Other attractions will include: Slag (trippy side project from Darkwor), Drum Jam between Jimbo (Useful and Boarcorpse) and Bry (Hard No. 9), Stoner Covers, and a bunch of spaced out cretins from the area.
More info to come...
Also anyone want to donate their flyer making skills?
while I don't smoke weed....a 420 show not on 420 = a fail in booking
FOB, Scaphism, Useful Idiot, Forced Asphyxiation, Hard No. 9, and Slag makes it worth it though
post by FuckIsMySignature at Feb 27,2010 12:31am edited Feb 27,2010 12:32am
ya i figured someone would bitch about that. i thought a Saturday would be better for this kind of event. tuesday shows are rough. also tuesdays are like league pool nights there an wanted to do it at this venue cause of the...ah-hem... laid back environment.
post by RustyPS at Feb 27,2010 12:36am edited Feb 27,2010 12:36am
I'm just busting balls...like I said, I don't smoke pot
with that said, I might make an appearance for some band enjoyment and some contact high
post by FuckIsMySignature at Feb 27,2010 12:45am edited Feb 27,2010 12:45am
haha i know... bring your tape deck. we'll see what happens
ya i figured someone would bitch about that. i thought a Saturday would be better for this kind of event. tuesday shows are rough. also tuesdays are like league pool nights there an wanted to do it at this venue cause of the...ah-hem... laid back environment.
cool ... they'd fit on the bill but i'm weary of overdoing it with too many bands and too much equipt clutter. plus i'm gonna have other stuff going on. gimme a ring this weekend and we can discuss further
That dude from 18 Wheels recorded that Brutalfest show with a couple mics at the back of the room. I can get in touch with him and see if he wants to come down for the show. Those recordings came out alright, but the PA was in rough shape. Coupled with new equipment I figure it would sound a lot better.
I think the dude was fairly cheap. Didn't charge to set up and was selling the cds to bands for like 20 bucks or something right? They did play the show and he was already there though...
A mixer recording at that place is harder to pull off and that dude Eric would probably have to bring extra equipment.
i could bring our digital 8track (the one we used tom) and do a set of sterio tracks from the board, and set up mics for everthing else. I mic all the stuff pretty quick, and just record every track kinda low so nothing peeks and then mix afterwards.
pretty easy too... on the other hand, Elliot just got his new mac (w/protools) and we could mic stuff pretty quick.. then elliot could mix in his studio, probably pretty cheap... but that might be more work than it's worth.
post by Slag NLI at Mar 18,2010 3:39pm
I can set up a whole recording rig for this show if you want. Straight to disk. I would need persuasion to do so.
Would not be easy nor quick. Would require much work. I would do it for a flat fee for the entire day. Would take it back to the studio, remove any bad frequencies/get levels right/master it etc.
probably not. I mean, sure, it sounds fair. IF a live recording of this show would be worth that much... but i don't think at least MY band would want to pay enough to do that. I'd probably just bring my digi8.
And like i said, it does sound fair, but i don't think the bands playing this show want to foot that bill.
post by FuckIsMySignature at Mar 18,2010 3:49pm edited Mar 18,2010 3:50pm
eh we'll figure somethin out
post by Slag NLI at Mar 18,2010 3:59pm
If i'm not doing any technical mixing or mastering that requires hours afterward, I'd do it for less. I will be at the show anyways.
If i'm not doing any technical mixing or mastering that requires hours afterward, I'd do it for less. I will be at the show anyways.
Anyone know if the PA at OASIS is stereo or mono?
i'm not really sure, i seem to remember Sullivan saying something about it being mono, but i guess they are getting a bunch of new equipment in the upcoming weeks so there might be some drastic changes.
If it is a mono PA, I will have to bring my own. Anyone here know for certain?
What are you trying to run? And are you suggesting that you'd have to bring in all of your own equipment in terms of a PA? Everytime we try that it becomes the worst experience ever.
If it is a mono PA, I will have to bring my own. Anyone here know for certain?
What are you trying to run? And are you suggesting that you'd have to bring in all of your own equipment in terms of a PA? Everytime we try that it becomes the worst experience ever.
I just need a stereo PA. I can't do electronic music with a mono PA. ( I can but it won't be the immersive 420 experience that I would like for everyone )
I just need a stereo PA. I can't do electronic music with a mono PA. ( I can but it won't be the immersive 420 experience that I would like for everyone )
We could run dual outs into the snake and run a pan on the mixer with what we've got right now, but we should have new speakers and rackmount gear set up in time for this show.
Is everything running through a laptop or keyboard?
post by FuckIsMySignature at Mar 25,2010 1:39pm edited Mar 25,2010 1:40pm
I have this full size 300dpi 11x17 CMYK, too, so you can print these as posters.
this flyer is awesome but can i suggest a few tweaks/updates? I got like 20 color copies done at staples but its kind of hard to read the band names. Could you possibly enlarge them and make them white like "424 Fest" part? Same goes for location text on either side. \m/
That could be arranged.. I hope I have a car by then otherwise the trip will be ruff.
walk to worcester or you're a pussy
i could probably just walk to some wooded area of newton or waltham... find a cheetah in the woods, get it high. and be there in no time. iot worked for
I have this full size 300dpi 11x17 CMYK, too, so you can print these as posters.
this flyer is awesome but can i suggest a few tweaks/updates? I got like 20 color copies done at staples but its kind of hard to read the band names. Could you possibly enlarge them and make them white like "424 Fest" part? Same goes for location text on either side. \m/
after that's done, please email me the image, i can print a couple hundred of them on full color, glossy, cardstock 4x6.
The problem I see here is that the background is light, and now the font is light, so it's light on light, hence the contrast isn't working to help the legibility.
I'm assuming the printout made the background darker?
hmmmm PA system issues at this club? more likely than you think.
sacreligionmike, running dual outs to the snake and panning the mixer left and right [the right way to hookup a stereo device using individual channels BTW] wont work if your main output is in mono or if your main amp is bridged.
Slag, most small (non plug and play) PA systems are run in mono, get over it.
Also I'm guessing the person who runs the london billiards/club oasis website is the dude from dirtnap....not that it actually matters since it's impossible to find....but he only lists the dirtnap booked shows on the clubs website. this show is not listed.
the more I check out this venue the more i realize how awesome it could be......and how terrible it is. lulz.
this show will rule though. and more shows like it can only help.
I wish more was in my hands in terms of the club area. If I had it my way that PA would have been fixed up 6 months ago but I sure as shit don't have the money myself to invest into it and there's no way to get the owner to even properly fix the bathrooms let alone put another couple G's into that back room.
hmmmm PA system issues at this club? more likely than you think.
sacreligionmike, running dual outs to the snake and panning the mixer left and right [the right way to hookup a stereo device using individual channels BTW] wont work if your main output is in mono or if your main amp is bridged.
Slag, most small (non plug and play) PA systems are run in mono, get over it.
Also I'm guessing the person who runs the london billiards/club oasis website is the dude from dirtnap....not that it actually matters since it's impossible to find....but he only lists the dirtnap booked shows on the clubs website. this show is not listed.
the more I check out this venue the more i realize how awesome it could be......and how terrible it is. lulz.
this show will rule though. and more shows like it can only help.
I'm not trying to be a cunttwatbrat, but my music honestly depends on the stereo soundfield. There is no depth to ambient/electronic music if played in mono. I will be bringing my own PA unless we can verify that the OASIS is not bridged/mono. If he can pan the mixer and it actually pans in the club, that tells me it is not bridged. It has been awhile since I have been there, so I cannot remember.
is this really not on the events page? didn't realize this was the same day as the new enlgland metal fest. hope to have flyers for the june 5th doom show by this event. lineup coming soon.......
fuck the new england meh-tal and crabcore festival. this show = lulz and goodtime super good musix. smoke drugs smoke drugs smoke drugs smoke drugs smoke drugs smoke drugs smoke drugs smoke drugs smoke drugs smoke drugs smoke drugs smoke drugs smoke drugs
The thread has to be labeled as a show, and then at the top of the thread there's an option to associate it with a date on the events page.
I'm gonna talk to Tam or Uma about getting there early for this show. The club normally opens at 6 or a lil later and I'm sure bands will want to load in early and people will want the bar to be ready to go when they arrive.
post by FuckIsMySignature at Apr 9,2010 3:56pm edited Apr 9,2010 3:56pm
lol i'll post set times soon i'm just waitin on one band for information. Useful is gonna go on sometime around 9-930 and the drum jam thing will be right before it.
post by ShadowSD at Apr 19,2010 8:55pm edited Apr 19,2010 9:12pm
I'm happy to report that we WILL be playing this, there was serious doubt until just a few days ago as to whether we would even be available to play on this date (Laurel will be in California that week, unfortunately), but Casey and I are now planning a special set as a two piece, featuring instrumental metal (everything from The Call of Ktulu to Into the Lungs of Hell to original improvs) as well as some songs by Type O Negative to honor Pete Steele's passing.
What we had talked about doing as a two-piece was:
Into The Lungs of Hell
Improv Jam
The Call of Ktulu
Original or Improv
(Possibly But Not Definite: Either To Live is To Die or Orion)
Christian Woman
Red Water
Life Is Killing Me
That would be cool, I can hit the Pete Steele lows pretty well, so I can reasonably pull off those three Type O songs, but I can't do Pete's more full-range/heavier vocals for shit, so it would be wicked cool if we also had you come up for a Type O song with more oomph in the vocals to close out our set - anything in mind? I Don't Wanna Be Me? Blood and Fire? List anything you think might be cool...
Also, on the same topic, another idea Casey was throwing around was that we have you come up and sing Armageddon with us as the original song in our set.
Hey Tom, is our set still flexible enough that we can push it to an hour or is it now a strict 45 minutes as listed above? I'm looking at our list of songs above, and it's definitely closer to an hour, especially if we add an extra Type O song with Tony on vocals which I'd like us to do. (Although Casey is leaning towards us not doing a second Metallica instrumental in our set anyway, just to avoid a sense overkill, so that may solve itself by axing ten minutes). Either way, just let me know and we'll be prepared.
Just wanted to say thank you in advance, we love playing in Worcester, and we love the Oasis. We are totally thrilled about this show, and are thankful that we can do all of the album in such a good time slot. We have another show in a couple months at Ralph's that we're doing all of Lateralus.
Just wanted to say thank you in advance, we love playing in Worcester, and we love the Oasis. We are totally thrilled about this show, and are thankful that we can do all of the album in such a good time slot. We have another show in a couple months at Ralph's that we're doing all of Lateralus.
no prob jim...its always a treat when useful comes to town. expecting this to a memorable show for all bands/attendees included.
What we had talked about doing as a two-piece was:
Into The Lungs of Hell
Improv Jam
The Call of Ktulu
Original or Improv
(Possibly But Not Definite: Either To Live is To Die or Orion)
Christian Woman
Red Water
Life Is Killing Me
That would be cool, I can hit the Pete Steele lows pretty well, so I can reasonably pull off those three Type O songs, but I can't do Pete's more full-range/heavier vocals for shit, so it would be wicked cool if we also had you come up for a Type O song with more oomph in the vocals to close out our set - anything in mind? I Don't Wanna Be Me? Blood and Fire? List anything you think might be cool...
Also, on the same topic, another idea Casey was throwing around was that we have you come up and sing Armageddon with us as the original song in our set.
Either or both of these would be cool with me.
you don't have to add a song, i'll do Christian Woman or Life is Killing Me. in fact i'd really like to do Christian Woman if at all possible, that's one of my favorite songs to sing along to. Blood and Fire would work too. so would Xero Tolerance. really anything. the only album i have trouble with is October Rust, that's an album that is unique to his voice.
I'm gonna talk to Tam or Uma about getting there early for this show. The club normally opens at 6 or a lil later and I'm sure bands will want to load in early and people will want the bar to be ready to go when they arrive.
mike seems to think we can get the club open for 5 for loadin and set up. i'd like to have the show start at 6 but i left it open for a later start if necessary.
I can bring my real time cd burner to the gig, if someone can put a L/R RCA connection into it, we can do a recording. I'll supply cds too, the only issue would be capturing the things that we're not mic'ing for the board, like most of the drums/guitar/bass. Although, we could do a board input, and a room mic from on stage to capture that stuff. I dunno, i'll bring my stuff and we'll see how it works out.
Well for acoustic stuff sure, but for the louder stuff, usually the guitar/bass amps are loud enough so that only the signer and bass drum need be mic'd. For you guys though, since you're doing the more minimalist thing, you'd probably mic it all.
i talked to tom about maybe recording this at one point. he said i could if i wanted to. if you guys REALLY want it recorded i could be convinced to do it. i just need time to set up. can't do it at 6.
24 track hard disk recorder
16 channel mackie mixer
plenty of drum and instrument mics + cables
i'd have to split signals somewhere to feed vox and kick to the house
this computer is shitty, outdated and doesnt have any editing programs. so i'd either give you the .wav files (easier said than done) to do what you want with and edit/mix yourself or mix it down to 2 track off the board with some minor outboard effects, eq and compression
I know we'd love it to be done, although it's up to tom whether or not there'd be time to get it done. I dunno if the set up/break down for all the mics for everyband would take to long.
i could push up the start time of the bands to 630 but i dont really want to go later than that. i'll try to confirm with mike about getting in there for 5 to set shit up in advance.
since the levels are going to tape rather than the house i dont have to be too fussy about levels. as long as they dont clip i can adjust them later when mixing. once all the mics are set up its just a matter of putting them in front of cabs and clipping onto drums for every band.
i'd have to do some ghetto micing if someone has 4 toms or double bass.
Opening early won't be a problem. If there's someone who doesn't mind setting up the recording stuff all night then they can go right ahead and do it. We'd have to do what Josh said though and split the signal of the kick and vox so we don't overload the mains and make them sound like mud balls.
Yes. A wide range of things, most of which sound kind of cheesy but the reverb and delays are fine. As far as mic'ing guitars, we have the mics and the channels and the capabilities if need be, but if you're bringing a half-stack chances are that it will stand in the room on its own, allowing the mains to have more room to produce the vox and kick. It's bare bones but works fine if you're not trying to play your amps at 10. Snare and toms cut through alright. The main problem with the room is the wash between a tinny guitar tone and the cymbals. Hooray for mirrors everywhere on the ceiling.
If this is going to end up being a huge production with the recording and criss-crossing of PA equipment I may even ask them to open at 4...maybe not for business but to at least allow ample time to set up everything.
Also, now that I think about it our kick mic is gone all haywire and not reliable enough to last through a show this long. If anyone that's coming has one that we could use for the evening I would be much obliged to smoke copious amounts of doobage with you.
perhaps Alex or Evan can bring the one from our practice space.
post by ShadowSD at Apr 22,2010 8:19am edited Apr 22,2010 9:03am
If not, I have a good sounding kick drum mic I could bring if need be, although odds are not the same quality as the one you guys can bring (this is a nameless mic that was sixty bucks new, although it sounds better than it has any right to).
It's bare bones but works fine if you're not trying to play your amps at 10. Snare and toms cut through alright. The main problem with the room is the wash between a tinny guitar tone and the cymbals. Hooray for mirrors everywhere on the ceiling.
Good to know that the options are there if need be. Between Casey's naturally loud drumming and my atmospheric guitar tone pushing inhuman amounts of low end for a guitar versus being relatively low on the presence scale, usually things work out a lot better if we mic the half stack just for that little extra oomph. Otherwise, I can put it at the front of the stage and the crowd hears fine, but we can't hear it, or I put it at the back of the stage, and every cymbal crash cuts through the high frequencies of the chorus in the distortion like a knife, because the soundwaves are physically dissipating before they get there - so the crowd can somewhat hear it, but it slightly seems to be fading in and out obnoxiously like an unintended phaser effect. Since I'm also covering for all bass frequencies it at this particular gig, micing the guitar will be especially helpful if possible.
Good to hear there's reverb. Hall reverb is a necessary part of the slight of hand to create the illusion that my vocals are decent
I also find that adding hall reverb to the keyboards and kick always tends to enhance our sound, and (although I doubt you'll have time to do this at the show) sometimes when we're doing a particularly gothic/atmospheric song (Mourning Rain, a Type O cover, etc.) we'll even throw an extra two mics on the kit turned up very low through the board but doused heavily in hall reverb; it creates the illusion of that type of drum sound quite convincingly by adding the extra sense of depth to the toms and snare.
Yes. A wide range of things, most of which sound kind of cheesy but the reverb and delays are fine. As far as mic'ing guitars, we have the mics and the channels and the capabilities if need be, but if you're bringing a half-stack chances are that it will stand in the room on its own, allowing the mains to have more room to produce the vox and kick. It's bare bones but works fine if you're not trying to play your amps at 10. Snare and toms cut through alright. The main problem with the room is the wash between a tinny guitar tone and the cymbals. Hooray for mirrors everywhere on the ceiling.
If this is going to end up being a huge production with the recording and criss-crossing of PA equipment I may even ask them to open at 4...maybe not for business but to at least allow ample time to set up everything.
I totally agree, it's not worth putting the guitars through the PA, any amp worth it's weight in salt can be heard well in the room. As fas as snare/toms.. i think they CAN be heard, and i plan on having MINE heard, but i think a big part of that is where you're setting up the drums. I set mine up on the side, in front of the amps. And that gives them a much better chance of being heard. (You can turn the amps up, you can't turn the drums up.) Also you gotta whale on the drums, which is also up to the drummer.
With all that in mind for the drums, and some common sense for where you put the amps in relation to where the band members stand, you should have a workable stage sound for the band, and you'll have the potential for a great overall sound.
As fas as snare/toms.. i think they CAN be heard, and i plan on having MINE heard, but i think a big part of that is where you're setting up the drums. I set mine up on the side, in front of the amps. And that gives them a much better chance of being heard. (You can turn the amps up, you can't turn the drums up.) Also you gotta whale on the drums, which is also up to the drummer.
I think individual musicians matter as well because some people hit harder than others on average. With our drummer, we'd never mic the snare and toms for volume's sake (unless the room was gigantic), only for that aforementioned reverb trick, because he hits pretty hard when it comes to the heavy stuff and it would be overkill; I'd consider Matt Johnson of Despoilment another top-notch drummer with this same quality. On the other hand, I've seen plenty of good bands where a really impressive drummer had to do a ton of fast beats during a set and you could barely hear the drums for a lot of it, not because the guitar volume was ridiculous, but because the drummer wasn't the hardst hitter and was pacing himself out of necessity; in these sorts of situations, it sounds great if the snare and toms are mic'd but fairly lacking otherwise. There are also times as a soundguy when I've had to turn up the kick drum microphone five times as loud for a particular band that I really liked because their drummer muffled it a lot and didn't hit it too hard - and I always had to adjust a bit for each drummer I ran sound for even the kick drum was the only one being mic'd. So it really depends on the player.
Guitar volume is all about the presence factor in the guitar tone. If we were say a straight thrash band, I could have a 100 Watt Cab and be fine in any mid-sized room without a microphone. But since the guitar tone I go for is more of a doomy, gothic, low-end driven sound that cuts out a LOT of midrange, even with my 400W half stack cab, it still helps to have an extra boost because our drummer is on the louder side - because, as a flip side to the rule you mentioned, when a hard hitting drummer plays a heavy beat, he can't "turn down" either.
so, not to be a dick but, your whole large first paragraph there was to..... agree with me? I'm pretty sure i stated that you have to whale on the drums, which is up to the drummer. But by all means, make the same point i did, and make it sound like you're adding something.
I was trying to show the difference I had on the guitar point but that I agreed with you on the drums. And also that while the drummer's choice is a variable, the choice of drummer is also - if that makes any sense - although maybe that could have been taken from what you said in the first place - I don't know. Just shooting the shit.
Shadow - Casey definitely hits hard enough for his snare and toms to cut through. Reverb on the kick may sound dildoes but if it's just the two of you then I may actually be able to push some guitar through the PA(although if you set up evenly with him on the stage, and just angle the cab slightly towards him so he can hear it as well, you should be able to produce enough volume where mic'ing the cab won't be necessary. I could also mic the cab, but only run it through a monitor for him.)
For those bands who have not played here... park in the back
if you cant figure it out come find me inside (wearing a "Designated Drinker" shirt) and i'll show ya where it is.
post by scmfck at Apr 24,2010 1:57pm
wren isn't going....fuck this....shows cancelled.
post by Sacreligion at Apr 24,2010 2:11pm edited Apr 24,2010 2:12pm
Directions to the back loading area:
If you are on James St. with London Billiards on your left, continue past until the first street on the left(before the bridge; Genessee St.), take another left in the gap in the chain link fence and continue straight until you pass the vans. Once you get past them I would imagine you'll see cars with stickers everywhere.
Just listened to a few quick mixes from last night.......
Alex - Take the blankets out of your kick drum. your kicks sound like pillows.
All the chaos and low end in scaphisms set makes the recording sound a bit rough. with some proper mixing it will sound decent. way better than your live demo thats out now.
Useful idiot sounds like a fucking tool cd. ok so maybe the guitar is a little thin here and there but no big deal. jims drums sound SOOOOO good. i decided im borrowing them when its time to record. ha.
H#9 - again the drums sound killer. vox are a tiny bit rough when the singer pushes it but overall sounds great.
Suicide dream - little thin sounding with just the guitar and shadows vox are a bit low. good stuff.
Fx Ex - holy shit the line level from your tape deck was hot as hell.
FoB - bands with super boomy bass are hard to mix. sounds and levels are good. just gotta clean up the muddieness in the eq. matts' vox + hall reverb in a can + natural room reverb = satan
Forced asphyxiation - sorry i didnt get a chance to mike alex's set. pa issue.
haha yea, i just started trying out the blankets, not sure how i feel about them, did a recording with slag a bit ago and he put them in for the recording, i liked how it sounded so i tried it out for a few shows, very different feel to it tho
Thanks for this awesome Saturday nite that I haven't had off of work for a while now! Bands were great esp useful idiot. Highly enjoyed that shit jim. Shit was to the T, and lower case j.
No worry's Josh.
Smoke weed.
post by Sacreligion at Apr 25,2010 2:51pm edited Apr 25,2010 2:52pm
how did the forced set come out with out all the mics? did the bass drum sound really bad or just quiet cuz of the blankets?
The snare and tom mics were just for the recording. The kick wasn't necessarily quieter but didn't have the snap that was helping it cut through for the other bands. It was all good though.
This show was an epic drumfest. Cassette Tape, Alex, Casey, Brian, Jim, Alex, Matt...Epic.
how did the forced set come out with out all the mics? did the bass drum sound really bad or just quiet cuz of the blankets?
The snare and tom mics were just for the recording. The kick wasn't necessarily quieter but didn't have the snap that was helping it cut through for the other bands. It was all good though.
This show was an epic drumfest. Cassette Tape, Alex, Casey, Brian, Jim, Alex, Matt...Epic.
yea i figured that, was just curious how the recording came out with out the drums mics on it, was there a mic recording the room?
show was lacking female face-breaking... maybe next time.
Funny you should say that, because my wife came REALLY close to knocking out this chick who kept hitting on me and moshing into me during you guys' set.
Last night was such a great time, just the right vibe.
this kicked ass, Tom deserves a round of applause for planning this so well. even with a really late start it still went without a hitch. the sound was killer, especially for Useful Idiot. that was probably the best i've heard them sound, they nailed it. the bass tone cut through so well. Faces of Bayon is bowel-disruptingly heavy. sucks for anyone who got stuck at the shitshow Metalfest, this was down the street and infinitely better.
show was lacking female face-breaking... maybe next time.
Funny you should say that, because my wife came REALLY close to knocking out this chick who kept hitting on me and moshing into me during you guys' set.
Last night was such a great time, just the right vibe.
this show was awesome. Me AND all of Useful Idiot had a wonderful time, we really did.
Tom + crew:
you guys really put on a good show. Obviously we would want to do it again whenever we can.
That was the best i'd heard scaphism sound, Hard #9 was definitely similar to the black crows, not only in that catchy groovy way, but also in that "they had tons of hot-ass in the crowd" way. Josh is the man for recording, i know that was a pain in the ass, but he stayed on top of it without holding up the show as far as i could tell.
TOM - I did NOT leave my bag there, it was in Jimmy's car... and i'll talk to Aaron this morning about his card.
lastly - you guys are all real nice for saying the nice words. I frieking LOVE Tool, and have for almost 20years. I've seen them 25 times, and Danney Carey is the reason i started playing drums, so i know better than most how disappointing most Tool tribute bands are... and it feels great to hear that we didn't let anyone down.
I saw Tool live at Ozzfest '98, and your drumming was AT LEAST as good if not better, a real highlight of the night. Personally, I'm not as big a fan of their albums as many others because it's very minimalist on the guitar front, and certain songs just got way too much radio play for my taste, but Tool's drum parts really grab you when played live in the way they lead and shape the song, and you nailed them to a tee.
Thanks to Tom for putting on such a great show, to Tony for singing, to Mike for doing sound, to Josh for recording everything, and to all of the bands.
A special thanks also goes out to marijuana, without whom this show would not have been possible.
show was lacking female face-breaking... maybe next time.
Funny you should say that, because my wife came REALLY close to knocking out this chick who kept hitting on me and moshing into me during you guys' set.
Last night was such a great time, just the right vibe.
What a cock block!
I KNOW, right?!
That poor drunk girl in the mosh pit was just trying to follow Tony's directions and rape somebody - and I had to let her down.
I saw Tool live at Ozzfest '98, and your drumming was AT LEAST as good if not better, a real highlight of the night. Personally, I'm not as big a fan of their albums as many others because it's very minimalist on the guitar front, and certain songs just got way too much radio play for my taste, but Tool's drum parts really grab you when played live in the way they lead and shape the song, and you nailed them to a tee.
Thanks to Tom for putting on such a great show, to Tony for singing, to Mike for doing sound, to Josh for recording everything, and to all of the bands.
A special thanks also goes out to marijuana, without whom this show would not have been possible.
I was at that same show. It was incredible. They were still touring for Eanima at that point. (same album we played.)
REALLY nice for you to say, but i was definitely not better than him live. I think I was pretty close on all the parts, and that's good enough.
okay, here are links to the pics I did at this show. download and enjoy. Sorry there aren't more of Useful Idiot, I was just enjoying the set so much I wanted to rock out and not take pictures :o)
also sorry to cut out the drum jam... it was either drop it or cut into band's set times. :( Bryan still wants to do it though if we can set it up at another show possibly.
okay, here are links to the pics I did at this show. download and enjoy. Sorry there aren't more of Useful Idiot, I was just enjoying the set so much I wanted to rock out and not take pictures :o)
I was at that same show. It was incredible. They were still touring for Eanima at that point. (same album we played.)
REALLY nice for you to say, but i was definitely not better than him live. I think I was pretty close on all the parts, and that's good enough.
I was in the lawn for that show, so maybe part of it was being up closer during you guys' set and feeling the natural vibrations of the drums making the parts stand out more; I personally enjoyed watching you guys more. Plus, at the '98 tour, Tool was in between incredible sets by Megadeth and Ozzy; given the comparable lack of melody and harmony with those two, it was hard to sound anything beyond "good" in that slot. Of course, that's a guitarist talking here, I can understand a drummer finding Tool live more interesting than Ozzy live.
yes! I enjoyed meeting you and claudia. you guys are awesome! thanks to everyone who smoked me up at the show, I appreciated it. Next time I'll be sure to bring enough to reciprocate.
thanks to Suicide Dream for giving me the opportunity to sing Type O Negative. i've only done it once or twice before, but it was death versions of the songs. that was the first time i've ever actually sang them. from what i could tell We Hate Everyone came out great.
I was at that same show. It was incredible. They were still touring for Eanima at that point. (same album we played.)
REALLY nice for you to say, but i was definitely not better than him live. I think I was pretty close on all the parts, and that's good enough.
I was in the lawn for that show, so maybe part of it was being up closer during you guys' set and feeling the natural vibrations of the drums making the parts stand out more; I personally enjoyed watching you guys more. Plus, at the '98 tour, Tool was in between incredible sets by Megadeth and Ozzy; given the comparable lack of melody and harmony with those two, it was hard to sound anything beyond "good" in that slot. Of course, that's a guitarist talking here, I can understand a drummer finding Tool live more interesting than Ozzy live.
I like picture 19 the best for our pics, it really captures something. I generally hate most photos of myself but that one is of the few live ones of me that I can tolerate, nice work. Can we add any of these to our official website with a credit to you?
sure, as always, any of my pics can be used for myspace, facebook, website whatever. credit to me is appreciated, but whatever. I loved the ones of your drummer, lighting just came out really well over by that side of the stage.
I'm trying to get my feet wet with promo shots as well. I love doing live, but I have so much more control with promo type stuff, which I like. My recent promo work can be seen on the Your Pain is Endearing myspace page. I did all the photos for it. If you're ever interested let me know Shadow!
I'm trying to get my feet wet with promo shots as well. I love doing live, but I have so much more control with promo type stuff, which I like. My recent promo work can be seen on the Your Pain is Endearing myspace page. I did all the photos for it. If you're ever interested let me know Shadow!
webwasher says i can't look at this.
post by Slag NLI at Apr 26,2010 11:32am
Gents, please let me know the next time comes around where I can play a show. I need some motivation to finish the work I've started and set-up my live rig. Hope the show went well.
the bass tone during Useful Idiot's set was SOOOO FUCKING GOOD. god damn that was definitely one awesome set from you guys man. everything sounded spot on, just like the album in my opinion
Josh, do you happen to have rough mixes of any else from us posted? I'm curious about Life Is Killing Me, I couldn't hear too well during the second half of the set and never got to rehearse any of this with Casey beforehand at practice so I have no idea how my vocals turned out, kind of curious about it. (Perhaps morbidly.)
kinda sucks that we used a shitty house mic on the acoustic guitar instead of an sm57. stupid lack of stands.
post by neverpurified nli at Apr 26,2010 6:21pm
Josh, per our conversation at the show, I would still love to get the rough tracks from you if at all possible. If we can figure something out I can bring my external hard drive to get the files.
shadow - only the things i posted links to are up online. not to sound like a dick but i dont think you want me to post life is killing me online....
neverpurified - i assume you are the useful idiot bassist. i was 9 or 10 beers deep and pretty drunk at one some point between hard no. 9 and scaphism. did i ever get your name or contact info?
Well, i'm not realy getting a good idea, cause my work puters' speakers suck. But so far i can hear almost everything. I would say the drums are the most quiet, but that could be these speakers. I definitely can't hear the bass drum. The bass/guitars/vocs are all loud and proud, and all sound clear and even. Which is impressive. I know you obviously don't want to spend the time mixing, but Kyle (our bass player) will, and i'm really looking foward to hearing it. (and to hearing this on good speakers.) It sounds like you got some good clean sounds. You haven't done anything with any other songs have you? You have the rest of the set and just only did a rough mix of this one, right? You da man dog, i mean that.
yeah i only picked one song from each band to do a rough mix to. Usually the song with the least "noticeable fuckups"(a weird popping thing happens twice in 2 of your songs, lots of feedback in others etc.). I mixed it on a pair of headphones quick. plus the monitors here have a nice bass response + no mastering would explain the lack of kick.
When I have access to a better computer I might mix one song from every band for reals to use for portfolio type stuff.
yeah i only picked one song from each band to do a rough mix to. Usually the song with the least "noticeable fuckups"(a weird popping thing happens twice in 2 of your songs, lots of feedback in others etc.). I mixed it on a pair of headphones quick. plus the monitors here have a nice bass response + no mastering would explain the lack of kick.
When I have access to a better computer I might mix one song from every band for reals to use for portfolio type stuff.
Aside from the tremendously hot drums, did the sound come out ok for FxEx?
yeah i only picked one song from each band to do a rough mix to. Usually the song with the least "noticeable fuckups"(a weird popping thing happens twice in 2 of your songs, lots of feedback in others etc.). I mixed it on a pair of headphones quick. plus the monitors here have a nice bass response + no mastering would explain the lack of kick.
When I have access to a better computer I might mix one song from every band for reals to use for portfolio type stuff.
sounds fucking awesome! i see what you mean about the bass drum with the blankets tho, i pulled em out haha, i know its a super rough mix tho, will sound better once its turned up
