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returntothepit >> discuss >> Attn: Hoser and other hill people - what do I need to know to start bowhunting? by DestroyYouAlot on Mar 10,2010 2:19pm
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toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 10,2010 2:19pm
Thinking about giving this a shot this year. Fully aware that I won't be hitting a damn thing first year or so out, but ya gotta start somewhere. ('Sides, this seems like one of those skills where, if you ever actually need it, it's too late.) I have an old-school wood/composite recurve (a nice one), haven't gotten the weight checked but it's about as heavy as I'm comfortable with (it was my dad's back in the day, and he was at least as strong as I am now). Bow's in good shape, need non-shitty arrows and heads. Haven't practiced in years, but when I'm in shape I can hit a target. Thinking to start with turkeys since they're retarded and I might actually get one, LOL.

Where do I start? What's involved in getting the license? (Never legally "hunted" before, just shot critters eating the parents' garden. But I'm not squeamish about it.) Do I have provisionary permission to enter NH? LOL



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Mar 10,2010 2:22pm
Steve, come to middleboro. We have the biggest bow shop in MA and they train you on the spot with a shooting range in the back.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Mar 10,2010 2:24pm
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
Thinking about giving this a shot this year.


no pun intended?



toggletoggle post by atthehaunted  at Mar 10,2010 2:26pm
Actually Trader Jan's in Fall River is the biggest.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Mar 10,2010 2:28pm
You mean they lie on their commercials? Damn them. Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised. The place is pretty cheap and good at what they do.
http://www.reedysarchery.com/



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Mar 10,2010 3:08pm
I think that recurve bow of yours may be illegal to hunt with. I may be wrong, but most states require you to use a compound bow.
I do know that you will need to take a hunters safety course and then an additional archery course for bowhunting.
I don't bowhunt because I don't have time for any more seasons and I love to hunt birds with my dogs, but best of luck to you. It warms my heart when hunting attracts new blood to our beloved sport. I wouldn't bother too much with NH if you want to hunt deer -- there's actually not as many as you think up here. Concentrate on being a suburban commando - it may not be as much of a "pristine" hunting experience, but you will have more success. You would be suprised at how many more deer there are in suburban areas - those fuckers camp out in small patches of woods and come out to eat rich peoples' flower beds at dawn/dusk. With a bow you can be stealthy, and keep the rich faggot complaints limited. Good luck!



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard, $Version=1 at Mar 10,2010 3:17pm
I went illegally on Prudence island years ago...

that is all i can contribute. Oh and there is an archery shop near my place in Dedham.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 10,2010 3:27pm
ITT: DYA prepares for the zombie apocalypse



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Mar 10,2010 3:34pm
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
ITT: DYA prepares for the zombie apocalypse


I want in. I really don't want a gun, but the idea that i won't be able to defend myself when the zombie apocalypse comes scares me.. I keep contemplating a gun.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Mar 10,2010 3:37pm
I would advise getting something. Impending chaos.
American Revolution II, WWIII, Zombie apocalypse, alien invasion. All might happen.
All I've got are Celtic daggers and some fart spray.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Mar 10,2010 3:38pm
fart spray? Like it smells like farts, or it stops the smell of farts? Well, neither seem useful anyways.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Mar 10,2010 3:41pm
It's called liquid ass. Its the most powerful thing on the market. It literally smells like ass crack, dead animals, and shit. It's so strong, people nearly puke. Check out the videos on YouTube.



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Mar 10,2010 3:51pm
Pick up a 12 gauge pump. Inexpensive, versatile and packs a whallop. Also, the sound when chambering a shell still makes me long and I've owned pump guns for 20 years.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Mar 10,2010 3:53pm
Saw off.



toggletoggle post by atthehaunted  at Mar 10,2010 3:54pm
Your bow needs to be at least 40 lb pull in order to go hunting. There's a website called archerytalk.com there's a shit load of people on it who can help you.



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Mar 10,2010 4:11pm
^yeah, hence my comment on the compound bow. That recurve you have might not make the 40lb requirement.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 10,2010 4:52pm
Just ran across that little statistic - not sure off the top of my head but I seem to recall the draw being somewhat more than that. (Researched it a little when the bow officially became mine.) Have to check it again when I get home. It's pretty burly; thing's kind of a nail driver at full extension.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Mar 10,2010 4:54pm
No offense steve, but youre more of a human warrior than ranger.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 10,2010 5:16pm
Specialization: adds point blank range category (5-30 feet); +2 damage at point blank range



toggletoggle post by TheRidersofDoom  at Mar 10,2010 5:16pm
Nashua is crawling with deer, check out some of the fields on the border with dunstable or near the airport.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Mar 10,2010 8:33pm edited Mar 10,2010 8:36pm
Ok...I don't mind helping anyone who wants to start hunting, even if you're a Masswipe.

I'll do this in steps to make it easy.

1.) You MUST attend an NRA certified hunter safety program before you can even buy a license in ANY state. They are typically free here where I live, but in Mass. expect fees because Mass. sucks.

2.) You MAY have to attend a seperate course for bow hunting, as is law for newly licensed bow hunters in the state of Maine.

3.) I would forget about your Dad's old bow altogether. An effective bow hunter carries a bow that is built to his/her exact draw length, and pound preference. Using someone elses bow is like wearing someone else's bluejeans...they may "kind of" fit, but they will never be as comfortable and downright reliable as the set that you bought off of the shelf JUST FOR YOU. It's important, believe me. You have the choice to either kill the animal, or take a slough shot and risk wounding it, possibly for the rest of it's now shortened life (i.e Coyotes, Bear.) Also, if the limbs on the bow are old, you risk breaking them, which may not only be a bummer for your Dad, but it may also blow up in your face causing injury, or if it gets your eyes...maybe blindness. When a limb snaps under that kind of pressure, it ain't pretty. It's like it fucking exploded in your hands.

4.) Recurves and longbows are NOT illegal anywhere in New England. They are completely legal, but I recommend a good compound bought from a reputable shop that will measure your exact draw length (from your non-dominant hand to your dominant ear.) Once this is measured, the poundage of the bow (typically 50-70lbs) can be adjusted to your comfort level and the level of fatigue felt at full draw for over 10 seconds. Most compounds made now are between 70% and 80% let-off. Let-off is the measurement (in percentage) of the total draw weight of the bow that is "forgiven" once the bow attains full draw length (i.e if the bow is set at 70lbs. draw weight, and the bow has 80% let-off, at full draw you will only be holding (and feeling) 14lbs. of weight. This is made possible by the use of what are known as "cams" and "wheels." Many bows are either a "cam" or a "cam and a half.) In theory, the latter will have greater let-off, and higher FPS (arrow speed.)

I can get as in depth as you want me to. Arrow choice, and weight of broadhead (in Grains) will also have a huge effect on accuracy and speed (for example...I personally shoot 100 grain G5 Montecs (broadheads) to achieve my greatest accuracy. With my current set-up (2006 Hoyt Trykon 29.5" draw 70lbs. draw weight (custom sights, quiver, arrow rest, and stabilizer), Easton Carbon Fiber arrows, and 100 grain G5 Montecs. I can put and arrow on a quarter at 20-40 yards. 40 yards is the max distance that I will personally take an animal at, that will almost guarantee me a clean kill. Most guys will only go out to 25-30 yards, some guys are superstars at 50 yards. 40 is what I'm comfortable with.

I paid about $1400 for my current set-up, as it's all custom. If you have the long-term desire, the practice (does'nt take very long with the proper amount of dedication) and the money, you will find a lifetime skill and a desire to hunt that you may have never had before.

Good luck, man!



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Mar 10,2010 8:42pm
I'd start with a large bottle of Woodford Reserve and a healthy suspicion of colored folks.



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Mar 10,2010 8:44pm
And by coloreds, I mean liberals. Synonymous, verily.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Mar 10,2010 8:58pm
Hoser, let's drink sometime.



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Mar 10,2010 9:30pm
I've been wanting to drink with Hoser for a coon's age now. Agalloch and bourbon. Repeat.



toggletoggle post by ArilliusBM  at Mar 10,2010 9:37pm
The last time I saw Hoser, he took his nuts out. I can't remember what show it was (Morbid Angel?). I think Rev took a pic of his nuts.



toggletoggle post by ancient master at Mar 10,2010 9:56pm
just dont go hunting with dick cheney



toggletoggle post by scmfck at Mar 10,2010 9:58pm
fake a permant arm injury, get dr.'s note, get crossbow legally in ma..... or you're a pussy



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 10,2010 10:00pm
in before DYYA becomes D-eYeless-A



toggletoggle post by ArilliusBM  at Mar 10,2010 10:06pm
POST PIC OF HOSER'S NUTS OR GTFO



toggletoggle post by scmfck at Mar 10,2010 10:06pm
but for reals, take the hunter safety course hoser was talking about. Won't hurt and they'll tell you how and where to get all your permits for each season. As well as getting hook ups for people who can help you out(butchers etc.) Plus i believe they're usually at sportsmans clubs that have cheap drafts so you can drink with a bunch of old times wicked cheap!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 10,2010 11:18pm
I CAN'T FUCKING BELIEVE THAT THE NRA IS TAKING AWAY MY FREEDOMS TO BEAR ARMS WHAT THE FUCK.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 11,2010 2:22am
Right to owlbear arms



toggletoggle post by ark at Mar 11,2010 9:00am
I'm willing to bet Big Boss was stronger than you dude.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Mar 11,2010 9:03am
Big Boss is a pedophile.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 11,2010 9:37am
ark said[orig][quote]
I'm willing to bet Big Boss was stronger than you dude.


Hahaha, exactly. I'll just use it to kill reticulated pythons and shit.

(Man, when the cancer finally gets him I'm gonna have the hardest time not yelling "SNNNAAAAAAAAKKKEE!!!")



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Mar 11,2010 9:39am
Wait? Big Boss as in Roots vocalist?



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Mar 11,2010 9:40am
oh, metal gear.

Root > metal gear



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 11,2010 9:52am
Got home and had a look at the bow. It's a Herter's Perfection Mag from 1977, 60" length, rated 42 lbs @ 28 inches. So, in theory, at least legal to hunt with (assuming that spec still holds true). There does seem to be a small but dedicated segment of the sport dedicated to hunting with (old) recurves, from the research I did earlier. (I'm sorta trying to prove to myself I can actually get something with an old-school bow - silly maybe, but there it is.) Well, if I don't blow it out in target practice, I guess it'll be alright.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Mar 11,2010 12:51pm
Steve of Loxley



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Mar 12,2010 11:57pm
Aril, yes...drinking is a must. And yes, I hung my balls out at the Palladium for one of Rev's random shots. I forget who was playing...



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 13,2010 9:18am
Got a couple ideas for spots and a couple people stoked on the idea of getting out there, last night. Gotta start target shooting again.



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