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returntothepit >> discuss >> So it looks like I'm gonna go to school for vidja gaem design. by DestroyYouAlot on Nov 24,2009 10:05am
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toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Nov 24,2009 10:05am
Is this awesome? (Y/N)




toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Nov 24,2009 10:07am
Where you goin, yo?



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Nov 24,2009 10:11am
Y!

I used to make video games with RPG Maker back in the late 90's early 00's. Shit ruled. You should get RPG Maker VX, and post some some forums. There are some amazing people out there. Also, they just released Unreal Engine 2 or 3 or something and that could be cool to fuck around with too.



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Nov 24,2009 10:12am
Also, what school? An art school or something like WPI? I know they had some sort of video game program.



toggletoggle post by aril at Nov 24,2009 10:13am
Good luck. Very demanding market and not many jobs for that right now. I applied to various companies and only heard back from one. The best one in boston right now ia curt schillings company. It's a shame blizzard is in ca, an iD is in tx.



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Nov 24,2009 10:14am
I'm pretty sure there's a Bioware something or other not far from here. I think. There's Harmonix too but music games have run their course, imo.



toggletoggle post by aril at Nov 24,2009 10:15am
I iss the days of writing music
for an independent gaming company. I'm eventually going to apply to companies once my portfolio is a little better



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toggletoggle post by aril at Nov 24,2009 10:18am
Yea, I know a kid that helped design maps for one of the lotr games. There's also a company around here licensed by microsoft that just released a history type hack and slash. The name of the game escapes me.
Basically most companies are in CA or TX



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Nov 24,2009 10:21am
Yeah. Though I'm doing electrical engineering for a major and computer engineering for a minor, I want to find a way to either weasel myself into the guitar/bass amp industry or the gaming industry. Either become an amp designer or a video game programmer/music writer. Or all three!
I actually just decided today to brush up on my Ruby script and get back to video game making. Like 10 minutes before this post was made. I'm doing some research right now!



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Nov 24,2009 10:23am
Looking at New England Tech; they have an 18 month Associate program. You guys will be playing a lot of completely redonkulous /r/-related minigames in the next year or so. LOL



toggletoggle post by aril at Nov 24,2009 10:24am
Video game music ftw. A few of my old tracking pals wrote music for gameboy advance games.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Nov 24,2009 10:28am
Yeah, it is. I originally studied CS to do just that.... but the market is too competitive, and I realized that even though the prospect of working with modern game engines is the ultimate puzzle, I couldn't bring myself to sit in an office most of the time, no matter what I was doing (though I do that now...)

There are 2 things you need - a degree from a real university (not DeVry, UofPhoenix, FullSail, etc...) and a bitchin portfolio. You have what it takes to make a killer RPG, or anything else for that matter. I've been wanting to mod the Source engine for years, I would jump at the opportunity to work on a real project if you want to get something started.



toggletoggle post by aril at Nov 24,2009 10:30am
I'm down too. For music and or design. I've got 100s of video game songs that I wouldn't dare post here.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Nov 24,2009 10:31am
I have some thoughts. Small-unit-based dungeon tactical roguelike goodness.



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Nov 24,2009 10:31am
aril, if i get serious about making rpg's again. I might commission some songs from you...though I would be making the majority myself!



toggletoggle post by aril at Nov 24,2009 10:34am
Sure. But let's hear your stuff. Garage band, fruity loops, and reason don't count!



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Nov 24,2009 10:36am
There's one thing that's hard to come by when working on games - good 2d/3d artists.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Nov 24,2009 10:36am
Good, make an original Dawn of the Dead game already, FACK!



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Nov 24,2009 10:39am
Steve - just remember before you make the jump -




toggletoggle post by aril at Nov 24,2009 10:40am
arktouros said[orig][quote]
There's one thing that's hard to come by when working on games - good 2d/3d artists.


QFT.

I personally would love to see a good side scrolling (BRING IT BACK) rpg, with good graphics. Kind of like wonderboy games for sega but better.



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toggletoggle post by Martins   at Nov 24,2009 10:48am
Dude, I was a fucking sick pixel artist years back. Also, aril, I don't use garage band, fruity loops, or reason. I write my midis in noteworthy composer or guitar pro. It's kind of cheating but I don't make it all playable on guitar either. Guitar Pro is actually way harder than Noteworthy Composer for certain things. I know you hate standard notation though.



toggletoggle post by aril at Nov 24,2009 10:49am
Wha? No i don't. I just disagree with it.



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toggletoggle post by Martins   at Nov 24,2009 10:52am
Oh well. I just use Guitar Pro because it's the best midi program I've found for Mac. Thought I suppose I haven't searched very hard. I'm going to be dual booting 7 anyway so that I can mess with RPG Maker VX so I'll probably snag Noteworthy Composer and I'd like to give whatever program you're using to sequence a try, if it works.



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toggletoggle post by aril at Nov 24,2009 11:04am
I think those midi programs are too time consuming for what you get out of it but that's just me I guess.



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Nov 24,2009 11:06am
Time consuming? You just write out what you want to hear. It's no more time consuming that writing music is time consuming... which it can be. Thought I suppose I don't know how fast working with your tracking program is.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Nov 24,2009 11:07am
SUPER CHIODOS HUNT XL



toggletoggle post by aril at Nov 24,2009 11:10am
It's much faster when you understand the way tracking functions. It's basically a 2 year learning curve, unless you read the Zen of Tracking.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Nov 24,2009 11:17am
Nice! Good luck, fucker.



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Nov 24,2009 11:19am
Is that an actual book?



toggletoggle post by aril at Nov 24,2009 11:25am
Its online.



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Nov 24,2009 11:34am
My girlyfriend is toying with the idea of doing some video gameage school. She wants to totally change course from fine art / painting and look into 2d/3d character design. Haven't really done any research on it yet though as far as what's required, what jobs are like, what the demand is like etc.



toggletoggle post by narkybark   at Nov 24,2009 11:39am
There's no demand because there's a lot of supply, pay sucks, requirements kinda blow. I was pursuing this for years before I got fed up with it, and now I can't survive on what I would make.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Nov 24,2009 11:39am
She totally should!!! DO IT MEL!!



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Nov 24,2009 11:43am
narkybark said[orig][quote]
There's no demand because there's a lot of supply, pay sucks, requirements kinda blow. I was pursuing this for years before I got fed up with it, and now I can't survive on what I would make.


I'm pretty much banking on my creativity to be able to make myself marketable - i.e., having kickass pet projects to get my foot in the door somewhere. Worst that happens is I at least have a degree and get some layout/design/3d modelling etc. courses that I can apply elsewhere.



toggletoggle post by aril at Nov 24,2009 11:43am
it's a very challenging market up here. move to CA and your chances increase.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Nov 24,2009 11:46am
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
narkybark said[orig][quote]
There's no demand because there's a lot of supply, pay sucks, requirements kinda blow. I was pursuing this for years before I got fed up with it, and now I can't survive on what I would make.


I'm pretty much banking on my creativity to be able to make myself marketable - i.e., having kickass pet projects to get my foot in the door somewhere. Worst that happens is I at least have a degree and get some layout/design/3d modelling etc. courses that I can apply elsewhere.


Don't let people talk you out of it because of demand. It's always worth doing what you love. I'll probably be broke for life but I love being a photographer and can't imagine doing anything else.

You just gotta work hard and stand out. This message brought to you by my mothering side.



toggletoggle post by SLAG W/ INTERVENTION at Nov 24,2009 11:54am
Steve, let me do the creepy game music! I've always wanted to score a game.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Nov 24,2009 11:56am
aril said[orig][quote]
it's a very challenging market up here. move to CA and your chances increase.


NO U

pam said[orig][quote]
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
narkybark said[orig][quote]
There's no demand because there's a lot of supply, pay sucks, requirements kinda blow. I was pursuing this for years before I got fed up with it, and now I can't survive on what I would make.


I'm pretty much banking on my creativity to be able to make myself marketable - i.e., having kickass pet projects to get my foot in the door somewhere. Worst that happens is I at least have a degree and get some layout/design/3d modelling etc. courses that I can apply elsewhere.


Don't let people talk you out of it because of demand. It's always worth doing what you love. I'll probably be broke for life but I love being a photographer and can't imagine doing anything else.

You just gotta work hard and stand out. This message brought to you by my mothering side.


Yeah, I'm pretty set on the idea now. For whatever reason my girl's completely behind it, so that helps. Now I just need a weed dealer that has a lion.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Nov 24,2009 12:04pm
narkybark said[orig][quote]
There's no demand because there's a lot of supply, pay sucks, requirements kinda blow. I was pursuing this for years before I got fed up with it, and now I can't survive on what I would make.


Narky, you and I can collaborate on COMPLETELY ABSURD SLAP BASS HERO. The controller has 678 buttons and knobs and levers and it's all Victor Wooten songs.



toggletoggle post by C.Dead at Nov 24,2009 12:11pm
There is a Rockstar office in Andover actually.

Also, that Karnov DDR had me in tears. Loved that guy/game.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Nov 24,2009 12:22pm
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
SUPER CHIODOS HUNT XL


Sorry Mortiis, the Chiodo is in another castle.



toggletoggle post by aril at Nov 24,2009 12:35pm
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
narkybark said[orig][quote]
There's no demand because there's a lot of supply, pay sucks, requirements kinda blow. I was pursuing this for years before I got fed up with it, and now I can't survive on what I would make.


Narky, you and I can collaborate on COMPLETELY ABSURD SLAP BASS HERO. The controller has 678 buttons and knobs and levers and it's all Victor Wooten songs.


Wooten is a tad overrated on slap imo!



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Nov 24,2009 1:40pm
LOL



toggletoggle post by aril at Nov 24,2009 1:47pm
casiopea's bass players > victor ego. Samething with bela fleck. Dude can go suck on a banjodick.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Nov 24,2009 1:50pm
Codzo 3D.

"You have joined a white power band. GAME OVER."



toggletoggle post by aril at Nov 24,2009 1:53pm
haha



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Nov 24,2009 1:56pm
aril said[orig][quote]
casiopea's bass players > victor ego. Samething with bela fleck. Dude can go suck on a banjodick.


ego or not wooten is pretty damn good.



toggletoggle post by aril at Nov 24,2009 2:02pm
i'm messing around. Of course he's good. The best? nope.



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Nov 24,2009 3:45pm
I've wanted to compose soundtracks for VGs for a long time now but have no idea how to get into the field. My portfolio consists of bands that people on RTTP hate.



toggletoggle post by aril at Nov 24,2009 4:18pm
ive already made a chiptune bova song if anyone wants to use it.



toggletoggle post by narkybark   at Nov 24,2009 4:34pm
Xtreme 8-Bit Bova



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Nov 25,2009 12:49pm
Bova Hero - you plug in the controller and then the animated Bova just laughs at you and shreds.



toggletoggle post by narkybark   at Nov 25,2009 1:00pm
I think we need to design that.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Nov 25,2009 1:35pm
Fuck you guys. There's already a Bova video game.



Scottie Pippen just sits on the bench and renegotiates his contract while Bova tomahawk dunks on the entire eastern conference.



toggletoggle post by narkybark   at Nov 25,2009 1:39pm
Does he bust out a hot lick after every dunk?



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Nov 25,2009 1:42pm
HE'S ON FIRE



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 26,2010 3:12pm
It's official, registered, financial shit set in stone, books bought, class on Monday. FUCKING SURREAL. Can't wait for my classes on teamkilling fagorts and pwning n00bs.



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Mar 26,2010 3:13pm
nice, very nice. good luck man.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Mar 26,2010 3:18pm
Dark Wor: Battle of Justice

coming soon to stores near you!



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Mar 26,2010 3:19pm
xmikex said[orig][quote]
Fuck you guys. There's already a Bova video game.



Scottie Pippen just sits on the bench and renegotiates his contract while Bova tomahawk dunks on the entire eastern conference.



RAZZLE DAZZLE



toggletoggle post by narkybark   at Mar 26,2010 3:20pm
BOOM SHAKA-LAKA



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Mar 26,2010 3:25pm
UGLY SHOT



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 26,2010 4:54pm
Psyched - the Intro to Game Design book references Baldur's Gate like every 3 pages. (Esp. as an example of the "open-ended RPG" as opposed to the "gay weaboo bullshit railgrinder".) (Not the actual terms used.)



toggletoggle post by bradness so totally at work at Mar 26,2010 5:32pm
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
It's official, registered, financial shit set in stone, books bought, class on Monday. FUCKING SURREAL. Can't wait for my classes on teamkilling fagorts and pwning n00bs.


fucking killer dude. I'm in my last phase at school, doing Linux. After that it's 20 weeks and I'll have an Associates Degree in Applied Science. Also i need to get the A+ at least. Good Luck!



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Mar 26,2010 7:30pm
DYA posted this my birthday. He owes me pot brownies.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 27,2010 1:52am
Shit, I owe me pot brownies; if I can figure it out, I'll share.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 29,2010 2:14pm
1/2way thru 1st day. There's totally a guy here wearing a Warhammer shirt. Looks like a total weenis. No hot Azn girls, I've been lied to. Fucking with MS Visual Studio nao.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Mar 29,2010 2:17pm
wheres my GTA: Worcester?!



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Mar 29,2010 2:24pm
Hello world!
Ask him if he likes Bolt Thrower.



toggletoggle post by DYA is @ NET at Mar 29,2010 2:44pm
LOL - just totally finished Hello World v2.0.



toggletoggle post by Randy_Marsh at Mar 29,2010 2:53pm
Champlain College has a very good well known video game design program.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Mar 29,2010 3:01pm
KLIK n PLAY OR GTFO

/THREAD



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Mar 29,2010 3:07pm
Congrats, Steve! Very happy for you. Best of luck!



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Mar 29,2010 4:07pm
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]


way way funnier than it should be



toggletoggle post by ark at Mar 30,2010 10:24am



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 30,2010 10:27am edited Mar 30,2010 10:27am
Leonard Part 6



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Mar 30,2010 10:28am
Klik N Play. Please tell me you remember that. The demo came with sim city 2000.



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Mar 30,2010 11:38am
ark said[orig][quote]


hahahaha



toggletoggle post by C.DeAd at Mar 30,2010 1:09pm



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 11,2010 12:37am edited Apr 11,2010 12:38am
So I've taken exactly one (1) Photoshoop class. LOL





toggletoggle post by i_am_not_me   at Apr 11,2010 12:53am
C.Dead said[orig][quote]
There is a Rockstar office in Andover actually.

Also, that Karnov DDR had me in tears. Loved that guy/game.


ITT: Much-needed Karnov love

Imma go play it now. (The actual game, sadly not Dance Dance Karnov)



toggletoggle post by IllinoisEnemaBradness at Apr 11,2010 1:17am
Alex: Where is your monkey?
Dante: He's upstairs putting his nun-chucks away.



toggletoggle post by sigh at Apr 12,2010 9:35am
Turbine Inc is also located in MA somewhere. I forget which town. They did the LOTR online game. Old college roomate works for them doing level design.

Good luck. Like everyone else has said, it's a very competitive industry and doesn't really compensate that well unless you are the CEO or John Carmack.

Be prepared to do something completely different from what you have in your head that you are going to be doing...for long hours...for shit pay. It's like any other software development project except the content you deal with is more interesting to you.

Not trying to talk you out of it, just sayin.



toggletoggle post by sigh at Apr 12,2010 9:43am
Steve what area are you planning to focus on? 3d Rendering/animation? Texture artist? programming side of things?



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Apr 12,2010 9:56am
Storyboarding?



toggletoggle post by sigh at Apr 12,2010 10:00am
menstrual_sweatpants_disco said[orig][quote]
My girlyfriend is toying with the idea of doing some video gameage school. She wants to totally change course from fine art / painting and look into 2d/3d character design. Haven't really done any research on it yet though as far as what's required, what jobs are like, what the demand is like etc.


Can't say exactly cause I've never pursued it myself but these skills also apply to the film/tv industry since almost everything is filmed on a green screen these days an painted in later. I'm hoping those movie studios open up on the south shore. Last I heard there were financing issues.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Apr 12,2010 10:42am
Looks like those studios may fall through. The only way it can happen is if they have the financial backing.
The company they got the loans from didn't have the money they said.
Part of me wants those studios to open up... I'll definitely be hanging around there after I blow thousands in the middleboro casino.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Apr 12,2010 10:54am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Scrapbooking?



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 12,2010 12:41pm
sigh said[orig][quote]
Steve what area are you planning to focus on? 3d Rendering/animation? Texture artist? programming side of things?



Programming / slash / design, hopefully - planning on pimping my own pet projects more than trying to work my way through the ranks, but we'll see how it goes. I've got the game design chops from pen-and-paper shit over the years, it's just picking up a programming language newer than Basic (what I learned on).



toggletoggle post by sigh at Apr 12,2010 4:28pm
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/aa937791.aspx

or you could go the openGL route and be 1337



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 12,2010 5:11pm
Tx d00d



toggletoggle post by narkybark   at Apr 12,2010 5:30pm
I gave up pursuing this field years ago. I think I've had interviews with almost every MA company, several of which don't exist anymore.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Apr 12,2010 5:35pm
like I said, klik n play or get the fuck out



toggletoggle post by blessed offal at Apr 12,2010 5:36pm
xmikex said[orig][quote]
Fuck you guys. There's already a Bova video game.



Scottie Pippen just sits on the bench and renegotiates his contract while Bova tomahawk dunks on the entire eastern conference.


this is my favorite post of all time.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 27,2010 1:54pm



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Apr 27,2010 2:19pm
totally checking that out later tonight



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