arizona in exchange for #47. #fb"

NOOOOOOOOOO



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 23,2010 7:14pm
They must be pretty confident about key guys dropping to the lower part of the second round.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 23,2010 7:16pm
Dankill said[orig][quote]
They must be pretty confident about key guys dropping to the lower part of the second round.


Yeah that strategy has worked out brilliantly so far.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 23,2010 7:20pm
Panthers take Clausen. Makes total sense



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 23,2010 7:21pm
xmikex said[orig][quote]
Dankill said[orig][quote]
They must be pretty confident about key guys dropping to the lower part of the second round.


Yeah that strategy has worked out brilliantly so far.
Hey, I'm just sayin'. Bill's being ballsy today. Hopefully he scores some gems.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 23,2010 7:35pm
Pats 2 picks away. No trade rumors. Give me williams with 53 and Carrington with 57 and that will be a sick 2nd round.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 23,2010 7:40pm
Jermaine Cunningham DL Florida



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 23,2010 7:52pm
I told you it would be a black guy. Like that is really a stretch.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 23,2010 8:00pm
Patriotsinsider hinting at a WR



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 23,2010 8:01pm
IT'S A TRADE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 23,2010 8:05pm
If the Pats land golden tate or williams with 62 I'll call BB a genius. But as of right now I'm pissed because I want to go out.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 23,2010 8:24pm
Brandon Spikes



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 23,2010 9:17pm
This fucking draft sucks



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Apr 23,2010 9:24pm
that's why you all should be watching the bruins/celts/sox right now.
face it, the patriots will be .500 this year at best. The jets will seal the deal and be on top in the east.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 23,2010 9:28pm
I hate this draft right now....but I will say this, the last pats draft I hated was the ty warren draft, and that was one of the best drafts ever



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 23,2010 9:48pm
Can anyone tell me who the fuck taylor price is?



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 23,2010 10:06pm
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
Can anyone tell me who the fuck taylor price is?


He is a black dude that plays football.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 24,2010 2:24am
Skinsandwich needs to be sitting there with Mel Kiper and Jon Gruden showing them who the real sonofabitch is.

I booed the Spikes pick at first because I wanted Williams. But think about it. They re-sign Wilfork, and then draft 2 3-4 linebackers inside and outside. I think that means Belichick is feeling more confident that he can get back to doing what he knows how to do on defense. All of a sudden the Patriots are a linebacker oriented team again. Spikes was in the top 20 consideration before he ran a 2 hour 40. He's a fiery player, and a huge hitter. Mayo, Spikes, Cunningham, TBC, Adalius Thomas, Tyrone McKenzie, Gary Guyton. There's a lot of potential there.

I know zero about Taylor Price beyond him being really goddamn fast, and he's supposed to be a solid route runner.



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toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 24,2010 2:28am



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 24,2010 2:35am
And holy shit. That 89th overall is for Carolina's 2nd rounder next year? That's a solid ass trade.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 24,2010 8:51am
Brandon Spikes cousin, Takeo Spikes plays for the Niners.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 24,2010 8:52am
BTW, We get to knock Colt McCoy around this season when we play the Brownies.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 24,2010 8:57am
there's a vid of Jermaine Cunningham on this page:

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2010/04/2010-nfl-draft-with-53rd-pick.html



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 24,2010 9:14am edited Apr 24,2010 9:15am
Taylor Price against Tennessee this past season:

bennyhillifier

3 observations:
1) whoever was his QB at Ohio should be pumping gas for a living when he graduates....Price was targeted 12 times in the game, only caught 4, but as you'll see in the video, every other target was a horrible throw

2) he appears to have very good hands and can take a hit

3) he blows up Eric Berry way downfield on a YAC catch by another WR, has no fear blocking LBs and DEs, and does a great job at it


I coveted Damian Williams, and I think they should've taken him over Spikes and maybe Cunningham (because they were both taken pretty high), but this guy looks like he can be something



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 24,2010 9:59am
Whenever I read a scouting report about somebody's route running ability I'm kind of like "yeah yeah yeah, some scout is being overly critical." But this guy finds the seams and angles nicely. After watching this guy's blocking abilities, the Spikes pick, the Gronkowski pick I think it's indicative of something I've been saying all along that the Pats needed to get more physical and addressing that was one of their highest overall concerns in this draft. I think they've done that so far.

And they didn't draft anybody with a goddamn knee injury.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 24,2010 10:47am
the Raiders traded Morrison to the Jags

FUCK FUCKFUCKFUCK



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 24,2010 10:51am
and the Jets just traded in front of the Pats to take Joe McKnight



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 24,2010 10:53am
AARON HERNANDEZ!

that's a steal



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 24,2010 11:00am
the Pats have a LOT of weapons now: Moss, Edelman, Holt, Price, Gronkowski, Hernandez....and from what I hear Brandon Tate has been doing the offseason program all along with no signs of a lingering injury



toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 24,2010 1:07pm
Jason Campbell to the Raiders. Leon Washington and Lendale White to the seahawks. Kirk Morrison to the Jags. Holy fucking trades batman!



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Apr 24,2010 4:22pm
Just got home from work. I like the Hernendez trade and Zoltan was who they were targeting the whole time for Punter. Question: Alan Fanica? Take or leave?



toggletoggle post by MillenialKingdom  at Apr 24,2010 8:32pm
I'm surprised the Jets released Fanica.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 24,2010 11:42pm
1. Kirk Morrison to the Jags is a great move for a team that was on the verge of trading John Henderson. They still don't have a real quarterback or an offensive line, or any fan interest. But their rushing yards allowed will certainly drop... great. I don't lament him not going to the Pats because we're stacked at inside linebacker right now.

2. I was a bit perturbed that we took a Punter in the 5th with a lot of good project corners still on the board. But Hanson is a pussy is was never consistent. Mesko averaged 45+ yards per punt at Michigan. It was a big weakness of the Pats that is now addressed.

3. Leon Washington for a 5th rounder is craziest trade since Randy Moss for a 4th. Unless Rex Ryan has info that Washington's knee is fucked up still, he's an absolute moron for turning his back on BOTH his best running backs now. Shonn Greene sucks, and Ryan is only out to prove that he can run his system with his guys not Manginis.

4. Releasing Faneca because he wouldn't take a paycut IN AN UNCAPPED YEAR is ridiculous. The same year that the Pats get meaner on their front 7 the Jets get weaker at offensive line. Works for me.

5. Hernandez is an interesting pick. He's a purely pass catching TE but fits in instantly now as a rotational #2 TE. Both Gronkowski and Hernandez have Crumpler to learn from too. Don't expect him to help out at all with the running game though.

6. So are the Patriots primed to win the SEC championship or what? 3 Florida players in the same draft? Why not just bring in Urban Meyer to be the OC? He meets my #1 overall qualification of NOT being Bill O'Brien.

7. I'd be interested to see if Belichick tries moving Gary Guyton to the outside. He's great in coverage and is the fastest LB on the team. That way you don't take any playing time away from McKenzie and Spikes in the middle. The fact that they drafted a true blue 3-4 middle linebacker in Spikes suggests to me that they actually are going to reinforce the 3-4 again and maybe move Mike Wright to DE as a stop gap solution until the 2011 draft in which we have 4 of the top 64 picks.



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toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Apr 27,2010 9:47am
Looking at the Pats schedule, barring upsets, they could, at the most go 12-4. You know though, I am honestly SICK of the Patriots playing the Colts every fucking year. I know there is a bit of a rivalry, but enough already. Honestly, the rivalry is not what it used to be.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 27,2010 10:03am
its actually because of how they both finish each year

you play your division rivals twice each, one game each against teams in one AFC conference that rotates each year, and one game each against teams in one NFC conference that rotates each year, which is 14 games...to make up the other two, you play the corresponding team in the other divisions in your conference according to where you both finish the year before

so the Pats may not play the AFC North every year but because the Pats and Colts finish in the same spot in their respective divisions every year, they play every year



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Apr 27,2010 10:14am
like every draft most fans are like "huh why him" then come regular season were like "oh thats why"



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